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    I know the whole “it’s RIGGED” is tiresome but come on

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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:26 PM ET #1

    But could it have been anymore obvious that the officials kept extending the Tampa drive ? Sooner or later even the worst team will score a TD after automatic first downs. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    But could it have been anymore obvious that the officials kept extending the Tampa drive ? Sooner or later even the worst team will score a TD after automatic first downs. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:27 PM ET #2

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     Yeah but the penalties were all obvious 

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     Yeah but the penalties were all obvious 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:29 PM ET #3

    Went for 2 so -9.5 backers would have no chance

     

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    Went for 2 so -9.5 backers would have no chance

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:32 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:

    @ActionMagnet  Yeah but the penalties were all obvious

    Those penalty’s could be called on every drive every down if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:

    @ActionMagnet  Yeah but the penalties were all obvious

    Those penalty’s could be called on every drive every down if they wanted to.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:40 PM ET #5

    It's a joke but it's the way the sport is now. The refs can't wait to throw these flags to get the game closer. Unfortunately the players seem unable to grasp this concept and make it easy for them. They were legit penalties and totally unnecessary. Why was he still contacting that WR after not just 5 but at least 8 yards, some rookie running a short route? And why would you ever be going anywhere near a QBs head at any point but especially on a game ending sack?

    Refs are serving the TV networks and th league trying to turn every game into nailbiters. But the players are absolutely moronic for giving them such easy opportunities to do it.

    The Bills blow covers like this all the time. Does anyone remember the game they played vs Green Bay last year? They really don't like winning by double digits when the spread is 7.5-10. I think they already had one cover in that range this year with the Raiders we can't have 2 in the first half of the season now come on.

    It's definitely frustrating because TB did absolutely nothing all game and got the money. They had one field goal. The two TDs they got were gifts, a turnover in the red zone and 2 personal fouls on 4th down. Week 1 look at the yardage numbers vs Minnesota. They got 3 red zone turnovers that game and got three last week also (they still lost).

    Let's have a look at their schedule and see what teams on it are good at taking care of the football. They won't get these inexplicable covers without these fluky, lucky, very timely takeaways. They're a terrible team that has somehow been expensive to fade but I intend to keep doing it, a classic Thursday night rig job isn't gonna put me off, that's why these games are trash for betting on and only worth beer money wagers.

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    It's a joke but it's the way the sport is now. The refs can't wait to throw these flags to get the game closer. Unfortunately the players seem unable to grasp this concept and make it easy for them. They were legit penalties and totally unnecessary. Why was he still contacting that WR after not just 5 but at least 8 yards, some rookie running a short route? And why would you ever be going anywhere near a QBs head at any point but especially on a game ending sack?

    Refs are serving the TV networks and th league trying to turn every game into nailbiters. But the players are absolutely moronic for giving them such easy opportunities to do it.

    The Bills blow covers like this all the time. Does anyone remember the game they played vs Green Bay last year? They really don't like winning by double digits when the spread is 7.5-10. I think they already had one cover in that range this year with the Raiders we can't have 2 in the first half of the season now come on.

    It's definitely frustrating because TB did absolutely nothing all game and got the money. They had one field goal. The two TDs they got were gifts, a turnover in the red zone and 2 personal fouls on 4th down. Week 1 look at the yardage numbers vs Minnesota. They got 3 red zone turnovers that game and got three last week also (they still lost).

    Let's have a look at their schedule and see what teams on it are good at taking care of the football. They won't get these inexplicable covers without these fluky, lucky, very timely takeaways. They're a terrible team that has somehow been expensive to fade but I intend to keep doing it, a classic Thursday night rig job isn't gonna put me off, that's why these games are trash for betting on and only worth beer money wagers.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:41 PM ET #6

    OK lets say the refs did what they could. How do you explain the lucky bounce off the Bills defenders helmet for the TD? That was just dumb luck or the bounce of the ball.

