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    Taking a poll - new vs. old Scores and Matchups Page format

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    Stew Baker
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2024 - 6:11 PM ET #1

    As many of you must have observed, Covers changed the format for the NBA Scores and Matchups page around mid-May (also WNBA and NCAAB; they changed NFL and NCAAF as well a little later on). You can see the new (current) format by clicking on the Scores and Matchups link on the NBA home page. If your memory need a refresher, the old format looks similar to the format still being used for MLB Scores and Matchups.

    There are several differences between the new and old Scores and Matchups formats. I strongly object to the changes. I reached out to the Covers general feedback and inquiries dept. about this on May 22. I don't know if this was in response to my and possibly other's feedback, or there was some other prompt, but after a few days they did change back to the old format. Then, though, after a few more days, they reverted right back to the new format! (which is what you see now)

    I'm taking a poll. Which of the NBA Scores and Matchups formats do you prefer, the new or the old?

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    As many of you must have observed, Covers changed the format for the NBA Scores and Matchups page around mid-May (also WNBA and NCAAB; they changed NFL and NCAAF as well a little later on). You can see the new (current) format by clicking on the Scores and Matchups link on the NBA home page. If your memory need a refresher, the old format looks similar to the format still being used for MLB Scores and Matchups.

    There are several differences between the new and old Scores and Matchups formats. I strongly object to the changes. I reached out to the Covers general feedback and inquiries dept. about this on May 22. I don't know if this was in response to my and possibly other's feedback, or there was some other prompt, but after a few days they did change back to the old format. Then, though, after a few more days, they reverted right back to the new format! (which is what you see now)

    I'm taking a poll. Which of the NBA Scores and Matchups formats do you prefer, the new or the old?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2024 - 10:20 PM ET #2

    New format is horrible. Can't even find the ATS stats I'm looking for. Old format was simple and perfect. I use other websites for matchups nowadays. I only come to Covers for the forum.

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    New format is horrible. Can't even find the ATS stats I'm looking for. Old format was simple and perfect. I use other websites for matchups nowadays. I only come to Covers for the forum.

     
    Stew Baker
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2024 - 10:33 PM ET #3

    @javin

    I'll put this down as a vote for the "Old"!

    Guys, you can just reply with a "New" or an "Old" if you want!

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    @javin

    I'll put this down as a vote for the "Old"!

    Guys, you can just reply with a "New" or an "Old" if you want!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2024 - 9:22 AM ET #4

    Yeah, I mentioned it in the covers feedback thing too in regards to baseball. They used to have full pitching game logs so I could see the last 10 or more for the starting pitcher. 

     

    It would also have the last 10 for each team without having to click on a tab, which doesn't work half the time. Now it defaults to the last 10 in the matchup, and I have to click on each team to find the last 10 game results.

    This wasn't a few months ago though, it was last season. They did change it back for a little bit, but they stuck with it and it's been like this for a year now. So it's not going back.

     

     

    Even though I'm positive that 75% of old timers and people that use that site like the old format, some people don't mind, and the don't minding is the important part.

     

    With the advent of twitter, facebook groups, discord chats, reddit, old school places like covers are bleeding traffic. This used to be THEEE web site and forum to use for betting. Now all these young kids want to do is sucker bets like same game parlays that pay a bunch so they can post and brag about them and post them on social media for attention. 

    Like if you said "Second Half Celtics -5" some people wouldn't even know what you're talking about, because second half is buried multiple tabs down. The apps everyone uses just has a live line, only the offshores that old school people use still use 2nd half lines. A lot of people here still post "second half," so they are old school people.

     

    TLDR. Covers changed the format to look more modern. All these "apps" have like bolder, prettier touchscreen boxes and stuff. They're trying to attract back a younger audience because traffic is not the way it used to be 15-20 years ago. 

     

    If i opened up the forum one day and all I saw was "Tatum Over 25, Brown Under 22, Porzingis under 15, White over 12" type parlays, I'd probably never come back though. 

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    Yeah, I mentioned it in the covers feedback thing too in regards to baseball. They used to have full pitching game logs so I could see the last 10 or more for the starting pitcher. 

     

    It would also have the last 10 for each team without having to click on a tab, which doesn't work half the time. Now it defaults to the last 10 in the matchup, and I have to click on each team to find the last 10 game results.

    This wasn't a few months ago though, it was last season. They did change it back for a little bit, but they stuck with it and it's been like this for a year now. So it's not going back.

     

     

    Even though I'm positive that 75% of old timers and people that use that site like the old format, some people don't mind, and the don't minding is the important part.

     

    With the advent of twitter, facebook groups, discord chats, reddit, old school places like covers are bleeding traffic. This used to be THEEE web site and forum to use for betting. Now all these young kids want to do is sucker bets like same game parlays that pay a bunch so they can post and brag about them and post them on social media for attention. 

