I agree Allen looks pretty good but a closer look shows he has good games against bad teams and not so good against good teams. 130 yards passing against Baltimore and 180 against Houston both losses. Let's see how he does going forward when he actually plays a good team.
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@CanadaCup
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I agree Allen looks pretty good but a closer look shows he has good games against bad teams and not so good against good teams. 130 yards passing against Baltimore and 180 against Houston both losses. Let's see how he does going forward when he actually plays a good team.
He hasn't lost a fumble either (fumbled once). For a guy who the knock on has always been he's turnover prone, that's pretty remarkable, no TO's to this point, really for any QB through 7 games. Cooper is a big addition to this offense, already scored in his first game. Once again the AFC East belongs to the Bills, and it's not even close.
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He hasn't lost a fumble either (fumbled once). For a guy who the knock on has always been he's turnover prone, that's pretty remarkable, no TO's to this point, really for any QB through 7 games. Cooper is a big addition to this offense, already scored in his first game. Once again the AFC East belongs to the Bills, and it's not even close.
Fair point hunt but Josh didn't have a #1 receiver like he does now with Amari Cooper. It's opened up so many more opportunities now for Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, Coleman, Hollins, and Samuel. Amari Cooper brings proven production and experience to the Bills which will be needed against the Seahawks, Chiefs, 49ers, Lions.
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@thehuntman
Fair point hunt but Josh didn't have a #1 receiver like he does now with Amari Cooper. It's opened up so many more opportunities now for Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, Coleman, Hollins, and Samuel. Amari Cooper brings proven production and experience to the Bills which will be needed against the Seahawks, Chiefs, 49ers, Lions.
Considering Allen for MVP is the football equivalent of saying a guy like Michael Nylander of the Maple Leafs should win the Hart trophy in the NHL because he puts up good numbers against bad teams.
I'm an Allen fan but he went up against Lamar and got torched and vs Stroud and came up empty. Nobody pays attention when you put up big numbers against a Mason Rudolph led team...
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Considering Allen for MVP is the football equivalent of saying a guy like Michael Nylander of the Maple Leafs should win the Hart trophy in the NHL because he puts up good numbers against bad teams.
I'm an Allen fan but he went up against Lamar and got torched and vs Stroud and came up empty. Nobody pays attention when you put up big numbers against a Mason Rudolph led team...
Not to disagree with you but a QB has nothing to do what the other guy (QB) does on the other side that my friend is defence last time i checked a QB hasn't played both sides of the ball in my life time if it wasn't for Allen Buffalo would have been like the Jets in the last 5 years a five hundred team
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@Battalion74
Not to disagree with you but a QB has nothing to do what the other guy (QB) does on the other side that my friend is defence last time i checked a QB hasn't played both sides of the ball in my life time if it wasn't for Allen Buffalo would have been like the Jets in the last 5 years a five hundred team
He hasn't lost a fumble either (fumbled once). For a guy who the knock on has always been he's turnover prone, that's pretty remarkable, no TO's to this point, really for any QB through 7 games. Cooper is a big addition to this offense, already scored in his first game. Once again the AFC East belongs to the Bills, and it's not even close.
not sure where you're getting that from. he's fumbled 4 times, bills recovered 2 of them and lost 2 of them.
vs. Arizona
(5:33 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen sacked at ARZ 30 for -11 yards (R.Lopez). FUMBLES (R.Lopez) [R.Lopez], RECOVERED by ARZ-J.Jones at ARZ 29
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vs. Baltimore
(6:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) Direct snap to C.Samuel. J.Allen sacked at BUF 49 for -7 yards (K.Van Noy). FUMBLES (K.Van Noy), RECOVERED by BLT-K.Hamilton at BLT 48. K.Hamilton to BUF 44 for 8 yards (C.Samuel).
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Quote Originally Posted by mrusso:
He hasn't lost a fumble either (fumbled once). For a guy who the knock on has always been he's turnover prone, that's pretty remarkable, no TO's to this point, really for any QB through 7 games. Cooper is a big addition to this offense, already scored in his first game. Once again the AFC East belongs to the Bills, and it's not even close.
not sure where you're getting that from. he's fumbled 4 times, bills recovered 2 of them and lost 2 of them.
vs. Arizona
(5:33 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen sacked at ARZ 30 for -11 yards (R.Lopez). FUMBLES (R.Lopez) [R.Lopez], RECOVERED by ARZ-J.Jones at ARZ 29
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vs. Baltimore
(6:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) Direct snap to C.Samuel. J.Allen sacked at BUF 49 for -7 yards (K.Van Noy). FUMBLES (K.Van Noy), RECOVERED by BLT-K.Hamilton at BLT 48. K.Hamilton to BUF 44 for 8 yards (C.Samuel).
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