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    In the late games and the primetime game last night, did vegas hand the money over to the public?

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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 1:47 PM ET #1

    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......
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    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 1:53 PM ET #2

    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!
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    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by schboy23:

    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!

    who's everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by schboy23:

    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!

    who's everyone
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 1:57 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by schboy23:

    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!

    It's actually pretty split
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    Quote Originally Posted by schboy23:

    Everyone is on Balimore to cover!

    It's actually pretty split
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......
    If tons of sharp money comes in on BAL then yes, the public just might win tonight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......
    If tons of sharp money comes in on BAL then yes, the public just might win tonight.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 2:02 PM ET #7

    Covers shows 50/50 split. I know that's not real time stats but it's usually close...
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    Covers shows 50/50 split. I know that's not real time stats but it's usually close...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 2:06 PM ET #8

    Split my ass - scan through the threads
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    Split my ass - scan through the threads
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 2:26 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......

    Giants won and covered last night because they were the better team.  Panthers won and covered last night because they were the better team.  

    Cardinals cover and win tonight because they are the better team.  The lines are set based on ppg, injuries, and public "perception".  Bookies don't know the outcome.  They have a very very good idea on what team has the highest statistical chance of winning.  They want as close to even action as possible. 

    And, the "consensus data" you see posted on covers is not a true, 100% real time representation of the actual money wagered world wide on each side.  Of course, that is what we're supposed to think.  .  


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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    So with 65% on the giants to cover the spread and about 71% on them to win straight up, the public gets it all?! Better yet the public cashed big on the over as well. On top of that, carolina who was about a 64% spread favorite and a 56% money line favoite, wins both as well thus handing the money to the public again. Very suprising here considering these games were basically primetime games. So on to tonites game. Is the public who is all over the cards, gonna win the money AGAIN? I cant see that happening. If it does, its christmas in october. Call me crazy all you want but thos eof us who watch all the games see the shady stuff that goes on that none of us can explain.......I see baltimore covering tonite. Good luck to the cards backers, maybe im wrong. I know i was last nite in backing philly.......

    Giants won and covered last night because they were the better team.  Panthers won and covered last night because they were the better team.  

    Cardinals cover and win tonight because they are the better team.  The lines are set based on ppg, injuries, and public "perception".  Bookies don't know the outcome.  They have a very very good idea on what team has the highest statistical chance of winning.  They want as close to even action as possible. 

    And, the "consensus data" you see posted on covers is not a true, 100% real time representation of the actual money wagered world wide on each side.  Of course, that is what we're supposed to think.  .  


     
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    The better team....ok......what does that mean? U mean to tell me that in every game played, the "better" team wins the game? I understand it'sonnow, you want to play the straight and narrow angle thinking that games are just played straight up but no way bud.  Watch the Julio jones no td call when it was evident he got over the plane. Atlanta hits that and 82% of the public win. Vegas wasn't having it. How bout last week in the Bears lions game witht the golden Tate supposed td that got reversed? You really buy all that crap about the rule and how it differs here and there? Detroit needed to cover that game because they hadn't covered all year and the Bears had two gifts givens to them already in the KC and Oakland game. As for the Giants game, I'm not so sure New York is the better team.....you think what you want but in the Carolina game, two dropped tds. And a kick out of bounds by philly? Haaaaaaaa. That cost them 17 points. Oh yeah the missed fg that would have made it 2, thus getting philly under the number. You say coincidence, I say nope. The garbage fg at the end of the game in the Jets game got them the cover when almost 70% were on the pats. Coincidence.....nope! We can beg to differ though. If you bet games thinking the better team wins straight up every week, you are prolly broke. If you don't think the refs have a hand in some of these games, you are nuts. Also if you don't think players are aware of these things you are nuts too. Aaron Rodgers goes how many home games and consecutive passes without an int, then, against San diego, San Diego, he throws two and fumbles? What happened to san diego against Oakland, the same Oakland team that lost to the Bears?! Open your eyes man. I could go on and on. Good luck though.
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    The better team....ok......what does that mean? U mean to tell me that in every game played, the "better" team wins the game? I understand it'sonnow, you want to play the straight and narrow angle thinking that games are just played straight up but no way bud.  Watch the Julio jones no td call when it was evident he got over the plane. Atlanta hits that and 82% of the public win. Vegas wasn't having it. How bout last week in the Bears lions game witht the golden Tate supposed td that got reversed? You really buy all that crap about the rule and how it differs here and there? Detroit needed to cover that game because they hadn't covered all year and the Bears had two gifts givens to them already in the KC and Oakland game. As for the Giants game, I'm not so sure New York is the better team.....you think what you want but in the Carolina game, two dropped tds. And a kick out of bounds by philly? Haaaaaaaa. That cost them 17 points. Oh yeah the missed fg that would have made it 2, thus getting philly under the number. You say coincidence, I say nope. The garbage fg at the end of the game in the Jets game got them the cover when almost 70% were on the pats. Coincidence.....nope! We can beg to differ though. If you bet games thinking the better team wins straight up every week, you are prolly broke. If you don't think the refs have a hand in some of these games, you are nuts. Also if you don't think players are aware of these things you are nuts too. Aaron Rodgers goes how many home games and consecutive passes without an int, then, against San diego, San Diego, he throws two and fumbles? What happened to san diego against Oakland, the same Oakland team that lost to the Bears?! Open your eyes man. I could go on and on. Good luck though.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 7:14 PM ET #11

