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    I still can’t get over BILLS play calling on 3rd, 4th and short

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    Not using Josh Allen’s legs or a single roll out with those weapons and consistently choosing to run up the middle into the heart and strength of the KC defense? the predictable calls by the Bills on those 3rd and 4th and short, basically telegraphing each play was coaching malpractice. 

    You have to be sick to your stomach losing the way they lost this game. 

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    Not using Josh Allen’s legs or a single roll out with those weapons and consistently choosing to run up the middle into the heart and strength of the KC defense? the predictable calls by the Bills on those 3rd and 4th and short, basically telegraphing each play was coaching malpractice. 

    You have to be sick to your stomach losing the way they lost this game. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2025 - 11:37 PM ET #2

    McDermott is Andy Reid's bitch in the post season.

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    McDermott is Andy Reid's bitch in the post season.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2025 - 11:38 PM ET #3

    Cook 13 Rushes 85 Yards 6.5 YPC

    Allen 11 Rushes 39 Yards 3.5 YPC 

    Another brutal loss for the Bills. 

     

    The momentum shift in the stadium was palpable after they didn’t get that first two point conversion in the second quarter. Didn’t get that other fourth down and the chiefs marched down and scored right there instead of punting it. Or calling a better play, you’re right, the play calling was atrocious. Just look at the numbers above. Why not cook the rock. They put Davis in there and he fumble it on his first carry. It’s like the Bills took a page out of the ravens playbook from last weekend.

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    Cook 13 Rushes 85 Yards 6.5 YPC

    Allen 11 Rushes 39 Yards 3.5 YPC 

    Another brutal loss for the Bills. 

     

    The momentum shift in the stadium was palpable after they didn’t get that first two point conversion in the second quarter. Didn’t get that other fourth down and the chiefs marched down and scored right there instead of punting it. Or calling a better play, you’re right, the play calling was atrocious. Just look at the numbers above. Why not cook the rock. They put Davis in there and he fumble it on his first carry. It’s like the Bills took a page out of the ravens playbook from last weekend.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2025 - 11:43 PM ET #4

    Seriously,  does McDermott look like the kind of guy to beat Reid....

    Does Seriani look like the kind of guy beat Reid ???

     

    Sometimes,  you guys just need to pay attention to what's in front of you  ??

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    Seriously,  does McDermott look like the kind of guy to beat Reid....

    Does Seriani look like the kind of guy beat Reid ???

     

    Sometimes,  you guys just need to pay attention to what's in front of you  ??

     
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    isnt it wild how tony romo was able to call exactly were the chiefs were going to run on two of the biggest plays yet mcdermott, a defensive coach - the reason they call such conservative plays on offence - who had a week to prepare, was not able to have his guys ready to stop either of them? as the average fan just watching you forget that reid loves calling a mahomes roll out and having him either pass or run on those run the clock out situations, but mcdermott, whose job it is to know these things was just as clueless.

     

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    isnt it wild how tony romo was able to call exactly were the chiefs were going to run on two of the biggest plays yet mcdermott, a defensive coach - the reason they call such conservative plays on offence - who had a week to prepare, was not able to have his guys ready to stop either of them? as the average fan just watching you forget that reid loves calling a mahomes roll out and having him either pass or run on those run the clock out situations, but mcdermott, whose job it is to know these things was just as clueless.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2025 - 11:46 PM ET #6

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     Vic Fangio AND Kellen Moore are major Upgrades for Iggles an_light

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     Vic Fangio AND Kellen Moore are major Upgrades for Iggles an_light

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2025 - 11:46 PM ET #7

    Cook was cooking them.. but they had to run the obvious QB sneaks 

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    Cook was cooking them.. but they had to run the obvious QB sneaks 

     
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    THE SCRIPT DUDE WHO CARES

    josh allen is not the main actor...it is KC and mahomes...and 3 peat....get that thru ur head...bet with the script

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    THE SCRIPT DUDE WHO CARES

    josh allen is not the main actor...it is KC and mahomes...and 3 peat....get that thru ur head...bet with the script

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:

    Cook 13 Rushes 85 Yards 6.5 YPC Allen 11 Rushes 39 Yards 3.5 YPC  Another brutal loss for the Bills.    The momentum shift in the stadium was palpable after they didn’t get that first two point conversion in the second quarter. Didn’t get that other fourth down and the chiefs marched down and scored right there instead of punting it. Or calling a better play, you’re right, the play calling was atrocious. Just look at the numbers above. Why not cook the rock. They put Davis in there and he fumble it on his first carry. It’s like the Bills took a page out of the ravens playbook from last weekend.
    its crazy, cook is a beast dude is so fast and twitchy just like his brother once was and yet they still don't run him enough

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    Cook 13 Rushes 85 Yards 6.5 YPC Allen 11 Rushes 39 Yards 3.5 YPC  Another brutal loss for the Bills.    The momentum shift in the stadium was palpable after they didn’t get that first two point conversion in the second quarter. Didn’t get that other fourth down and the chiefs marched down and scored right there instead of punting it. Or calling a better play, you’re right, the play calling was atrocious. Just look at the numbers above. Why not cook the rock. They put Davis in there and he fumble it on his first carry. It’s like the Bills took a page out of the ravens playbook from last weekend.
    its crazy, cook is a beast dude is so fast and twitchy just like his brother once was and yet they still don't run him enough

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggins:

    isnt it wild how tony romo was able to call exactly were the chiefs were going to run on two of the biggest plays yet mcdermott, a defensive coach - the reason they call such conservative plays on offence - who had a week to prepare, was not able to have his guys ready to stop either of them? as the average fan just watching you forget that reid loves calling a mahomes roll out and having him either pass or run on those run the clock out situations, but mcdermott, whose job it is to know these things was just as clueless.

