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    Here is why the Jets will beat the Steelers today..

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 10:34 AM ET #1

    Jets ML(5 units) This line REEKS! But for good reason...Ben has been on a blazing streak last couple games but the Jets could slow that down a good bit and here is why, After a 31-10 loss to the Browns on Oct. 12, the Steelers realized that their offense needed tweaked...Now the Steelers have stripped it down and simplified everything for everybody, including Roethlisberger. They are running motion more to give Roethlisberger a coverage indicator before the snap. If a defender goes with the motion, it's man to man. If he doesn't, it's zone...simple as that...well the Jets are the best in the Business about disguising their coverage so look for the Offense of the Steelers to sputter today...The Jets have 25 sacks, third most in the AFC, and eight players have multiple sacks. Wilkerson (41?2) and Richardson (31?2) have combined for eight sacks - third most by an AFC defensive-line tandem - and 50 QB hurries....Ben will be holding the Ball Longer figuring out coverage today...On Offense The Jets are getting better, The Jets have the No. 3 rush offense in the league, averaging 139.9 yards per game and 4.7 yards per carry.... Vick was very efficient last week, completing 21 of 28 passes for 196 yards and a touchdown with a rating of 105.7...Steelers’ defense isn’t quite the same with Troy Polamalu and Ryan Shazier, will be out of the lineup , Percy Harvin will have a big day...Harvin has 2 games under his belt with the Jets and him and Vick are developing chemistry rather fast.. 
    Why was Justin Bieber hanging out with Pittsburgh Steelers on night before Jets game? 
    https://nypost.com/2014/11/08/justin-bieber-is-praying-for-the-jets-to-lose/
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Jets ML(5 units) This line REEKS! But for good reason...Ben has been on a blazing streak last couple games but the Jets could slow that down a good bit and here is why, After a 31-10 loss to the Browns on Oct. 12, the Steelers realized that their offense needed tweaked...Now the Steelers have stripped it down and simplified everything for everybody, including Roethlisberger. They are running motion more to give Roethlisberger a coverage indicator before the snap. If a defender goes with the motion, it's man to man. If he doesn't, it's zone...simple as that...well the Jets are the best in the Business about disguising their coverage so look for the Offense of the Steelers to sputter today...The Jets have 25 sacks, third most in the AFC, and eight players have multiple sacks. Wilkerson (41?2) and Richardson (31?2) have combined for eight sacks - third most by an AFC defensive-line tandem - and 50 QB hurries....Ben will be holding the Ball Longer figuring out coverage today...On Offense The Jets are getting better, The Jets have the No. 3 rush offense in the league, averaging 139.9 yards per game and 4.7 yards per carry.... Vick was very efficient last week, completing 21 of 28 passes for 196 yards and a touchdown with a rating of 105.7...Steelers’ defense isn’t quite the same with Troy Polamalu and Ryan Shazier, will be out of the lineup , Percy Harvin will have a big day...Harvin has 2 games under his belt with the Jets and him and Vick are developing chemistry rather fast.. 
    Why was Justin Bieber hanging out with Pittsburgh Steelers on night before Jets game? 
    https://nypost.com/2014/11/08/justin-bieber-is-praying-for-the-jets-to-lose/
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 10:38 AM ET #2

    I've bet on the jets on the last 3 occasions, losing each time. Never trust the jets with your money. This line does reek to high heaven but the jets suck on both sides of the ball. Vick could turn it around, but i doubt it.
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    I've bet on the jets on the last 3 occasions, losing each time. Never trust the jets with your money. This line does reek to high heaven but the jets suck on both sides of the ball. Vick could turn it around, but i doubt it.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 10:40 AM ET #3

    And the last post is a big reason the Jets cover.  Nothing in the first post.
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    And the last post is a big reason the Jets cover.  Nothing in the first post.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 10:42 AM ET #4

    Vick will turn it around? Chemistry?  They're 1-8.  Time to think about draft picks. 
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    Vick will turn it around? Chemistry?  They're 1-8.  Time to think about draft picks. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:01 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by documented:

    Vick will turn it around? Chemistry?  They're 1-8.  Time to think about draft picks. 

    Players don't care about draft picks. 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by documented:

    Vick will turn it around? Chemistry?  They're 1-8.  Time to think about draft picks. 

