That’s a huge line movement from Dallas -2.5 to minny now being favoured by -2.5. Can somebody explain without being a dick about my question please.
That’s a huge line movement from Dallas -2.5 to minny now being favoured by -2.5. Can somebody explain without being a dick about my question please.
That’s a huge line movement from Dallas -2.5 to minny now being favoured by -2.5. Can somebody explain without being a dick about my question please.
@Redxff77
Seems as if Vegas already knows Prescott won't be starting. Prescott was in a legit walking boot last week, Boys won't risk the rest of their season and super bowl hopes on 1 week. He is way more important than 1 game, Boys have more to worry about than this 1 win/loss.
Obviously it has not been stated he is for sure out, but that's the story they're telling us.
@Redxff77
Seems as if Vegas already knows Prescott won't be starting. Prescott was in a legit walking boot last week, Boys won't risk the rest of their season and super bowl hopes on 1 week. He is way more important than 1 game, Boys have more to worry about than this 1 win/loss.
Obviously it has not been stated he is for sure out, but that's the story they're telling us.
Thx you guys very much, I appreciate the straight forward answer. What I read was that he was practising just fine the other day and tossing the ball well. That makes perfect sense about the line movement.
Thx you guys very much, I appreciate the straight forward answer. What I read was that he was practising just fine the other day and tossing the ball well. That makes perfect sense about the line movement.
I don’t see how this flipped unless Dak isn’t expected to play. Some “concern” is going to move it a point or 2. Not go from +2.5 to -2.5 Vikes.
He reportedly “ramped it up” intensity wise at practice yesterday and is feeling it today. That was reported today but the line flipped yesterday after practice.
Interesting….
I don’t see how this flipped unless Dak isn’t expected to play. Some “concern” is going to move it a point or 2. Not go from +2.5 to -2.5 Vikes.
He reportedly “ramped it up” intensity wise at practice yesterday and is feeling it today. That was reported today but the line flipped yesterday after practice.
Interesting….
I love this thread for the fact no bashing is involved and no ultra egos. Pure information and great input. We need more of this kinda stuff in every thread. Thx again guys
I love this thread for the fact no bashing is involved and no ultra egos. Pure information and great input. We need more of this kinda stuff in every thread. Thx again guys
@Redxff77
One thing to keep in mind.....
There are a couple of concepts of line movement at play here:
1. It takes CONSIDERABLY less money to move a line the farther you are away from gametime (Friday vs Sunday)
2. The line moves between -2.5 one way or the other are very fast and require CONSIDERABLY less money per half point than say between 2.5 and 8.
3. Crossing zero on a line move takes very little money
So while this looks like a 5 point swing, if you take in to account all three of the above - it might not be as impactful as it first appears.
Not saying it isnt justified, injuries, who I like etc.... Just pointing out some concepts that might be the cause.
@Redxff77
One thing to keep in mind.....
There are a couple of concepts of line movement at play here:
1. It takes CONSIDERABLY less money to move a line the farther you are away from gametime (Friday vs Sunday)
2. The line moves between -2.5 one way or the other are very fast and require CONSIDERABLY less money per half point than say between 2.5 and 8.
3. Crossing zero on a line move takes very little money
So while this looks like a 5 point swing, if you take in to account all three of the above - it might not be as impactful as it first appears.
Not saying it isnt justified, injuries, who I like etc.... Just pointing out some concepts that might be the cause.
To illustrate my point in post #10...
(Totally hypothetical)
It might take 100k overload for Book A to move on a Friday before a Sunday kickoff from -2.5 to +2.5
BUT
It might take that same book a minimum of a 5m overload to move on a Sunday from -2.5 to -7.5
Made up numbers - but you get the point.
To illustrate my point in post #10...
(Totally hypothetical)
It might take 100k overload for Book A to move on a Friday before a Sunday kickoff from -2.5 to +2.5
BUT
It might take that same book a minimum of a 5m overload to move on a Sunday from -2.5 to -7.5
Made up numbers - but you get the point.
@vanzack
I had not looked at how the movement occurred prior to my comment. After checking I see it was the movement you described and I agree. Also to that point it was small, gradual movement. Not -2.5 straight to +2.5, which is more indicative of an injury move aka books pull and repost line
@vanzack
I had not looked at how the movement occurred prior to my comment. After checking I see it was the movement you described and I agree. Also to that point it was small, gradual movement. Not -2.5 straight to +2.5, which is more indicative of an injury move aka books pull and repost line
Long time Cowboys follower. I like to think I know this team inside and out. Cowboys have been playing above average. A lot of this has to do with scheme thanks to addition of Dan Quinn on defense. Still, we are grossly undersized in the D-line. Randy Gregory has been balling but still that is one man on the line. I really think this Vikings running attack will capitalize against the boys, setting up the deep play action play. Kirk Cousins has been playing well. He had thrown for 13 TDs and only 2 interceptions. He’s been taking care of the ball and this Cowboys team will have a tough time grinding out a tough, gritty win against this Vikings team because of that I think. The fact the line never crossed the critical 3 let’s me know that despite heavy Cowboys action early on, bookmakers anticipate a close game and (likely) a Minnesota win SU.