    I knew it as well. Kirk Cousins could’ve ran and picked up that first down. There was no one within 10 yards. He should be shit canned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggins:

    isnt it wild how tony romo was able to call exactly were the chiefs were going to run on two of the biggest plays yet mcdermott, a defensive coach - the reason they call such conservative plays on offence - who had a week to prepare, was not able to have his guys ready to stop either of them? as the average fan just watching you forget that reid loves calling a mahomes roll out and having him either pass or run on those run the clock out situations, but mcdermott, whose job it is to know these things was just as clueless.

    I knew it as well. Kirk Cousins could’ve ran and picked up that first down. There was no one within 10 yards. He should be shit canned.

     
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    Unbelievable buffalo always finds ways to lose. They should have won this game or for sure covered +1.5. In a close contested game, it's about the key plays.l and buffalo was on the opposite side of all key plays

     

    - 2 failed 2 point conversion while KC got their 1 try for the 2 point conversion. If they kicked the extra point both times, complete 1 of the 2 point try, stopped KC on their 2 point try, Buffalo would lose by 1 

     

    - 4th and inches and get stopped on another Allen sneak . Why keep calling the same QB sneak on short yardage? Maybe roll Allen out or give it to the RB? WTF

     

    -4th and 5 and Kincaid couldn't even catch the ball that was not contested 

     

    - And of course the game changing call always goes KC way. Review clearly shows the ball hit the ground close to halftime yet the refs still said it was a catch leading to a KC touchdown.

     

    Yes I lost big on Buffalo+1.5, but I feel extremely pissed because I think they should have covered 

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    Unbelievable buffalo always finds ways to lose. They should have won this game or for sure covered +1.5. In a close contested game, it's about the key plays.l and buffalo was on the opposite side of all key plays

     

    - 2 failed 2 point conversion while KC got their 1 try for the 2 point conversion. If they kicked the extra point both times, complete 1 of the 2 point try, stopped KC on their 2 point try, Buffalo would lose by 1 

     

    - 4th and inches and get stopped on another Allen sneak . Why keep calling the same QB sneak on short yardage? Maybe roll Allen out or give it to the RB? WTF

     

    -4th and 5 and Kincaid couldn't even catch the ball that was not contested 

     

    - And of course the game changing call always goes KC way. Review clearly shows the ball hit the ground close to halftime yet the refs still said it was a catch leading to a KC touchdown.

     

    Yes I lost big on Buffalo+1.5, but I feel extremely pissed because I think they should have covered 

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    McDermott doth suck. an_lightening His seat just heated up again. At times he doesn't play to his strength for sure. an_speechless 

    The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific. The Bills are the Bills, what more can I say??? To follow them is to live your days in misery. 


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    McDermott doth suck. an_lightening His seat just heated up again. At times he doesn't play to his strength for sure. an_speechless 

    The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific. The Bills are the Bills, what more can I say??? To follow them is to live your days in misery. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobob89074:

    The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific.

    I was thinking the same thing. Looked like the receiver got the the first down and the refs spot the ball short. Stupid coach didn't even challenge it thinking they could pick up a few inches. Instead they got stopped, turn the ball over to KC who then marched down to score a TD and 2 point conversion. That was the the play that screwed Buf 

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    The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific.

    I was thinking the same thing. Looked like the receiver got the the first down and the refs spot the ball short. Stupid coach didn't even challenge it thinking they could pick up a few inches. Instead they got stopped, turn the ball over to KC who then marched down to score a TD and 2 point conversion. That was the the play that screwed Buf 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobob89074:

    McDermott doth suck.  His seat just heated up again. At times he doesn't play to his strength for sure.  The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific. The Bills are the Bills, what more can I say??? To follow them is to live your days in misery.

    Yes. Kincaid picked up that first down on 3rd and 3. Same official spotted it short.

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    McDermott doth suck.  His seat just heated up again. At times he doesn't play to his strength for sure.  The spot by the refs on the reception prior to the 4th and 1 (even being needed) was horrific. The Bills are the Bills, what more can I say??? To follow them is to live your days in misery.

    Yes. Kincaid picked up that first down on 3rd and 3. Same official spotted it short.

     
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    Crazy 2 back to back plays the refs spot the ball short. Then add in the "catch" that hit the ground. These plays both led to KC touchdowns and killed the bills momentum. I hate KC and usually bet against them. But it seems like the league will make sure they win. Hard to not take KC in the Superbowl 

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    Crazy 2 back to back plays the refs spot the ball short. Then add in the "catch" that hit the ground. These plays both led to KC touchdowns and killed the bills momentum. I hate KC and usually bet against them. But it seems like the league will make sure they win. Hard to not take KC in the Superbowl 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1PointShaved:

    McDermott is Andy Reid's bitch in the post season.

     

    Who isn't Andy Reids bitch, he's made a bitch out of the entire country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1PointShaved:

    McDermott is Andy Reid's bitch in the post season.

     

    Who isn't Andy Reids bitch, he's made a bitch out of the entire country.

     
     
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    Also I thought that it was weird that the refs didn't even measure both plays to see. Normally when it is so close, they at least measure. Seems like they were determined to make sure it was short lol

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    Also I thought that it was weird that the refs didn't even measure both plays to see. Normally when it is so close, they at least measure. Seems like they were determined to make sure it was short lol

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