    Like if you said "Second Half Celtics -5" some people wouldn't even know what you're talking about, because second half is buried multiple tabs down. The apps everyone uses just has a live line, only the offshores that old school people use still use 2nd half lines. A lot of people here still post "second half," so they are old school people.

     

    TLDR. Covers changed the format to look more modern. All these "apps" have like bolder, prettier touchscreen boxes and stuff. They're trying to attract back a younger audience because traffic is not the way it used to be 15-20 years ago. 

     

    If i opened up the forum one day and all I saw was "Tatum Over 25, Brown Under 22, Porzingis under 15, White over 12" type parlays, I'd probably never come back though. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2024 - 12:40 PM ET #5

    Old.

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    Old.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2024 - 12:41 PM ET #6

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    Great commentary on a sad situation. All of your comments are in favor of the older type formats, so I'm putting you down for the "Old".

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    @slamspurs

    Great commentary on a sad situation. All of your comments are in favor of the older type formats, so I'm putting you down for the "Old".

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #7

    Old....tracks in-game Totals too...

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    Old....tracks in-game Totals too...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2024 - 6:07 PM ET #8

    So far, it's 5 (including myself) for the Old, and 0 for the new. Early voting in favor of the old. Keep chiming in, and keep the votes coming!

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    So far, it's 5 (including myself) for the Old, and 0 for the new. Early voting in favor of the old. Keep chiming in, and keep the votes coming!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2024 - 7:22 PM ET #9

    Zero improvemment on new format.paint_helpan_burn_money

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    Zero improvemment on new format.paint_helpan_burn_money

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 12:34 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Baker:

    So far, it's 5 (including myself) for the Old, and 0 for the new. Early voting in favor of the old. Keep chiming in, and keep the votes coming!

     

    And it won't get higher than 5! Why? Because the season is over! Shoulda started the poll in the baseball forum.

     

    But yeah, they ain't changing it back. I've gotten used to it at this point. It just makes it harder for me to pick totals now since they only do last 5 games for the starting pitchers. Then I have to google the game logs separately. But I haven't been playing totals lately. They're such a crapshoot with all these imploding bullpens. 

    If I want to check back further than the last 10 it's an extra click by clicking on the team, but it can be done. 

     

    This is my 20th year on covers. My first big bet was when Belichick intentionally took a safety on MNF. They were down 1, and instead of punting from their 1 yard line, and allowing them to ice the game with 1 first down, he took the safety, did the free kick, and won the game. 

     

    Anyways, I get it covers. You don't give a crap about us vets. You wanna attract the next generation of degens. And believe me, these apps are the most addicting things I've ever used. And they attract all these kids with these boosted or risk free same game parlay promos. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Baker:

    So far, it's 5 (including myself) for the Old, and 0 for the new. Early voting in favor of the old. Keep chiming in, and keep the votes coming!

     

    And it won't get higher than 5! Why? Because the season is over! Shoulda started the poll in the baseball forum.

     

    But yeah, they ain't changing it back. I've gotten used to it at this point. It just makes it harder for me to pick totals now since they only do last 5 games for the starting pitchers. Then I have to google the game logs separately. But I haven't been playing totals lately. They're such a crapshoot with all these imploding bullpens. 

    If I want to check back further than the last 10 it's an extra click by clicking on the team, but it can be done. 

     

    This is my 20th year on covers. My first big bet was when Belichick intentionally took a safety on MNF. They were down 1, and instead of punting from their 1 yard line, and allowing them to ice the game with 1 first down, he took the safety, did the free kick, and won the game. 

     

    Anyways, I get it covers. You don't give a crap about us vets. You wanna attract the next generation of degens. And believe me, these apps are the most addicting things I've ever used. And they attract all these kids with these boosted or risk free same game parlay promos. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2024 - 7:12 PM ET #11

    @Addict101

     Sure sounds like you prefer the old format. I'll mark you down as a vote for the old.

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    @Addict101

     Sure sounds like you prefer the old format. I'll mark you down as a vote for the old.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2024 - 7:23 PM ET #12

    @slamspurs

    Your insight on the timing of the poll is certainly correct. I use the NBA matchups page a lot, haven't been doing baseball for ages and wasn't really thinking about MLB; that's why I started the poll in this forum. But yeah, it was really quite, quite late in the season to start this.

    I am, though, starting another poll in the MLB forum.

    Thanks for the feedback!

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    @slamspurs

    Your insight on the timing of the poll is certainly correct. I use the NBA matchups page a lot, haven't been doing baseball for ages and wasn't really thinking about MLB; that's why I started the poll in this forum. But yeah, it was really quite, quite late in the season to start this.

    I am, though, starting another poll in the MLB forum.

    Thanks for the feedback!

     
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    So there you have it! 6 votes to 0, in favor of the old. Small sample, but quite one-sided.

