I admit taking overs in the NFL is not an exact science. Coaching decisions are too variable, as well as addressing shortcomings on defense.
I think the Lions at home will be throwing all day long, and the Packers with very average numbers defensively.
The game looks to be very long, and with a kind of "Turkey Day" type entertainment value, as opposed to tightening screws defensively.
I'm confused abt the total, but for weeks have believed the Packers would use the game to "serve notice" they were the best in the NFL, make a statement, whatever.
One team in the 30s (Packers) and one in the 20s. Are we gonna tussle over 5 points? Number is sharp.
Finally, besides the "entertainment atmosphere" of the game, how can they effectively address holes in their defenses in 2-3 days? You either read and cover well or you don't.
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I admit taking overs in the NFL is not an exact science. Coaching decisions are too variable, as well as addressing shortcomings on defense.
I think the Lions at home will be throwing all day long, and the Packers with very average numbers defensively.
The game looks to be very long, and with a kind of "Turkey Day" type entertainment value, as opposed to tightening screws defensively.
I'm confused abt the total, but for weeks have believed the Packers would use the game to "serve notice" they were the best in the NFL, make a statement, whatever.
One team in the 30s (Packers) and one in the 20s. Are we gonna tussle over 5 points? Number is sharp.
Finally, besides the "entertainment atmosphere" of the game, how can they effectively address holes in their defenses in 2-3 days? You either read and cover well or you don't.
Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
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Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
The Books set it this high to entice both sides of the play. This line is suggesting a no defense game. I can't see the Lions allowing 30 points against Green Bay especially when thats enough to win most NFL Games.
The Bears are hunting and the Lions know this is a must win Game. Their strategy will be to play Defense and keep Rodgers off the grass. They will run the ball even though they aren't the best at it.
I can see the Detroit defense getting after Rodgers. He will be sacked in this game.
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Quote Originally Posted by whitesnake1983:
Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
The Books set it this high to entice both sides of the play. This line is suggesting a no defense game. I can't see the Lions allowing 30 points against Green Bay especially when thats enough to win most NFL Games.
The Bears are hunting and the Lions know this is a must win Game. Their strategy will be to play Defense and keep Rodgers off the grass. They will run the ball even though they aren't the best at it.
I can see the Detroit defense getting after Rodgers. He will be sacked in this game.
I dunno. Stafford looked about as sharp as I've ever seen him yesterday (after the 1st quarter). Detroit and Green Bay are 4th and 5th in number of complete passes and both in the bottom half of rushing attempts. They're a combined 15-5 overs to unders.
Last year's Packers had a MUCH better defense and were less efficient on offense. Last year's Lions had a comparable defense and no Stafford. Don't forget in that 7-3 game, most of the game had a Flynn/Stanton matchup.
"Packers defense is not a Panthers defense and Stafford will look at running the ball as much as throwing." I don't understand this line of thought, considering the Panthers are pretty much THE worst rush defense in the league. I'd be absolutely shocked if Smith rushes for triple digits again this week. I'd be reasonably surprised if he even gets 15 carries.
I know it'll be a public play, but that over looks mighty tempting. I don't like the short week, but both of these offenses are just SO explosive.
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I dunno. Stafford looked about as sharp as I've ever seen him yesterday (after the 1st quarter). Detroit and Green Bay are 4th and 5th in number of complete passes and both in the bottom half of rushing attempts. They're a combined 15-5 overs to unders.
Last year's Packers had a MUCH better defense and were less efficient on offense. Last year's Lions had a comparable defense and no Stafford. Don't forget in that 7-3 game, most of the game had a Flynn/Stanton matchup.
"Packers defense is not a Panthers defense and Stafford will look at running the ball as much as throwing." I don't understand this line of thought, considering the Panthers are pretty much THE worst rush defense in the league. I'd be absolutely shocked if Smith rushes for triple digits again this week. I'd be reasonably surprised if he even gets 15 carries.
I know it'll be a public play, but that over looks mighty tempting. I don't like the short week, but both of these offenses are just SO explosive.
Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
Whitesanke i Q your logic you atuomatically call for blowout's
how long you been doing this for?
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Quote Originally Posted by whitesnake1983:
Yeah, that total is pretty high, but I think it will go over, that's why it is so high, so the bookies hook straight bettors who think man, they have only 4 days, they will be tired blah blah - with that Lions d-fence I think it should be 60.5 to go under, I see it 41-17 GB
Whitesanke i Q your logic you atuomatically call for blowout's
I can see an argument for both sides of the total and I'm speculating it will be a game of defense. You may get 31 points in the 1st Half but if you ever played Football, you know the legs are not the same with 4 days rest and especially if this game becomes a tight affair where offense becomes alot more defensive with both teams trying to run the ball and waste clock.
I will have a 220 bet on the Unders anyway.
Thanks for the insights though and Good Luck and Happy Thanksgiving.
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What will help the total is the defense scoring.
I can see an argument for both sides of the total and I'm speculating it will be a game of defense. You may get 31 points in the 1st Half but if you ever played Football, you know the legs are not the same with 4 days rest and especially if this game becomes a tight affair where offense becomes alot more defensive with both teams trying to run the ball and waste clock.
I will have a 220 bet on the Unders anyway.
Thanks for the insights though and Good Luck and Happy Thanksgiving.
Spooker, just to show you how well mannered I am, after your trash talking in my tread, I won't call you dumb SOB, even though I was right, so let's put all this behind us and keep talkin' about this match. I really like GB here on the -6 HC line, but if you decided to talk totals: we all see what GB does this season to a weak passing d-fence (as Lions') so I don't see the Packers scoring less than 35. You say they'll get in Rogers face and OK, they'll stop him - once, twice and what about the other 10-12 possessions? I, unlike you, am not a hater, I just say my opinion. I personally will play the Packers HC, it seems way more secure. This total, I agree it's very high, but I still think it will go over, simply because you can't really hold GB under 30-35 points this year.And the Lions really depend on their offense, so an easy 21-24 points there - you have it, it might get close, it might be 35-21, but it still be over. And about the blowout - I really think that GB is going to beat the hell out of the Lions, simply way better team.