Long time Cowboys follower. I like to think I know this team inside and out. Cowboys have been playing above average. A lot of this has to do with scheme thanks to addition of Dan Quinn on defense. Still, we are grossly undersized in the D-line. Randy Gregory has been balling but still that is one man on the line. I really think this Vikings running attack will capitalize against the boys, setting up the deep play action play. Kirk Cousins has been playing well. He had thrown for 13 TDs and only 2 interceptions. He’s been taking care of the ball and this Cowboys team will have a tough time grinding out a tough, gritty win against this Vikings team because of that I think. The fact the line never crossed the critical 3 let’s me know that despite heavy Cowboys action early on, bookmakers anticipate a close game and (likely) a Minnesota win SU.
Betting on Minnesota is not for the faint of heart. They are awful at closing out games and play horrible bend but don’t break defense when they get a lead.
If Dak plays or not. I love getting Dallas and buying it to 3 points. This should be a close game, but Minnesota cannot close out a game.
Betting on Minnesota is not for the faint of heart. They are awful at closing out games and play horrible bend but don’t break defense when they get a lead.
If Dak plays or not. I love getting Dallas and buying it to 3 points. This should be a close game, but Minnesota cannot close out a game.
What’s sad is most of you don’t even realize how good the Vikings are. I do I have 60-1 good!
Even the Vikings don’t realize how good they are yet! Sunday night we find out with an easy win. 28-3 45-3 something like that is the score….
people … the best team in nfc is the…
Minnesota Vikings
im the only one that sees this coming. :)
What’s sad is most of you don’t even realize how good the Vikings are. I do I have 60-1 good!
Even the Vikings don’t realize how good they are yet! Sunday night we find out with an easy win. 28-3 45-3 something like that is the score….
people … the best team in nfc is the…
Minnesota Vikings
im the only one that sees this coming. :)
@vanzack
thx for the info on line movement. An example would have been last Sunday in the Arizona game? The line moved significantly before game time with what I’m assuming would be big money moving the line?
@vanzack
thx for the info on line movement. An example would have been last Sunday in the Arizona game? The line moved significantly before game time with what I’m assuming would be big money moving the line?
Couple of good points in this thread - Vikings are probably stronger than their record as they should have beat Cincy and Arizona with a better FG. However, the point of them not being able to close out games is legit right. Your record is what it is.
Throw in the potential injury and Vikings at home I'm not surprised the line is where it's at. Van makes a great point when the number is moving from -2 to +2 not that critical of a move in terms of football numbers.
GL with your play
Couple of good points in this thread - Vikings are probably stronger than their record as they should have beat Cincy and Arizona with a better FG. However, the point of them not being able to close out games is legit right. Your record is what it is.
Throw in the potential injury and Vikings at home I'm not surprised the line is where it's at. Van makes a great point when the number is moving from -2 to +2 not that critical of a move in terms of football numbers.
GL with your play
Vegas is pricing in the big possibility than Dak doesn't play, but IMO it's not all priced in yet. -2.5 and +2.5 instead all that big a difference IMO. It didn't pass through any key numbers.
They'll give you +132 on Dallas ML if you wanna chance it ahead of time without knowing Dak's status because they can't leave the line off the board the entire week. Because it's gonna be way higher later on if he doesn't play.
It also leaves a small window for a middle if you had Dallas -2.5 or 1.5 originally, and try to buy your bet back with Minny -2.5.
If Dak is confirmed out, I expect the line to move towards the -6 to -7 range. If Dak plays, it probably moves back to pickem or -1.
I normally would play Dallas in the case of a backup QB, but I think there's probably enough early action on Dallas, and stubborn people refusing to buy back their picks, that they don't care and Minnesota probably still wins the game either way.
Vegas is pricing in the big possibility than Dak doesn't play, but IMO it's not all priced in yet. -2.5 and +2.5 instead all that big a difference IMO. It didn't pass through any key numbers.
They'll give you +132 on Dallas ML if you wanna chance it ahead of time without knowing Dak's status because they can't leave the line off the board the entire week. Because it's gonna be way higher later on if he doesn't play.
It also leaves a small window for a middle if you had Dallas -2.5 or 1.5 originally, and try to buy your bet back with Minny -2.5.
If Dak is confirmed out, I expect the line to move towards the -6 to -7 range. If Dak plays, it probably moves back to pickem or -1.
I normally would play Dallas in the case of a backup QB, but I think there's probably enough early action on Dallas, and stubborn people refusing to buy back their picks, that they don't care and Minnesota probably still wins the game either way.
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