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    Line movement is bad for Steelers

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:02 PM ET #1

    Now at -110 +3.5 really would have liked to see that line trend toward +3 and +2.5. I’m on Steelers since this morning…

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    Now at -110 +3.5 really would have liked to see that line trend toward +3 and +2.5. I’m on Steelers since this morning…

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:12 PM ET #2

    I’m in agreement with you. I’m staying away but Vikings look like the play 

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    I’m in agreement with you. I’m staying away but Vikings look like the play 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:14 PM ET #3

    Looks like the play but why not…. Small

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    Looks like the play but why not…. Small

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:35 PM ET #4

    Gone against line movement and won half the time.. 

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Gone against line movement and won half the time.. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:39 PM ET #5

    Line movement is because Cook is playing

    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Line movement is because Cook is playing

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:47 PM ET #6

    Right now on Draft kings Pitt -120 Vikings even money 

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    Right now on Draft kings Pitt -120 Vikings even money 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:51 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Line movement is because Cook is playing

     

    Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Line movement is because Cook is playing

     

    Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:55 PM ET #8

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     Yup Vikings 

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    @Pro_Fball_Picks

     Yup Vikings 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:00 PM ET #9

    Line movement is wrong all the time.

    In this case, I hope it's right.

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    Line movement is wrong all the time.

    In this case, I hope it's right.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:10 PM ET #10

    Not wrong all the time.an_shake

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    Not wrong all the time.an_shake

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:17 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Line movement is because Cook is playing   Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.

     

    Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Line movement is because Cook is playing   Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.

     

    Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:18 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers.

     

    No it isn’t. The line rising to Vikings -4 would not be a death sentence for Pittsburgh backers, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks:

    The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers.

     

    No it isn’t. The line rising to Vikings -4 would not be a death sentence for Pittsburgh backers, lol.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:22 PM ET #13

    Not today, have you ever been in US stadium?

    Is nuts thats one factor Vikings line this high, I believe the line should be 5..Good luck!

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    Not today, have you ever been in US stadium?

    Is nuts thats one factor Vikings line this high, I believe the line should be 5..Good luck!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 9:04 PM ET #14

    Line movement is the most important indicator of professional sports betters. It’s more important than who’s injured, who’s playing, which coach has covid, who they lost to last week, etc. For some reason people that don’t know how to read it or don’t want to put time into it just say it doesn’t matter and any bet can win/lose. 

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    Line movement is the most important indicator of professional sports betters. It’s more important than who’s injured, who’s playing, which coach has covid, who they lost to last week, etc. For some reason people that don’t know how to read it or don’t want to put time into it just say it doesn’t matter and any bet can win/lose. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 9:40 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman17:

    Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman17:

    Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

     

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 9:52 PM ET #16

    I said yup Vikings.  It

    was a bad line movement on a prime time game just accept it and move on

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    I said yup Vikings.  It

    was a bad line movement on a prime time game just accept it and move on

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 9:52 PM ET #17

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     Sorry not to mean cocky means that anything can happen and cut your losses and move on

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    @noclue

     Sorry not to mean cocky means that anything can happen and cut your losses and move on

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 9:58 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    Not wrong all the time.

    That's not what I meant

    I guess you missed this part

    IN THIS CASE I HOPE IT'S RIGHT

    GOOD LUCK ON YOUR 22.5 DOUBLE OR NOTHING an_shake

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7out:

    Not wrong all the time.

    That's not what I meant

    I guess you missed this part

    IN THIS CASE I HOPE IT'S RIGHT

    GOOD LUCK ON YOUR 22.5 DOUBLE OR NOTHING an_shake

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 10:01 PM ET #19

    Anything can happen.  Betting and pro trading.  Risk mgmt I risked too much today although big win

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    Anything can happen.  Betting and pro trading.  Risk mgmt I risked too much today although big win

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 10:09 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman17:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Line movement is because Cook is playing   Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.   Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

    Exactly. In this case it looks to be right but it's wrong all the time. 

