I'm criticizing him for not being an efficient QB and moving the ball. Of my list which brady, brees and rodgers make up 15%, I listed Qb's that can sustain drives and I can trust to get yards. Of the qb's that can sustain drives it works out to 15 qbs. So out of 30 teams I feel 15 50% are efficient. Tebow then imo is average or below in efficeny and trusting him moving forward. I am not comparing him to brees, rodgers and brady because that is ridiculous. No one here should be making that comparison.
Tebow was a 4th stringer...Big deal! Dalton and Newton were playing college ball on similar teams winning teams in college are are getting it done. Tebow still WON national titles and played well in college. If you are going to give me a fourth stringer come back here with Warner or Garcia playing ball up here then going to the pro bowl. Tebow is not you typical fourth stringer and has been playing winning center stage ball before. I'm not just picking the cream of the crop and expecting tebow to compete against them.
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I'm criticizing him for not being an efficient QB and moving the ball. Of my list which brady, brees and rodgers make up 15%, I listed Qb's that can sustain drives and I can trust to get yards. Of the qb's that can sustain drives it works out to 15 qbs. So out of 30 teams I feel 15 50% are efficient. Tebow then imo is average or below in efficeny and trusting him moving forward. I am not comparing him to brees, rodgers and brady because that is ridiculous. No one here should be making that comparison.
Tebow was a 4th stringer...Big deal! Dalton and Newton were playing college ball on similar teams winning teams in college are are getting it done. Tebow still WON national titles and played well in college. If you are going to give me a fourth stringer come back here with Warner or Garcia playing ball up here then going to the pro bowl. Tebow is not you typical fourth stringer and has been playing winning center stage ball before. I'm not just picking the cream of the crop and expecting tebow to compete against them.
Some of that will depend on the players around Tebow.
As far as offensive weapons go not too many QBs have less to work with than Tim Tebow.Of all the teams with above .500 records he easily has the worst.
There isn’t a QB in the NFL this season doing more with less than Tim Tebow.
I agree. Run game is going well with Willis but receivers are awful.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Some of that will depend on the players around Tebow.
As far as offensive weapons go not too many QBs have less to work with than Tim Tebow.Of all the teams with above .500 records he easily has the worst.
There isn’t a QB in the NFL this season doing more with less than Tim Tebow.
I agree. Run game is going well with Willis but receivers are awful.
I agree. Run game is going well with Willis but receivers are awful.
The only way they could get a good reciever or recievers is with a 3rd or 4th draft pick. Why would a reciever in the free agent market want to play in this offense??
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Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:
I agree. Run game is going well with Willis but receivers are awful.
The only way they could get a good reciever or recievers is with a 3rd or 4th draft pick. Why would a reciever in the free agent market want to play in this offense??
I'm criticizing him for not being an efficient QB and moving the ball. Of my list which brady, brees and rodgers make up 15%, I listed Qb's that can sustain drives and I can trust to get yards. Of the qb's that can sustain drives it works out to 15 qbs. So out of 30 teams I feel 15 50% are efficient. Tebow then imo is average or below in efficeny and trusting him moving forward. I am not comparing him to brees, rodgers and brady because that is ridiculous. No one here should be making that comparison.
Tebow was a 4th stringer...Big deal! Dalton and Newton were playing college ball on similar teams winning teams in college are are getting it done. Tebow still WON national titles and played well in college. If you are going to give me a fourth stringer come back here with Warner or Garcia playing ball up here then going to the pro bowl. Tebow is not you typical fourth stringer and has been playing winning center stage ball before. I'm not just picking the cream of the crop and expecting tebow to compete against them.
Whether it was warranted or not: the fact remains Tebow was a 4th string QB a few months ago.
It’s asinine to complain about a backup that’s basically a rookie because he isn’t currently a top 15 QB when he took over a 1-4 team with arguably the worst set of offensive weapons in the NFL.
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Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:
I'm criticizing him for not being an efficient QB and moving the ball. Of my list which brady, brees and rodgers make up 15%, I listed Qb's that can sustain drives and I can trust to get yards. Of the qb's that can sustain drives it works out to 15 qbs. So out of 30 teams I feel 15 50% are efficient. Tebow then imo is average or below in efficeny and trusting him moving forward. I am not comparing him to brees, rodgers and brady because that is ridiculous. No one here should be making that comparison.