    Players don't care about draft picks. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:13 AM ET #6

    I have a small play on Jets...
    - steelers are not the best road team(avg 15 pts)
    -jets have good RUN defense
    - steelers coming off Ravens game
    -3.5 is a high spread for a road team that just 3 weeks ago everyone thought they were done.
    - steelers got injuries on defense 

      Not saying Jets are the obvious choice by any means, but not understanding why all the disbelief in this line. This is the NFL, the better team doesn't always win. 
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    I have a small play on Jets...
    - steelers are not the best road team(avg 15 pts)
    -jets have good RUN defense
    - steelers coming off Ravens game
    -3.5 is a high spread for a road team that just 3 weeks ago everyone thought they were done.
    - steelers got injuries on defense 

      Not saying Jets are the obvious choice by any means, but not understanding why all the disbelief in this line. This is the NFL, the better team doesn't always win. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:19 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzey:

    And the last post is a big reason the Jets cover.  Nothing in the first post.


    Not saying the jets wont cover, all im saying is that i cant trust the jets, regardless of the numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzey:

    And the last post is a big reason the Jets cover.  Nothing in the first post.


    Not saying the jets wont cover, all im saying is that i cant trust the jets, regardless of the numbers
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:22 AM ET #8

    JETS ARE WORST TEAM GOING AND EVERY WEEK THEY MOVE LINE OTHER WAY TO TRY TO GET YOU TO BELIEVE THE JETS WILL COVER. STEELERS TO THE BANK!
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    JETS ARE WORST TEAM GOING AND EVERY WEEK THEY MOVE LINE OTHER WAY TO TRY TO GET YOU TO BELIEVE THE JETS WILL COVER. STEELERS TO THE BANK!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:23 AM ET #9

    I can see why people would be against the Steelers in this spot. But i cannot fathom losing any more money hoping the Jet's offense don't darn things up every chance they get. I see the opposite here. Steelers or lay off. Not worth the risk on the J-E-T-S.
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    I can see why people would be against the Steelers in this spot. But i cannot fathom losing any more money hoping the Jet's offense don't darn things up every chance they get. I see the opposite here. Steelers or lay off. Not worth the risk on the J-E-T-S.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:24 AM ET #10

    Take the points
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    Take the points
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:27 AM ET #11

    This is a classic example of everyone seeing a line and thinking they're gonna be sharp. 

    Jets have converted WRs playing DB and Michael Vick doesn't even wanna be out there anymore.. He's just taken to many hits.
     
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    This is a classic example of everyone seeing a line and thinking they're gonna be sharp. 

    Jets have converted WRs playing DB and Michael Vick doesn't even wanna be out there anymore.. He's just taken to many hits.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2014 - 11:36 AM ET #12

    they've disguised so well that they've given up 31 31 27 43 24 in their last 5 games. It's wither Pitt or no play imo
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    they've disguised so well that they've given up 31 31 27 43 24 in their last 5 games. It's wither Pitt or no play imo
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikki_santoro:

    This is a classic example of everyone seeing a line and thinking they're gonna be sharp. 

    Jets have converted WRs playing DB and Michael Vick doesn't even wanna be out there anymore.. He's just taken to many hits.
     
    My Play had nothing to do with the line, If you read it I said the Steelers success on offense recently by reading the coverages a different way was barking up the wrong tree with Ryans defense which disguises it's coverage so well..

    here is another you can gripe about...

    7-1 +20.3 units yesterday! hell yea man! 

    Panthers+7(3 units)well, call me nuts if your on the Eagles but Ya better check this out first.... I think the Panthers have a shot at winning this game su..Their O line is getting a couple guys back and Eagles middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans, who leads the team with 45 tackles, tore his Achilles tendon Week 9 and is done for the year...Eagles also lost Foles and all of a Sudden everyone is writing Sanchez is a changed man..well he trew two picks last week making that 71 picks thrown by Sanchez in his four-plus year career...No team has turned over the ball more than the Eagles, whose 21 giveaways have resulted in a minus-10 turnover margin that is tied for next-to-last in the league....now add into that Mr 71 interception in 4 years...Sanchez a 7 point favorite??? C'mon... 
    That said, The Panthers have had no heart at times this year,I think they bring it tonight though,Panthers remarkably have a chance to take the NFC South lead with a win...Had 10 days to prep for this game, Basically this is their season tonight,For the Eagles? just another game really....And may have distractions being home on MNF playing a nobody,Breaking out new uniforms tonight, may be too giddy... 
    The last time Carolina played at Philadelphia was in 2012, and that was on “Monday Night Football” too. It turned out to be one of Cam Newton’s best games ever, as he threw for two touchdowns, ran for two more and led Carolina to a 30-22 win...Let's look at the strength of schedules leading up to tonight, the Panthers have played some dam good teams,Seattle/Saints/packers/Ravens/Steelers/Lions/ beating the Lions soundly and tying the Bengals on the road..The Eagles,Not so much, They played 3 quality teams beating the only the Colts...Yet the Eagles are only +57 net points after 8 games..playing alot of bum teams as in Jags/Jets/Skins/Giants/Rams Houston...There is alot of Value in them 7 points tonight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikki_santoro:

