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    JAC it up !!! #1 pass defense is 3-0 in playoff games ...NFLResearch

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    JAC it up !!!  #1 pass defense is 3-0 in playoff games

    @NFLResearch

    Tom Brady: 286.1 pass YPG this season (1st in NFL)
    Jaguars Defense: 169.9 pass YPG allowed this season (1st in NFL)

    This is the 4th meeting between the #1 passer and #1 pass defense in a playoff game since 1990

    The #1 pass defense is 3-0 in those games

    11:46 AM · Jan 17, 2018

    QBs Quoting 

    ****"This is the biggest challenge we've faced all year." 

    Tom Brady's weekly interview with KirkAndCallahan



    this game should've been the Super Bowl 

    Boogeyman vs Hoodie 

    Boogeyman ....Tom Coughlin once again meet in what should be ...Hoodie last game.

    and Boogeyman going get YOU..again...

    you can run but you can't hide
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    JAC it up !!!  #1 pass defense is 3-0 in playoff games

    @NFLResearch

    Tom Brady: 286.1 pass YPG this season (1st in NFL)
    Jaguars Defense: 169.9 pass YPG allowed this season (1st in NFL)

    This is the 4th meeting between the #1 passer and #1 pass defense in a playoff game since 1990

    The #1 pass defense is 3-0 in those games

    11:46 AM · Jan 17, 2018

    QBs Quoting 

    ****"This is the biggest challenge we've faced all year." 

    Tom Brady's weekly interview with KirkAndCallahan



    this game should've been the Super Bowl 

    Boogeyman vs Hoodie 

    Boogeyman ....Tom Coughlin once again meet in what should be ...Hoodie last game.

    and Boogeyman going get YOU..again...

    you can run but you can't hide
    from the Boogeyman 



     
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    The only thing that bothers me about doing anything large with the Jaguars is think the numbers are skewed.  AFC South QBs, the mess in Houston other than Watson weeks, whatever Indy was doing, and Mariotta.  These guys all suck.


    Then they played AFC Central which has crap QBs except for Big Ben.  Blaine Gabbert, Garrapolo, Wilson, etc. all lit them up.  So worry the numbers are skewed as very few games against actual NFL QBs.  I'm taking them to cover as think both O-Line and D 7 are physical enough to keep it close but, not going large as do think their success is largely skewed.


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    The only thing that bothers me about doing anything large with the Jaguars is think the numbers are skewed.  AFC South QBs, the mess in Houston other than Watson weeks, whatever Indy was doing, and Mariotta.  These guys all suck.


    Then they played AFC Central which has crap QBs except for Big Ben.  Blaine Gabbert, Garrapolo, Wilson, etc. all lit them up.  So worry the numbers are skewed as very few games against actual NFL QBs.  I'm taking them to cover as think both O-Line and D 7 are physical enough to keep it close but, not going large as do think their success is largely skewed.


     
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    Attention MNFloser:

    Playing in the AFC East is hardly a challenging environment for NE.  Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Tyrod Taylor and Jay Cutler are not exactly fantasy football favorites.  That might result in NE's DEF also being overrated.
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    Attention MNFloser:

    Playing in the AFC East is hardly a challenging environment for NE.  Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Tyrod Taylor and Jay Cutler are not exactly fantasy football favorites.  That might result in NE's DEF also being overrated.
     
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    Big Ben threw for 469yds, 5td, 110 rtg. Jags ran into a real qb, and got ripped apart.
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    ^96 of those yards, and 3 td's were on 4th downs. Not taking away anything from Big Ben, those were big time throws in high leverage situations. Also, AB and LB made tremendous catches with guys drapped all over them.

    My take away...you gotta believe that it's highly unlikely that the Pats will find themselves trailing in this game from start to finish. You gotta think that they won't be down by 14 or 21 points at any point but maybe...who knows.

    Will the Pats panick if so? No chance.

    How many 4th down conversions will Bill attempt? He plays ball by the book, he's easily the best situational coach in the NFL. He'll punt or kick a fg 97% of the time.

    I've never seen the Patriots leave points on the field. If they are in range, on 4th down they'll take 3. If it's 4th n short, that's another story. Brady actually runs a great QB sneak.

    The Jags did their job on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down vs Pitt, and they did it well.

    If it's a close game, Belichick won't play Madden Ball. He knows the importance of field position a hell of a lot more than Tomlin.

    IMO...I think Brady dinks and dunks all game long. I don't think we see as many long balls like we did from Big Ben.
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    ^96 of those yards, and 3 td's were on 4th downs. Not taking away anything from Big Ben, those were big time throws in high leverage situations. Also, AB and LB made tremendous catches with guys drapped all over them.

    My take away...you gotta believe that it's highly unlikely that the Pats will find themselves trailing in this game from start to finish. You gotta think that they won't be down by 14 or 21 points at any point but maybe...who knows.

    Will the Pats panick if so? No chance.

    How many 4th down conversions will Bill attempt? He plays ball by the book, he's easily the best situational coach in the NFL. He'll punt or kick a fg 97% of the time.

    I've never seen the Patriots leave points on the field. If they are in range, on 4th down they'll take 3. If it's 4th n short, that's another story. Brady actually runs a great QB sneak.

    The Jags did their job on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down vs Pitt, and they did it well.

    If it's a close game, Belichick won't play Madden Ball. He knows the importance of field position a hell of a lot more than Tomlin.