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    OK lets say the refs did what they could. How do you explain the lucky bounce off the Bills defenders helmet for the TD? That was just dumb luck or the bounce of the ball.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:47 PM ET #7

    If you think these refs don't influence games that's freaking insane. why would they care to help Tampa get that TD. The line was 8-10 all week and more money on buffalo. The game and vegas is intertwined. results are based on how much they can make. Don't tell me that's just how games are played and nothing fishy is going on. If you think that! That's freaking insane!!!! That TD by Evans was offensive pass interference too and ref was looking straight at it. and the defender knew it too.
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    If you think these refs don't influence games that's freaking insane. why would they care to help Tampa get that TD. The line was 8-10 all week and more money on buffalo. The game and vegas is intertwined. results are based on how much they can make. Don't tell me that's just how games are played and nothing fishy is going on. If you think that! That's freaking insane!!!! That TD by Evans was offensive pass interference too and ref was looking straight at it. and the defender knew it too.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:47 PM ET #8

    money dictates the world. Period
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    money dictates the world. Period
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:49 PM ET #9

    @ActionMagnet

     Agreed but that face mask was awful completely ripped his head to the side. The holding call was a total mugging as well. I thought the refs called a pretty clean game overall but maybe I’m just being biased 

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    @ActionMagnet

     Agreed but that face mask was awful completely ripped his head to the side. The holding call was a total mugging as well. I thought the refs called a pretty clean game overall but maybe I’m just being biased 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2023 - 11:52 PM ET #10

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     So is it possible the offender did this intentionally?   

    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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     So is it possible the offender did this intentionally?   

     
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    touch a sore subject here, but they suspend players for a knee in protest and allow the demise of Billion $$ fan bases over legalized gambling?

    its becoming the WWE and only people pushing back are the one who were on the lucky side

    Pure number don't me squat when the game is no longer pure

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    touch a sore subject here, but they suspend players for a knee in protest and allow the demise of Billion $$ fan bases over legalized gambling?

    its becoming the WWE and only people pushing back are the one who were on the lucky side

    Pure number don't me squat when the game is no longer pure

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 12:34 AM ET #12

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     Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call

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    @dibcompany

     Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 12:36 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SHMACK:

    @dibcompany  Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call

     

     

    an_roll_laugh..PI...Now u reaching...U blaming the refs..when u should be blaming the Bills..move along now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHMACK:

    @dibcompany  Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call

     

     

    an_roll_laugh..PI...Now u reaching...U blaming the refs..when u should be blaming the Bills..move along now

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 5:26 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by NutinButtLove:

    It's a joke but it's the way the sport is now. The refs can't wait to throw these flags to get the game closer. Unfortunately the players seem unable to grasp this concept and make it easy for them. They were legit penalties and totally unnecessary. Why was he still contacting that WR after not just 5 but at least 8 yards, some rookie running a short route? And why would you ever be going anywhere near a QBs head at any point but especially on a game ending sack? Refs are serving the TV networks and th league trying to turn every game into nailbiters. But the players are absolutely moronic for giving them such easy opportunities to do it. The Bills blow covers like this all the time. Does anyone remember the game they played vs Green Bay last year? They really don't like winning by double digits when the spread is 7.5-10. I think they already had one cover in that range this year with the Raiders we can't have 2 in the first half of the season now come on. It's definitely frustrating because TB did absolutely nothing all game and got the money. They had one field goal. The two TDs they got were gifts, a turnover in the red zone and 2 personal fouls on 4th down. Week 1 look at the yardage numbers vs Minnesota. They got 3 red zone turnovers that game and got three last week also (they still lost). Let's have a look at their schedule and see what teams on it are good at taking care of the football. They won't get these inexplicable covers without these fluky, lucky, very timely takeaways. They're a terrible team that has somehow been expensive to fade but I intend to keep doing it, a classic Thursday night rig job isn't gonna put me off, that's why these games are trash for betting on and only worth beer money wagers.


    Loved your writeup but your rationale for why the refs do what they do I don't buy. The refs are serving someone alright, they are not acting from personal bias or from a desire to keep the games close. What reason might they make unreasonable calls and noncalls especially at the end of games?

