Manziel was pathetic last week. There is no way after a performance like that he will bounce back and play well.
Panthers have been playing better recently. Jonathon Stewart is healthy (for now) and he will run the ball down Cleveland's throat. The Browns defense is struggling with injuries now whereas before they could at least rely on their help.
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Manziel was pathetic last week. There is no way after a performance like that he will bounce back and play well.
Panthers have been playing better recently. Jonathon Stewart is healthy (for now) and he will run the ball down Cleveland's throat. The Browns defense is struggling with injuries now whereas before they could at least rely on their help.
Manziel was pathetic last week. There is no way after a performance like that he will bounce back and play well.
Panthers have been playing better recently. Jonathon Stewart is healthy (for now) and he will run the ball down Cleveland's throat. The Browns defense is struggling with injuries now whereas before they could at least rely on their help.
Guru - I don't necessarily disagree with your thought about Manziel's performance, however, I do think he plays a little better today. I think this game is about the other 51 players. They got their butts whipped last week. Carolina is not the same physical team Cincy is. I look for Cleveland to be extremely competitive today. GL with your play
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Quote Originally Posted by _Guru_:
Manziel was pathetic last week. There is no way after a performance like that he will bounce back and play well.
Panthers have been playing better recently. Jonathon Stewart is healthy (for now) and he will run the ball down Cleveland's throat. The Browns defense is struggling with injuries now whereas before they could at least rely on their help.
Guru - I don't necessarily disagree with your thought about Manziel's performance, however, I do think he plays a little better today. I think this game is about the other 51 players. They got their butts whipped last week. Carolina is not the same physical team Cincy is. I look for Cleveland to be extremely competitive today. GL with your play
Here is the funny thing about this post. You are still betting on a 5-8-1 team in the Panthers. Cam isn't healthy.Who have the Panthers beat recently that makes Stewart and that D look good? Tampa? Nola? Ah no wonder. You go off of one game with Johnny Football and Cleveland's defense. You think they will come out like that again. Way too much hype his first week and underestimated the Bengals. Now theres no hype and talk of him being a bust. Love this spot and how the public is all over the Panthers. People jump off bandwagons so quick in the NFL. I will take the free money and Clev +4 BOL
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Here is the funny thing about this post. You are still betting on a 5-8-1 team in the Panthers. Cam isn't healthy.Who have the Panthers beat recently that makes Stewart and that D look good? Tampa? Nola? Ah no wonder. You go off of one game with Johnny Football and Cleveland's defense. You think they will come out like that again. Way too much hype his first week and underestimated the Bengals. Now theres no hype and talk of him being a bust. Love this spot and how the public is all over the Panthers. People jump off bandwagons so quick in the NFL. I will take the free money and Clev +4 BOL
Guru - I don't necessarily disagree with your thought about Manziel's performance, however, I do think he plays a little better today. I think this game is about the other 51 players. They got their butts whipped last week. Carolina is not the same physical team Cincy is. I look for Cleveland to be extremely competitive today. GL with your play
I have to ask you this question....Why would they be more competitive today??? The season was on the line last week... This week means nothing.. You think the rest of the team is going to go nuts and rally around a young mouthy quarterback this week ..
I dont think so .. I think the browns are over it and ready to start the off season.. Manziel will lose and he will lose bad .. But hey its not my money ...
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Quote Originally Posted by oldwiseone:
Guru - I don't necessarily disagree with your thought about Manziel's performance, however, I do think he plays a little better today. I think this game is about the other 51 players. They got their butts whipped last week. Carolina is not the same physical team Cincy is. I look for Cleveland to be extremely competitive today. GL with your play
I have to ask you this question....Why would they be more competitive today??? The season was on the line last week... This week means nothing.. You think the rest of the team is going to go nuts and rally around a young mouthy quarterback this week ..
I dont think so .. I think the browns are over it and ready to start the off season.. Manziel will lose and he will lose bad .. But hey its not my money ...
Here is the funny thing about this post. You are still betting on a 5-8-1 team in the Panthers. Cam isn't healthy.Who have the Panthers beat recently that makes Stewart and that D look good? Tampa? Nola? Ah no wonder. You go off of one game with Johnny Football and Cleveland's defense. You think they will come out like that again. Way too much hype his first week and underestimated the Bengals. Now theres no hype and talk of him being a bust. Love this spot and how the public is all over the Panthers. People jump off bandwagons so quick in the NFL. I will take the free money and Clev +4 BOL
I believe in momentum. I believe that the Panthers work better as front runners both offensively and defensively. Something needs to be said for them being in playoff contention, not factoring in their poor record. They have extra initiative to win right now. I don't really think this Browns team believes in Johnny. Not right now.
The Browns defense is beat up right now. That is their calling card. I think the Colts game was their last stand a few weeks ago and they let that one slip. Again just watching that game last week, Manziel was AWFUL. You don't bounce back in one week and play a good game after that.
BOL fellas I've got about 750 on the Browns.
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Quote Originally Posted by PGAromes82:
Here is the funny thing about this post. You are still betting on a 5-8-1 team in the Panthers. Cam isn't healthy.Who have the Panthers beat recently that makes Stewart and that D look good? Tampa? Nola? Ah no wonder. You go off of one game with Johnny Football and Cleveland's defense. You think they will come out like that again. Way too much hype his first week and underestimated the Bengals. Now theres no hype and talk of him being a bust. Love this spot and how the public is all over the Panthers. People jump off bandwagons so quick in the NFL. I will take the free money and Clev +4 BOL
I believe in momentum. I believe that the Panthers work better as front runners both offensively and defensively. Something needs to be said for them being in playoff contention, not factoring in their poor record. They have extra initiative to win right now. I don't really think this Browns team believes in Johnny. Not right now.
The Browns defense is beat up right now. That is their calling card. I think the Colts game was their last stand a few weeks ago and they let that one slip. Again just watching that game last week, Manziel was AWFUL. You don't bounce back in one week and play a good game after that.
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