Tebow was a 4th stringer...Big deal! Dalton and Newton were playing college ball on similar teams winning teams in college are are getting it done. Tebow still WON national titles and played well in college. If you are going to give me a fourth stringer come back here with Warner or Garcia playing ball up here then going to the pro bowl. Tebow is not you typical fourth stringer and has been playing winning center stage ball before. I'm not just picking the cream of the crop and expecting tebow to compete against them.
Whether it was warranted or not: the fact remains Tebow was a 4th string QB a few months ago.
It’s asinine to complain about a backup that’s basically a rookie because he isn’t currently a top 15 QB when he took over a 1-4 team with arguably the worst set of offensive weapons in the NFL.
Whether it was warranted or not: the fact remains Tebow was a 4th string QB a few months ago.
It’s asinine to complain about a backup that’s basically a rookie because he isn’t currently a top 15 QB when he took over a 1-4 team with arguably the worst set of offensive weapons in the NFL.
Not complaining just stating he is not an above average to average qb. That is all. I'm not expecting lots from him and clearly am not expecting lots in the future. He has leap and bounds to go. Maybe he can get there or maybe he will fall off. He hasn't proven anything to me other then he has heart, can be clutch (when his team is playing good d or gets turnovers and he has a chance), seems to be getting better, doesn't turn it over and has done well managing a team to wins. At the same time he has proven to me so far that he can't sustain drives and the O loks very ugly on the whole.
I'm also still a firm believer he is not winning games but the team is. Such as the jets game. How could you say HE is responsible when he has one great drive all game and they get 200 total yards? I would still fault the jets for blitzing up the middle when it was obviously going to be a tebow run on that big TD run.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Whether it was warranted or not: the fact remains Tebow was a 4th string QB a few months ago.
It’s asinine to complain about a backup that’s basically a rookie because he isn’t currently a top 15 QB when he took over a 1-4 team with arguably the worst set of offensive weapons in the NFL.
Not complaining just stating he is not an above average to average qb. That is all. I'm not expecting lots from him and clearly am not expecting lots in the future. He has leap and bounds to go. Maybe he can get there or maybe he will fall off. He hasn't proven anything to me other then he has heart, can be clutch (when his team is playing good d or gets turnovers and he has a chance), seems to be getting better, doesn't turn it over and has done well managing a team to wins. At the same time he has proven to me so far that he can't sustain drives and the O loks very ugly on the whole.
I'm also still a firm believer he is not winning games but the team is. Such as the jets game. How could you say HE is responsible when he has one great drive all game and they get 200 total yards? I would still fault the jets for blitzing up the middle when it was obviously going to be a tebow run on that big TD run.
sure tebow isnt like other pro quarter backs,but the job is to win and thats wat the broncos are doing,so wat ever gets wins work.am just glad josh mcdaniels the head coach anymore cause he really in my opinion wasnt are guy,so in comes john fox a proven winner,and and guy with knowledge of the game on the field,made sum nesseccary changes on offesense which was needed and had a defensive game plan too boot,and a system he runs too,but the best move was putting in tebow at the of pressure of week 5
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sure tebow isnt like other pro quarter backs,but the job is to win and thats wat the broncos are doing,so wat ever gets wins work.am just glad josh mcdaniels the head coach anymore cause he really in my opinion wasnt are guy,so in comes john fox a proven winner,and and guy with knowledge of the game on the field,made sum nesseccary changes on offesense which was needed and had a defensive game plan too boot,and a system he runs too,but the best move was putting in tebow at the of pressure of week 5
Not cover? The only way I see them not covering is cause a fish line so vegas knows something. Bears look anemic on O right now. How can anyone endorse them? Or Vegas also know Tebow and that O is that bad as well haven't played well enough to cover...
Under is the surfire with broncos a secondary if anything.
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Quote Originally Posted by jabbadon:
Denver will win this week but not cover
Not cover? The only way I see them not covering is cause a fish line so vegas knows something. Bears look anemic on O right now. How can anyone endorse them? Or Vegas also know Tebow and that O is that bad as well haven't played well enough to cover...
Under is the surfire with broncos a secondary if anything.
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