    The NFL is in collusion with their business partners in the gambling industry. Are all games bet evenly? Think again. Rodger Goodell is dealing with the devil and the owners are complicit and one day this will all bite them in their rear ends. 

    Anyone who promotes any form of censorship is an enemy of human freedom. Free America!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NutinButtLove:

    It's a joke but it's the way the sport is now. The refs can't wait to throw these flags to get the game closer. Unfortunately the players seem unable to grasp this concept and make it easy for them. They were legit penalties and totally unnecessary. Why was he still contacting that WR after not just 5 but at least 8 yards, some rookie running a short route? And why would you ever be going anywhere near a QBs head at any point but especially on a game ending sack? Refs are serving the TV networks and th league trying to turn every game into nailbiters. But the players are absolutely moronic for giving them such easy opportunities to do it. The Bills blow covers like this all the time. Does anyone remember the game they played vs Green Bay last year? They really don't like winning by double digits when the spread is 7.5-10. I think they already had one cover in that range this year with the Raiders we can't have 2 in the first half of the season now come on. It's definitely frustrating because TB did absolutely nothing all game and got the money. They had one field goal. The two TDs they got were gifts, a turnover in the red zone and 2 personal fouls on 4th down. Week 1 look at the yardage numbers vs Minnesota. They got 3 red zone turnovers that game and got three last week also (they still lost). Let's have a look at their schedule and see what teams on it are good at taking care of the football. They won't get these inexplicable covers without these fluky, lucky, very timely takeaways. They're a terrible team that has somehow been expensive to fade but I intend to keep doing it, a classic Thursday night rig job isn't gonna put me off, that's why these games are trash for betting on and only worth beer money wagers.


    Loved your writeup but your rationale for why the refs do what they do I don't buy. The refs are serving someone alright, they are not acting from personal bias or from a desire to keep the games close. What reason might they make unreasonable calls and noncalls especially at the end of games?

    The NFL is in collusion with their business partners in the gambling industry. Are all games bet evenly? Think again. Rodger Goodell is dealing with the devil and the owners are complicit and one day this will all bite them in their rear ends. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 6:08 AM ET #15

    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl.

    They have other jobs.

    They aren't all that good most of the time.

    People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.

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    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl.

    They have other jobs.

    They aren't all that good most of the time.

    People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 8:06 AM ET #16

    That has always miffed me….. why aren’t refs full time these days…. Everyone else in the league is.   And there is plenty of money…. This has always struck me as odd… esp in the last 20 years.     

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    That has always miffed me….. why aren’t refs full time these days…. Everyone else in the league is.   And there is plenty of money…. This has always struck me as odd… esp in the last 20 years.     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 8:19 AM ET #17

    It’s funny when people lose money they call it rigged. Bottom line it was too many points. You leave yourself wide open for the back door cover 

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    It’s funny when people lose money they call it rigged. Bottom line it was too many points. You leave yourself wide open for the back door cover 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 8:20 AM ET #18

    What ever happened to the MODS policy on proving another forum on this foolishness and enforcing it?

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    What ever happened to the MODS policy on proving another forum on this foolishness and enforcing it?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mskeets:

    That has always miffed me….. why aren’t refs full time these days…. Everyone else in the league is.   And there is plenty of money…. This has always struck me as odd… esp in the last 20 years.

    https://www.footballzebras.com/2023/06/officiating-crews-for-the-2023-season/

    Every year I seem to post this site here at covers. Look at all these guy's real "occupations. It's mind blowing that the nfl doesn't find full time guys and pay em more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mskeets:

    That has always miffed me….. why aren’t refs full time these days…. Everyone else in the league is.   And there is plenty of money…. This has always struck me as odd… esp in the last 20 years.

    https://www.footballzebras.com/2023/06/officiating-crews-for-the-2023-season/

    Every year I seem to post this site here at covers. Look at all these guy's real "occupations. It's mind blowing that the nfl doesn't find full time guys and pay em more

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2023 - 4:41 PM ET #20

    I don't know what is worse .... someone who thinks all the games are rigged  ... or someone who thinks none of the games are rigged.

