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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 5:44 PM ET #1

    I got the Cowboys -2.5. I just can't see any value playing Arizona at +3 or even +3.5. That Denver lost had a lot of luck involved with the lightning delay (throwing off the offense).  Dallas has more skill on offense, and the defenses are not as far apart as people might think vs. Arizona.  Am I missing anything here? Just smells funny.

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    I got the Cowboys -2.5. I just can't see any value playing Arizona at +3 or even +3.5. That Denver lost had a lot of luck involved with the lightning delay (throwing off the offense).  Dallas has more skill on offense, and the defenses are not as far apart as people might think vs. Arizona.  Am I missing anything here? Just smells funny.

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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 5:48 PM ET #2

    Dallas secondary is banged up. Arizona may be able to move the ball through the air. Arizona secondary is very talented with peterson and mathieu... arizona run defense is a little underrated..... Arians undefeated on MNF i believe.... Cardinals have great ATS record vs NFC east teams
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    Dallas secondary is banged up. Arizona may be able to move the ball through the air. Arizona secondary is very talented with peterson and mathieu... arizona run defense is a little underrated..... Arians undefeated on MNF i believe.... Cardinals have great ATS record vs NFC east teams
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 6:05 PM ET #3

    That is definitely a concern that the secondary is a little banged up, but I just don't see the value of making a play on the Cardinals for +3 points. I do think this was a over reaction to that Denver game.  They keep that game close vs. Denver we are talking -4 or -5 for Dallas tonight.  I also think that Dak is kind of getting exposed in these first couple of games which doesn't do well for my pick.  2-0 Dallas might fall into a trap tonight but I think a Dallas team that just got embarrassed is going to swing the hammer tonight. 

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    That is definitely a concern that the secondary is a little banged up, but I just don't see the value of making a play on the Cardinals for +3 points. I do think this was a over reaction to that Denver game.  They keep that game close vs. Denver we are talking -4 or -5 for Dallas tonight.  I also think that Dak is kind of getting exposed in these first couple of games which doesn't do well for my pick.  2-0 Dallas might fall into a trap tonight but I think a Dallas team that just got embarrassed is going to swing the hammer tonight. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 6:15 PM ET #4

    one of the top value plays are home dogs .Maybe at +3 theres little value  but at 3.5 its  the value most of us look for . Yesterday kinda proved that point  Look at Buff  and Redskins  My Best bet ,,  I took Cards on Friday bought the half to +4  .They get small ML bet on  tonight ,
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    one of the top value plays are home dogs .Maybe at +3 theres little value  but at 3.5 its  the value most of us look for . Yesterday kinda proved that point  Look at Buff  and Redskins  My Best bet ,,  I took Cards on Friday bought the half to +4  .They get small ML bet on  tonight ,
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 6:24 PM ET #5

    I hammered the dogs this weekend especially the 0-2s. Chicago and New Orleans were desperate for wins. I agree that +4 is some great value.  We just live in a society that wants to hit the panic button on teams like the Cowboys or Patriots so quick.  If this was like a Tennessee or even a LA Rams team at home I would jump on it. Just something about the Cardinals.  Not really excited to put money on a team that hasn't established anything yet, with a aging QB, and their best offensive player is injured.   
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    I hammered the dogs this weekend especially the 0-2s. Chicago and New Orleans were desperate for wins. I agree that +4 is some great value.  We just live in a society that wants to hit the panic button on teams like the Cowboys or Patriots so quick.  If this was like a Tennessee or even a LA Rams team at home I would jump on it. Just something about the Cardinals.  Not really excited to put money on a team that hasn't established anything yet, with a aging QB, and their best offensive player is injured.   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 6:33 PM ET #6

    You have to figure out how much Arizona's HFA is worth and then work backwards from there. I.E. how many points would you be willing to lay with the Cowboys at home vs. Arizona? Whatever that number is, then compare it to tonight's line and see if the -3 can be substantiated.
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    You have to figure out how much Arizona's HFA is worth and then work backwards from there. I.E. how many points would you be willing to lay with the Cowboys at home vs. Arizona? Whatever that number is, then compare it to tonight's line and see if the -3 can be substantiated.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 6:57 PM ET #7

    -6.5 would be that max that I am willing to lay on the Cowboys at home vs the Cards.    
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    -6.5 would be that max that I am willing to lay on the Cowboys at home vs the Cards.    
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 7:00 PM ET #8

    That would mean you think the Giants are significantly better than the Cards. Is that the case though?
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    That would mean you think the Giants are significantly better than the Cards. Is that the case though?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 7:31 PM ET #9

    Haha, the Denver route was occurring regardless of what happened last week.  May the soon to be 8-8 Cowboys give you one tonight.
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 10:26 PM ET #10

    I don't think the Cards are necessarily better than the Giants, I just see the Giants more of a betting favorite than the Cardinals. 
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2017 - 10:29 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by nashviddles23:

    Haha, the Denver route was occurring regardless of what happened last week.  May the soon to be 8-8 Cowboys give you one tonight.

    I don't know about 8-8 bro? Cowboys get the at least 9 this year. Broncos might go 8-8, everyone thought Trevor Seiman was a superstar before he went to Buffalo. He's a turd sandwich and a half.
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    Haha, the Denver route was occurring regardless of what happened last week.  May the soon to be 8-8 Cowboys give you one tonight.

    I don't know about 8-8 bro? Cowboys get the at least 9 this year. Broncos might go 8-8, everyone thought Trevor Seiman was a superstar before he went to Buffalo. He's a turd sandwich and a half.
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