    IMO...I think Brady dinks and dunks all game long. I don't think we see as many long balls like we did from Big Ben.
     
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    @sac I was also gonna mention about that game how bad that defense was on 4th downs. That was just one of those games where every play was a 4th down play and every drive had to have a score. And the jags defense looked absolutely normal and average to me. They made some great plays that changed momentum in the game, but they were also being pushed around all the way up and down the field. Big Ben at one point didn’t miss a pass on 10+ attempts. This is the phase of the game that Brady can exploit, it’s possible for him to come away with a 100+ rtg at the end, and win. It probably won’t be 400yds but I think he’s gonna be effective. 
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    @sac I was also gonna mention about that game how bad that defense was on 4th downs. That was just one of those games where every play was a 4th down play and every drive had to have a score. And the jags defense looked absolutely normal and average to me. They made some great plays that changed momentum in the game, but they were also being pushed around all the way up and down the field. Big Ben at one point didn’t miss a pass on 10+ attempts. This is the phase of the game that Brady can exploit, it’s possible for him to come away with a 100+ rtg at the end, and win. It probably won’t be 400yds but I think he’s gonna be effective. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rr207:

    @sac I was also gonna mention about that game how bad that defense was on 4th downs. That was just one of those games where every play was a 4th down play and every drive had to have a score. And the jags defense looked absolutely normal and average to me. They made some great plays that changed momentum in the game, but they were also being pushed around all the way up and down the field. Big Ben at one point didn’t miss a pass on 10+ attempts. This is the phase of the game that Brady can exploit, it’s possible for him to come away with a 100+ rtg at the end, and win. It probably won’t be 400yds but I think he’s gonna be effective. 


    Brady and McDaniels are the epitome of "efficient"  

    Past history has shown that the only way to get Brady off of his game is pressure up the middle.

    A tough task indeed.

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    @sac I was also gonna mention about that game how bad that defense was on 4th downs. That was just one of those games where every play was a 4th down play and every drive had to have a score. And the jags defense looked absolutely normal and average to me. They made some great plays that changed momentum in the game, but they were also being pushed around all the way up and down the field. Big Ben at one point didn’t miss a pass on 10+ attempts. This is the phase of the game that Brady can exploit, it’s possible for him to come away with a 100+ rtg at the end, and win. It probably won’t be 400yds but I think he’s gonna be effective. 


    Brady and McDaniels are the epitome of "efficient"  

    Past history has shown that the only way to get Brady off of his game is pressure up the middle.

    A tough task indeed.

     
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    I wonder if Tom Coughlin knows that pressure up the gut gets Brady off his spot? An immobile QB is fresh meat to this front 7 of Jacksonville. If Gronk is chipped by a big body at the line of scrimmage, it could lead to a long day at the office for your precious boy...Coughlin will think up a wrinkle for that big person Gronk. This freak will be emasculated some way, some how. 

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    I wonder if Tom Coughlin knows that pressure up the gut gets Brady off his spot? An immobile QB is fresh meat to this front 7 of Jacksonville. If Gronk is chipped by a big body at the line of scrimmage, it could lead to a long day at the office for your precious boy...Coughlin will think up a wrinkle for that big person Gronk. This freak will be emasculated some way, some how. 

     
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    Jac must be looking at this game as if it were there
    Super Bowl Game.

    They will not be looking ahead!!

    If they win ..consider them to win the Super Bowl!!

    Hopefully there isn't any key injuries by the end of the weekend.

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    Jac must be looking at this game as if it were there
    Super Bowl Game.

    They will not be looking ahead!!

    If they win ..consider them to win the Super Bowl!!

    Hopefully there isn't any key injuries by the end of the weekend.

     
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    Oh he knows alright... he knows..

    He wouldnt have two super bowls wins vs Pats if he didnt know..
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Oh he knows alright... he knows..

    He wouldnt have two super bowls wins vs Pats if he didnt know..
     
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    Like Sac eluded too, 3 or 4 of Ben’s throws accounted for nearly 25% of his yardage production (maybe more, maybe less, I didn’t look it up) and each one of them had somewhat of a circus catch on the receiving end. Pitt simply has better skill players than NE and more of a vertical passing scheme. NE will not duplicate those plays because it’s just not in their DNA. Patsies will dink and dunk at a high percentage as they always do. Looking forward to this game and will be rooting hard for Jags whom I believe have a legit shot to keep it close.
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    Like Sac eluded too, 3 or 4 of Ben’s throws accounted for nearly 25% of his yardage production (maybe more, maybe less, I didn’t look it up) and each one of them had somewhat of a circus catch on the receiving end. Pitt simply has better skill players than NE and more of a vertical passing scheme. NE will not duplicate those plays because it’s just not in their DNA. Patsies will dink and dunk at a high percentage as they always do. Looking forward to this game and will be rooting hard for Jags whom I believe have a legit shot to keep it close.
     
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    #NFL teams are 462-231-2 (.667) last three seasons when throwing 0 INT. @jaguars 10-0 when Bortles has no INTs this season (2-6 otherwise). @patriots 8-2 with Brady throws no INTs (6-1 when he does).
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    #NFL teams are 462-231-2 (.667) last three seasons when throwing 0 INT. @jaguars 10-0 when Bortles has no INTs this season (2-6 otherwise). @patriots 8-2 with Brady throws no INTs (6-1 when he does).
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