    There is no doubt it happens in certain games.  

    Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way
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    I don't know what is worse .... someone who thinks all the games are rigged  ... or someone who thinks none of the games are rigged.

    There is no doubt it happens in certain games.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2023 - 1:24 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by SHMACK: @dibcompany  Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call     ..PI...Now u reaching...U blaming the refs..when u should be blaming the Bills..move along now
    players rig games lol refs are the scapegoats 

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by SHMACK: @dibcompany  Exactly!! I seen Evans clearly push off!! No call     ..PI...Now u reaching...U blaming the refs..when u should be blaming the Bills..move along now
    players rig games lol refs are the scapegoats 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2023 - 1:26 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl. They have other jobs. They aren't all that good most of the time. People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.
    here we go again. i had tampa so peace_5  obviously they had no chance to cover until your realize is rigged an_happybounce everytime the bills got to midfield they played dumb 

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl. They have other jobs. They aren't all that good most of the time. People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.
    here we go again. i had tampa so peace_5  obviously they had no chance to cover until your realize is rigged an_happybounce everytime the bills got to midfield they played dumb 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2023 - 1:26 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    What ever happened to the MODS policy on proving another forum on this foolishness and enforcing it?
    this isn't the thread for you. move along fanboy 

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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    What ever happened to the MODS policy on proving another forum on this foolishness and enforcing it?
    this isn't the thread for you. move along fanboy 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl. They have other jobs. They aren't all that good most of the time. People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.

    Everything you've just stated above I agree 100%. So let's ask, don't you think that's a  convenient narrative to say oh these refs aren't full time employees? Sure for 5 to 6 month of the year, NFL football is being played. However, you mean to tell me the NFL that's worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, can't just say okay we're paying these officials full time? It's not like they don't have the money to do so. So instead of doing right for the integrity of the game, let's just keep saying well our officials are part time. They have other jobs as well. Well that doesn't cut it does it? It's not like the NFL can't pay money and make these full time employees. 

    This is so we have debates and discussions about this so the people that are on the other side, can keep using this argument stating oh the refs have other jobs as well. IT'S THE NFL.........NFL =$$$$$$$$$$$$$  Make it right for the integrity of the game, but they don't want to because of the control of how it's set up right now. The REFS not the players control the games. Like it or not that's a FACT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Refs aren't full time employees of the nfl. They have other jobs. They aren't all that good most of the time. People have to stop looking for out of this world reasons to put blame on their losing wagers.

    Everything you've just stated above I agree 100%. So let's ask, don't you think that's a  convenient narrative to say oh these refs aren't full time employees? Sure for 5 to 6 month of the year, NFL football is being played. However, you mean to tell me the NFL that's worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, can't just say okay we're paying these officials full time? It's not like they don't have the money to do so. So instead of doing right for the integrity of the game, let's just keep saying well our officials are part time. They have other jobs as well. Well that doesn't cut it does it? It's not like the NFL can't pay money and make these full time employees. 

    This is so we have debates and discussions about this so the people that are on the other side, can keep using this argument stating oh the refs have other jobs as well. IT'S THE NFL.........NFL =$$$$$$$$$$$$$  Make it right for the integrity of the game, but they don't want to because of the control of how it's set up right now. The REFS not the players control the games. Like it or not that's a FACT!!!

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2023 - 7:55 AM ET #25

    @Tressel33

     I agree 100%. The nfl should dish out the money and make refs full time.

    Give em extra training and understanding of the rules all off season. Have simulated games.

    Have a union for the refs like the players do.

    Health insurance. 

    Give people an incentive to actually want to become a referee.

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    @Tressel33

     I agree 100%. The nfl should dish out the money and make refs full time.

    Give em extra training and understanding of the rules all off season. Have simulated games.

    Have a union for the refs like the players do.

    Health insurance. 

    Give people an incentive to actually want to become a referee.

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