I think 7 is was too many points to considering Melvin Gordon is out, Derwin James is out and the O Line for the Colts is getting overlooked because of Bosa and Ingram on the edge. I think the O Line should be good enough to where the running game gets established early with Marlon Mack who broke out last season and Brisset can show people he is ready to take on the challenge after Luck retired. I can't see TY Hilton being a difference maker because I'm assuming Casey Hayward will be guarding him but Ebron and Doyle can still tear up a defense. Colts defense is also amazing and the Chargers don't have a home field. This could be a spot where I go heavy on the Colts while everyone expects them to take a large step back but I don't see it in this matchup.
Let me know know your thoughts.
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I think 7 is was too many points to considering Melvin Gordon is out, Derwin James is out and the O Line for the Colts is getting overlooked because of Bosa and Ingram on the edge. I think the O Line should be good enough to where the running game gets established early with Marlon Mack who broke out last season and Brisset can show people he is ready to take on the challenge after Luck retired. I can't see TY Hilton being a difference maker because I'm assuming Casey Hayward will be guarding him but Ebron and Doyle can still tear up a defense. Colts defense is also amazing and the Chargers don't have a home field. This could be a spot where I go heavy on the Colts while everyone expects them to take a large step back but I don't see it in this matchup.
I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are:
1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more?
2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of.
However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games.
I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
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I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are:
1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more?
2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of.
However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games.
I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are: 1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more? 2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of. However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games. I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
You really made me reconsider Indy but I also don't see Brissett as a Tyrod Taylor 2.0.
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Quote Originally Posted by stoidi:
I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are: 1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more? 2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of. However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games. I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
You really made me reconsider Indy but I also don't see Brissett as a Tyrod Taylor 2.0.
I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are: 1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more? 2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of. However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games. I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
You really made me reconsider Indy but I also don't see Brissett as a Tyrod Taylor 2.0.
I don't like talking people out of picks. Just thought I could give you some more sides to consider. Like I said it will depend on Brissett. If he can command that offense they should cover. He got paid so maybe he won't play with such timidness. I might play the Colts 1H actually considering the Chargers will prolly be lethargic early on and Brissett and the offense have played a few games in the preseason already.
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Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBanks:
Quote Originally Posted by stoidi:
I think okung isn't playing for the Chargers OL too. The things I hate about this matchup for the Colts are: 1. Brissett hasn't shown he isn't a game manager yet. He needs to get good at getting rid of the ball faster. He has a great OL but he will lose all benefits if he holds onto the ball too long. He doesn't have an A list receiving core. Luck knew exactly when to let the ball rip on his dropbacks. Brissett in the preseason kept holding on too long and during the 2017 season when he was the starter, ask Colts fans and they will all tell you he took a lot of sacks because he was too slow to make a decision. Will he be Tyrod Taylor 2.0? A safe game manager QB that doesn't throw many INTs but will never win a game for you if you are trailing by 7 or more? 2. The Colts defense plays a relaxed zone scheme that rarely blitzes or applies much pressure. It literally is a bend but do-not-break defense as they will give up a ton of chunk yards. Now normally this could be a good thing especially if the QB they face is inexperienced or does not have the arm talent to exploit all the holes in the zones but Rivers is anything but that. This will be a game where the time of possession should easily be lopsided in the Chargers favor not because of the run game but because of the type of defense that Rivers will easily get chunk yards out of. However, the Chargers don't have a good home-field advantage. They did not play in the preseason either. They are missing a ton of starters and Bosa can get injured and sit out at any given moment in the game. The Chargers are usually slow week 1 of the season, I've noticed. Usually close games. I dunno for me it will all depend on Brissett really. If he can just hit his reads quickly and let the ball fly this game can easily go over and the Colts can cover but if he is still that same QB than goodbye. I might play this one live after the 1st qtr and if I don't like what I'm seeing from Brissett regardless of the score I might just pound the Chargers.