    This is a classic example of everyone seeing a line and thinking they're gonna be sharp. 

    Jets have converted WRs playing DB and Michael Vick doesn't even wanna be out there anymore.. He's just taken to many hits.
     
    My Play had nothing to do with the line, If you read it I said the Steelers success on offense recently by reading the coverages a different way was barking up the wrong tree with Ryans defense which disguises it's coverage so well..

    here is another you can gripe about...

    7-1 +20.3 units yesterday! hell yea man! 

    Panthers+7(3 units)well, call me nuts if your on the Eagles but Ya better check this out first.... I think the Panthers have a shot at winning this game su..Their O line is getting a couple guys back and Eagles middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans, who leads the team with 45 tackles, tore his Achilles tendon Week 9 and is done for the year...Eagles also lost Foles and all of a Sudden everyone is writing Sanchez is a changed man..well he trew two picks last week making that 71 picks thrown by Sanchez in his four-plus year career...No team has turned over the ball more than the Eagles, whose 21 giveaways have resulted in a minus-10 turnover margin that is tied for next-to-last in the league....now add into that Mr 71 interception in 4 years...Sanchez a 7 point favorite??? C'mon... 
    That said, The Panthers have had no heart at times this year,I think they bring it tonight though,Panthers remarkably have a chance to take the NFC South lead with a win...Had 10 days to prep for this game, Basically this is their season tonight,For the Eagles? just another game really....And may have distractions being home on MNF playing a nobody,Breaking out new uniforms tonight, may be too giddy... 
    The last time Carolina played at Philadelphia was in 2012, and that was on “Monday Night Football” too. It turned out to be one of Cam Newton’s best games ever, as he threw for two touchdowns, ran for two more and led Carolina to a 30-22 win...Let's look at the strength of schedules leading up to tonight, the Panthers have played some dam good teams,Seattle/Saints/packers/Ravens/Steelers/Lions/ beating the Lions soundly and tying the Bengals on the road..The Eagles,Not so much, They played 3 quality teams beating the only the Colts...Yet the Eagles are only +57 net points after 8 games..playing alot of bum teams as in Jags/Jets/Skins/Giants/Rams Houston...There is alot of Value in them 7 points tonight!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 2:05 PM ET #14

    Good points, Justwinbaby61 you make a good case and if you wait till game time you might get 7.5somewhere, the sports books have a ton of Parlay bet liability riding on Eagles.Cam is capable of taking over the game with his legs and Sanchez can crumble if Eagles don 't run the ball effectively and he has to throw over 30 times.
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    Good points, Justwinbaby61 you make a good case and if you wait till game time you might get 7.5somewhere, the sports books have a ton of Parlay bet liability riding on Eagles.Cam is capable of taking over the game with his legs and Sanchez can crumble if Eagles don 't run the ball effectively and he has to throw over 30 times.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 2:13 PM ET #15

    Finally someone on covers that knows what he's doing! Thanks for the post and Goodluck tonight! Line agrees with your play 100% public is on a shirt line$$$$$$$$$
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    Finally someone on covers that knows what he's doing! Thanks for the post and Goodluck tonight! Line agrees with your play 100% public is on a shirt line$$$$$$$$$
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 2:14 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by skullf:

    Good points, Justwinbaby61 you make a good case and if you wait till game time you might get 7.5somewhere, the sports books have a ton of Parlay bet liability riding on Eagles.Cam is capable of taking over the game with his legs and Sanchez can crumble if Eagles don 't run the ball effectively and he has to throw over 30 times.