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Spooker, just to show you how well mannered I am, after your trash talking in my tread, I won't call you dumb SOB, even though I was right, so let's put all this behind us and keep talkin' about this match. I really like GB here on the -6 HC line, but if you decided to talk totals: we all see what GB does this season to a weak passing d-fence (as Lions') so I don't see the Packers scoring less than 35. You say they'll get in Rogers face and OK, they'll stop him - once, twice and what about the other 10-12 possessions? I, unlike you, am not a hater, I just say my opinion. I personally will play the Packers HC, it seems way more secure. This total, I agree it's very high, but I still think it will go over, simply because you can't really hold GB under 30-35 points this year.And the Lions really depend on their offense, so an easy 21-24 points there - you have it, it might get close, it might be 35-21, but it still be over. And about the blowout - I really think that GB is going to beat the hell out of the Lions, simply way better team.
Those bookies will try any trick as you expressed Spooker, especially in holiday games.
You really seem to have done your homework and both teams will certainly have solved any defensive lapses they have had in previous 11 weeks. 3 days is more than enough time to put your fingers in the dyke.
Running the ball more makes sense to burn the clock and get at that feast faster as well. gl
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Those bookies will try any trick as you expressed Spooker, especially in holiday games.
You really seem to have done your homework and both teams will certainly have solved any defensive lapses they have had in previous 11 weeks. 3 days is more than enough time to put your fingers in the dyke.
Running the ball more makes sense to burn the clock and get at that feast faster as well. gl
the bet is detroit take it now at -6 before it goes down this will be a field goal game?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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the bet is detroit take it now at -6 before it goes down this will be a field goal game?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
the bet is detroit take it now at -6 before it goes down this will be a field goal game?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
a field goal by kickoff line will flip from 5.5 to a rare 7 sighting to keep cash flowing--should be a huge handle for this one being first game out of the gate- havent closed on this one yet but love miami at + 7.5 and a hard lean for the 9ers at + 3.5- should be great day
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Quote Originally Posted by raythebaker:
the bet is detroit take it now at -6 before it goes down this will be a field goal game?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
a field goal by kickoff line will flip from 5.5 to a rare 7 sighting to keep cash flowing--should be a huge handle for this one being first game out of the gate- havent closed on this one yet but love miami at + 7.5 and a hard lean for the 9ers at + 3.5- should be great day
a field goal by kickoff line will flip from 5.5 to a rare 7 sighting to keep cash flowing--should be a huge handle for this one being first game out of the gate- havent closed on this one yet but love miami at + 7.5 and a hard lean for the 9ers at + 3.5- should be great day
I think he means either team wins with a FG. With you on Niners who have covered 9 of 10 with a push.
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Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:
a field goal by kickoff line will flip from 5.5 to a rare 7 sighting to keep cash flowing--should be a huge handle for this one being first game out of the gate- havent closed on this one yet but love miami at + 7.5 and a hard lean for the 9ers at + 3.5- should be great day
I think he means either team wins with a FG. With you on Niners who have covered 9 of 10 with a push.
Yeah, I like the Dolphins too, even think about going on the ML...Those Cowboys - lots of luck this season, 2 games won in overtime, on the other hand Miami - down on luck in the first few games, lost some close matches, got their groove last 3 games, I think with this Dolphins scoring the last games and with the Cowboys scoring offense - easily over 44 points and probably the safer bet on +7 on the Dolphins. About the 49ers - leaning Ravens, enough with the SF fairytale, it's their to lose a game, this 10-1 got their noses pretty high, but I don't think that Alex Smith has any chance vs the Ravens D...Like the Ravens on the additional HC -6.5, should win with at least a TD.
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Yeah, I like the Dolphins too, even think about going on the ML...Those Cowboys - lots of luck this season, 2 games won in overtime, on the other hand Miami - down on luck in the first few games, lost some close matches, got their groove last 3 games, I think with this Dolphins scoring the last games and with the Cowboys scoring offense - easily over 44 points and probably the safer bet on +7 on the Dolphins. About the 49ers - leaning Ravens, enough with the SF fairytale, it's their to lose a game, this 10-1 got their noses pretty high, but I don't think that Alex Smith has any chance vs the Ravens D...Like the Ravens on the additional HC -6.5, should win with at least a TD.
The line is right GB has beens scoring alot and giving up alot.Same with the Lions.Rodgers will pick the Lions apart and the same with Stratford will do to the Packers
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The line is right GB has beens scoring alot and giving up alot.Same with the Lions.Rodgers will pick the Lions apart and the same with Stratford will do to the Packers
The refs did help pulling Lions back from two drives in the 1st qrtr.Just any kind of normal game in the 1st h and this one sails over--but didn't. So there you go.
I thought when I saw this game weeks ago when Lions were the wonderboys at 5-0 that this game would be a blowout win for the Pack.
Sadly I only picked up on the 2H. Totals are precarious plays anyway, I'm convinced.
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Good suspicions on the line and total.
The refs did help pulling Lions back from two drives in the 1st qrtr.Just any kind of normal game in the 1st h and this one sails over--but didn't. So there you go.
I thought when I saw this game weeks ago when Lions were the wonderboys at 5-0 that this game would be a blowout win for the Pack.
Sadly I only picked up on the 2H. Totals are precarious plays anyway, I'm convinced.
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