    In Week 13 there were only 3 games that moved a full 1.5 points from the opening numbers. All 3 of them lost both ATS and SU.

    The Bengals opened at 1.5 and went off at 3. They proceeded to get killed.

    The Ravens opened at 3 and went off at 4.5. That's a massive move across those numbers. They lost SU.

    The Niners opened at 2 and went off at 3.5. They lost the game badly.

    Source is bookies.com and these were the only full 1.5 point line moves.

    0-3 ATS

    0-3 ML

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishman17:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Fball_Picks: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Line movement is because Cook is playing   Cook was announced as playing at 10am. The line has been trending towards 4 all day. Don’t be surprised if it hits 4 before kick which is a death sentence to Pittsburg backers. Just my opinion after 25 years of this.   Like the line movement is indicative of who is going to win....people still believe there are people out there that have some sort gift to pick games.....their pick, my pick, and anyone else's pick ( spread betting ) has the same chance of winning.

    Exactly. In this case it looks to be right but it's wrong all the time. 

    In Week 13 there were only 3 games that moved a full 1.5 points from the opening numbers. All 3 of them lost both ATS and SU.

    The Bengals opened at 1.5 and went off at 3. They proceeded to get killed.

    The Ravens opened at 3 and went off at 4.5. That's a massive move across those numbers. They lost SU.

    The Niners opened at 2 and went off at 3.5. They lost the game badly.

    Source is bookies.com and these were the only full 1.5 point line moves.

    0-3 ATS

    0-3 ML

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 10:40 PM ET #21

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     Anything can happen and all we can manage risk until then we are all gambling…

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     Anything can happen and all we can manage risk until then we are all gambling…

     
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     You are making a couple of mistakes with sweeping generalizations. You are mentioning opening line vs closing line which has nothing to do with what I am talking about. If you learn to diagnose line movement in situational forms such as tonight’s game (Steelers off a big win against a super over valued ravens team in the eyes of the public, Vikings off a lose to the lions which literally crushed the public last week due to teasers, Steelers with the better overall record, -3 juiced to $125 all day to scare off public betters who won’t lay that, the line moving to -3.5 mid day and trending towards -4 to scare off more public, etc.). These situations aren’t available every week never mind every game - another that comes to mind recently was the 49ers vs Rams a few weeks back and the Patriots going to +2.5 the other night against the Bills.

    The second mistake you are making is you are saying “line movement loses all the time”. Well, of course it does? If it didn’t then this would be the easiest investment known to man and we would all be filthy rich. The key is to learn to diagnose line movement that matters vs what doesn’t. This is also another reason recreational betters lose 99% of the time - They see a post like this, go into Sunday, bet against the line movement, and go 1-3 on the day and give up. 

    Anyways GL

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     You are making a couple of mistakes with sweeping generalizations. You are mentioning opening line vs closing line which has nothing to do with what I am talking about. If you learn to diagnose line movement in situational forms such as tonight’s game (Steelers off a big win against a super over valued ravens team in the eyes of the public, Vikings off a lose to the lions which literally crushed the public last week due to teasers, Steelers with the better overall record, -3 juiced to $125 all day to scare off public betters who won’t lay that, the line moving to -3.5 mid day and trending towards -4 to scare off more public, etc.). These situations aren’t available every week never mind every game - another that comes to mind recently was the 49ers vs Rams a few weeks back and the Patriots going to +2.5 the other night against the Bills.

    The second mistake you are making is you are saying “line movement loses all the time”. Well, of course it does? If it didn’t then this would be the easiest investment known to man and we would all be filthy rich. The key is to learn to diagnose line movement that matters vs what doesn’t. This is also another reason recreational betters lose 99% of the time - They see a post like this, go into Sunday, bet against the line movement, and go 1-3 on the day and give up. 

    Anyways GL

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2021 - 8:43 AM ET #23

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     So moves off the 3 and 7 more times than not are significant ? Thx. Certainly appears so.

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    @Pro_Fball_Picks

     So moves off the 3 and 7 more times than not are significant ? Thx. Certainly appears so.

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