    Good luck to Covers, in trying to attract the younger crowd (I'm giving credence to what @slamspurs said about your mindset) with the new format, which (thus far) seems very unpopular among the old timers. Unless, of course, there is a change of heart on the part of Covers!

    Note: I have started another "new format" vs. "old format" poll in the MLB forum, titled "Taking a poll - new vs. old Covers MLB matchup page format". Feel free to visit that thread.

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    So there you have it! 6 votes to 0, in favor of the old. Small sample, but quite one-sided.

    Good luck to Covers, in trying to attract the younger crowd (I'm giving credence to what @slamspurs said about your mindset) with the new format, which (thus far) seems very unpopular among the old timers. Unless, of course, there is a change of heart on the part of Covers!

    Note: I have started another "new format" vs. "old format" poll in the MLB forum, titled "Taking a poll - new vs. old Covers MLB matchup page format". Feel free to visit that thread.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2024 - 2:45 PM ET #14

    Dear members and scoreboard users,

    We'd like to thank all of you for providing valuable feedback on the most recent updates to our basketball and football scoreboard products. We've been following these conversations very closely and sharing feedback with our product team. In response, we would like to share some immediate updates we’re making, as well as a few we have on our roadmap.

    Immediate and upcoming changes:

    -Adding Opening odds
    -Updated the interval for faster live score updates
    -Update tablet view to show 2 games side by side for more games in view

    Items on the roadmap:

    -Trending points total and team to cover
    -Easier navigation and less scrolling
    -Automatic live score updates (without requiring a page refresh)

    These updates mark a significant step in establishing the foundation for what we believe will be the best scoreboards in the market. While it has brought about considerable change, we are committed to making it a product that benefits all types of bettors.

    Once again, thank you for your support and feedback.

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    Dear members and scoreboard users,

    We'd like to thank all of you for providing valuable feedback on the most recent updates to our basketball and football scoreboard products. We've been following these conversations very closely and sharing feedback with our product team. In response, we would like to share some immediate updates we’re making, as well as a few we have on our roadmap.

    Immediate and upcoming changes:

    -Adding Opening odds
    -Updated the interval for faster live score updates
    -Update tablet view to show 2 games side by side for more games in view

    Items on the roadmap:

    -Trending points total and team to cover
    -Easier navigation and less scrolling
    -Automatic live score updates (without requiring a page refresh)

    These updates mark a significant step in establishing the foundation for what we believe will be the best scoreboards in the market. While it has brought about considerable change, we are committed to making it a product that benefits all types of bettors.

    Once again, thank you for your support and feedback.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2024 - 5:57 PM ET #15

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    Need home/road ATS splits for NBA, NCAA, WNBA, NFL & NCAAF, like before!

     

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    @ColinMac

    Need home/road ATS splits for NBA, NCAA, WNBA, NFL & NCAAF, like before!

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2024 - 1:43 PM ET #16

    New format is trash can't even favorite games to watch anymore . they took the out why? so dumb thumbs_down

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    New format is trash can't even favorite games to watch anymore . they took the out why? so dumb thumbs_down

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2024 - 2:24 PM ET #17

    Hello @newmoney, the 'My Scores' feature you're referring to was removed from the league Scores & Matchup pages in the recent updates that started in the spring. However, I'm happy to inform you that our product team is working on adding a feature that will allow you to select games to appear at the top of your league Scores & Matchups page.

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    Hello @newmoney, the 'My Scores' feature you're referring to was removed from the league Scores & Matchup pages in the recent updates that started in the spring. However, I'm happy to inform you that our product team is working on adding a feature that will allow you to select games to appear at the top of your league Scores & Matchups page.

     
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    Dear community members and NFL scoreboard users,

    Thank you for sharing your valuable feedback with us already! We truly appreciate your insights and are excited to offer you an exclusive opportunity to take that feedback even further.

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    BlackwaterOP
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 3:16 PM ET #19

    Old

    Believe
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    Old

     
    masterkush
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 5:37 PM ET #20

    Colin


    What exactly is the reason for updating to a new format?

    I’m a if it ain’t broke don’t fix it type of guy. 

    just curious?

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    Colin


    What exactly is the reason for updating to a new format?

    I’m a if it ain’t broke don’t fix it type of guy. 

    just curious?

     
    Artbdudavon3
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2024 - 5:17 PM ET #21

    @Stew Baker

     

     I just seen this today I was so confused like why  they take that feature away

    Btw it's ?? ?? 

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    @Stew Baker

     

     I just seen this today I was so confused like why  they take that feature away

    Btw it's ?? ?? 

     
    Artbdudavon3
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2024 - 5:18 PM ET #22

    @javin

     Is they're another sight like covers for in game sports computer predictions bra?

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    @javin

     Is they're another sight like covers for in game sports computer predictions bra?

     
     
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    OLD was much better 

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    OLD was much better 

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