You really made me reconsider Indy but I also don't see Brissett as a Tyrod Taylor 2.0.
I don't like talking people out of picks. Just thought I could give you some more sides to consider. Like I said it will depend on Brissett. If he can command that offense they should cover. He got paid so maybe he won't play with such timidness. I might play the Colts 1H actually considering the Chargers will prolly be lethargic early on and Brissett and the offense have played a few games in the preseason already.
Just one man's opinion but Colts +6.5 is one of my supercontest picks. It wasn't one of my Top 3 because I do share some of stoidi's concerns on Rivers vs Indy's pass defense but some of the other matchups out-weighed that for me.
Chargers might have one of the five worst offensive lines in the league in its current state. Using profootballreference, I looked up the games Melvin Gordon has missed and over the course of his career the Chargers run the ball about 5% less than their season average when he's out. This would put them as one of the 5-6 pass heaviest teams based on last year's numbers. Maybe they still have success because the Colts don't have the greatest pass defense but I could see them struggle to sustain drives passing that much with a bad offensive line and a statue at QB.
On the other side I think the Colts will be fine, mostly because of their offensive line. Like you said the OL can somewhat neutralize the Chargers' pass rush, and I think Indy can run on LAC all day. Their run defense wasn't great last year to begin with and now Derwin James is out, Jatavis Brown is doubtful, and Denzel Perryman isn't 100% yet returning from a season-ending injury. As far as Brissett, I think he can settle in as an average quarterback in the Andy Dalton range. A little more than a game manager but isn't going to single-handedly win you games. With multiple weeks to prepare knowing Brissett would be starting, I think Reich can come up with a good game-plan against this Chargers defense.
Lastly, after years of kicking troubles the Chargers found their answer last year in Michael Badgley. Badgley injured his groin in practice yesterday and is now questionable for tomorrow's game. Maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't, but just one more thing that could tilt things Indy's way.
Chargers 24-20
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Just one man's opinion but Colts +6.5 is one of my supercontest picks. It wasn't one of my Top 3 because I do share some of stoidi's concerns on Rivers vs Indy's pass defense but some of the other matchups out-weighed that for me.
Chargers might have one of the five worst offensive lines in the league in its current state. Using profootballreference, I looked up the games Melvin Gordon has missed and over the course of his career the Chargers run the ball about 5% less than their season average when he's out. This would put them as one of the 5-6 pass heaviest teams based on last year's numbers. Maybe they still have success because the Colts don't have the greatest pass defense but I could see them struggle to sustain drives passing that much with a bad offensive line and a statue at QB.
On the other side I think the Colts will be fine, mostly because of their offensive line. Like you said the OL can somewhat neutralize the Chargers' pass rush, and I think Indy can run on LAC all day. Their run defense wasn't great last year to begin with and now Derwin James is out, Jatavis Brown is doubtful, and Denzel Perryman isn't 100% yet returning from a season-ending injury. As far as Brissett, I think he can settle in as an average quarterback in the Andy Dalton range. A little more than a game manager but isn't going to single-handedly win you games. With multiple weeks to prepare knowing Brissett would be starting, I think Reich can come up with a good game-plan against this Chargers defense.
Lastly, after years of kicking troubles the Chargers found their answer last year in Michael Badgley. Badgley injured his groin in practice yesterday and is now questionable for tomorrow's game. Maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't, but just one more thing that could tilt things Indy's way.
Brissett looked really sharp in the pre-season and looked calm in the pocket, tossing balls effortlessly down field. Don't forget he was thrown into that offence last year and not really given a chance to study the playbook due to Lucks injury. This guy is not a rookie anymore with a new 30 million dollar contact under is belt.
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Brissett looked really sharp in the pre-season and looked calm in the pocket, tossing balls effortlessly down field. Don't forget he was thrown into that offence last year and not really given a chance to study the playbook due to Lucks injury. This guy is not a rookie anymore with a new 30 million dollar contact under is belt.
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