    I thought about that but was thinking the sharps may drive it down to 6'
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    Quote Originally Posted by skullf:

    Good points, Justwinbaby61 you make a good case and if you wait till game time you might get 7.5somewhere, the sports books have a ton of Parlay bet liability riding on Eagles.Cam is capable of taking over the game with his legs and Sanchez can crumble if Eagles don 't run the ball effectively and he has to throw over 30 times.

    I thought about that but was thinking the sharps may drive it down to 6'
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 2:43 PM ET #17

    Not being a hater, they didnt play the jets though.. just a correction. good write up though.. but i must say there isnt really a drop off between foles and sanchez and its very clear. Sanchez outplayed foles in the preseason, chip's offense makes quarterbacks look better than they are thats why i think Sanchez is gonna be fine. Also one of Sanchez's interception last week hit Josh Huff right in his hands, not really his fault. bol on your play 
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    Not being a hater, they didnt play the jets though.. just a correction. good write up though.. but i must say there isnt really a drop off between foles and sanchez and its very clear. Sanchez outplayed foles in the preseason, chip's offense makes quarterbacks look better than they are thats why i think Sanchez is gonna be fine. Also one of Sanchez's interception last week hit Josh Huff right in his hands, not really his fault. bol on your play 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJunod:

    Not being a hater, they didnt play the jets though.. just a correction. good write up though.. but i must say there isnt really a drop off between foles and sanchez and its very clear. Sanchez outplayed foles in the preseason, chip's offense makes quarterbacks look better than they are thats why i think Sanchez is gonna be fine. Also one of Sanchez's interception last week hit Josh Huff right in his hands, not really his fault. bol on your play 
    Your correct, The Eagles played the Jets in the last preseason game,On this game I'm not looking for The qb to be the difference though I do give it some weight as Sanchez is turnover prone and weird,bad stuff happens when he is qb, The eagles are just turnover prone and I think with the Saints losing the Panthers will come in and play with heart and get a  physical running game going, If they get the lead 1st it's all over I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJunod:

    Not being a hater, they didnt play the jets though.. just a correction. good write up though.. but i must say there isnt really a drop off between foles and sanchez and its very clear. Sanchez outplayed foles in the preseason, chip's offense makes quarterbacks look better than they are thats why i think Sanchez is gonna be fine. Also one of Sanchez's interception last week hit Josh Huff right in his hands, not really his fault. bol on your play 
    Your correct, The Eagles played the Jets in the last preseason game,On this game I'm not looking for The qb to be the difference though I do give it some weight as Sanchez is turnover prone and weird,bad stuff happens when he is qb, The eagles are just turnover prone and I think with the Saints losing the Panthers will come in and play with heart and get a  physical running game going, If they get the lead 1st it's all over I think...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 3:27 PM ET #19

    SANCHEZ the ( the burrito ) is gona get pick 6 twice tonight. And unstead of laying 7. He's gona lay his head 7 time in his teammate a$$ tonight :)
    Love PANTER tonight GL
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    SANCHEZ the ( the burrito ) is gona get pick 6 twice tonight. And unstead of laying 7. He's gona lay his head 7 time in his teammate a$$ tonight :)
    Love PANTER tonight GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 6:14 PM ET #20

    It seems you know what you're doing, gl
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    It seems you know what you're doing, gl
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 6:17 PM ET #21

    Good call on the Jets JustWinBaby Congrats 

    GL tonight JWB

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    Good call on the Jets JustWinBaby Congrats 

    GL tonight JWB

    Panthers Roar Tonight!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 6:29 PM ET #22

    good call and very sound logic. Please keep posting. I really like the UNDER tonight... i see a methodical ball control type of game here. And you are wrong on one thing though, this is a must win for both teams. Both teams will come out with focus...wouldn't be surprised to see a 10-3 score at halftime. 
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    good call and very sound logic. Please keep posting. I really like the UNDER tonight... i see a methodical ball control type of game here. And you are wrong on one thing though, this is a must win for both teams. Both teams will come out with focus...wouldn't be surprised to see a 10-3 score at halftime. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2014 - 6:36 PM ET #23

    Impressive .. Wish I had read this great post before th game 

    Congrats

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    Impressive .. Wish I had read this great post before th game 

    Congrats

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