    Oh and my data does not come from COVERS. I'm smarter than that. Come on now. It's 50/50 on tonites game.
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    Oh and my data does not come from COVERS. I'm smarter than that. Come on now. It's 50/50 on tonites game.
     
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    You said "split your ass", he he he. That was funny.
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    Split my ass - scan through the threads

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    You said "split your ass", he he he. That was funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by thenerveagent:

    Split my ass - scan through the threads

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    The better team....ok......what does that mean? U mean to tell me that in every game played, the "better" team wins the game? I understand it'sonnow, you want to play the straight and narrow angle thinking that games are just played straight up but no way bud.  Watch the Julio jones no td call when it was evident he got over the plane. Atlanta hits that and 82% of the public win. Vegas wasn't having it. How bout last week in the Bears lions game witht the golden Tate supposed td that got reversed? You really buy all that crap about the rule and how it differs here and there? Detroit needed to cover that game because they hadn't covered all year and the Bears had two gifts givens to them already in the KC and Oakland game. As for the Giants game, I'm not so sure New York is the better team.....you think what you want but in the Carolina game, two dropped tds. And a kick out of bounds by philly? Haaaaaaaa. That cost them 17 points. Oh yeah the missed fg that would have made it 2, thus getting philly under the number. You say coincidence, I say nope. The garbage fg at the end of the game in the Jets game got them the cover when almost 70% were on the pats. Coincidence.....nope! We can beg to differ though. If you bet games thinking the better team wins straight up every week, you are prolly broke. If you don't think the refs have a hand in some of these games, you are nuts. Also if you don't think players are aware of these things you are nuts too. Aaron Rodgers goes how many home games and consecutive passes without an int, then, against San diego, San Diego, he throws two and fumbles? What happened to san diego against Oakland, the same Oakland team that lost to the Bears?! Open your eyes man. I could go on and on. Good luck though.
    Yup I agree. I've seen many "coincidences" where a team scores in the last second to affect the spread and/or total or makes a stupid play to not cover. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    The better team....ok......what does that mean? U mean to tell me that in every game played, the "better" team wins the game? I understand it'sonnow, you want to play the straight and narrow angle thinking that games are just played straight up but no way bud.  Watch the Julio jones no td call when it was evident he got over the plane. Atlanta hits that and 82% of the public win. Vegas wasn't having it. How bout last week in the Bears lions game witht the golden Tate supposed td that got reversed? You really buy all that crap about the rule and how it differs here and there? Detroit needed to cover that game because they hadn't covered all year and the Bears had two gifts givens to them already in the KC and Oakland game. As for the Giants game, I'm not so sure New York is the better team.....you think what you want but in the Carolina game, two dropped tds. And a kick out of bounds by philly? Haaaaaaaa. That cost them 17 points. Oh yeah the missed fg that would have made it 2, thus getting philly under the number. You say coincidence, I say nope. The garbage fg at the end of the game in the Jets game got them the cover when almost 70% were on the pats. Coincidence.....nope! We can beg to differ though. If you bet games thinking the better team wins straight up every week, you are prolly broke. If you don't think the refs have a hand in some of these games, you are nuts. Also if you don't think players are aware of these things you are nuts too. Aaron Rodgers goes how many home games and consecutive passes without an int, then, against San diego, San Diego, he throws two and fumbles? What happened to san diego against Oakland, the same Oakland team that lost to the Bears?! Open your eyes man. I could go on and on. Good luck though.
    Yup I agree. I've seen many "coincidences" where a team scores in the last second to affect the spread and/or total or makes a stupid play to not cover. Lol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2015 - 7:32 PM ET #14

    vegasinsider has it 60%balt.
     
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    vegasinsider has it 60%balt.
     
     
     
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    Vegas insider is full of it.....
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    Vegas insider is full of it.....
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