People talking about deflategate are pure idiots

Don't you dumb dumbs know that every quarterback in the league likes the ball inflated differently.  Rodgers loves it hard as a rock and Brady loves it a little deflated...so what!...Every quarterback screws with the game balls and they are all different....how long have you idiots been studying this game!...You guys should find another way to blow your cash!

they can do various things to get the balls the way they like them.  However, they can't over-inflate or deflate the ball.  that's the rule.

There is a reason for the rule!

You know fellas, I think this is much ado about nothing.  Sure, it's against the rules and there is bound to be a slap on the wrist coming to the Patriots.  But there are two weeks between the conference championships and the SB.  If this didn't happen, what would all the talking heads on ESPN be yapping about?  This is just entertainment being supplied to the masses during a slow news week.  It might also be sleight of hand, so be sure to pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Just my opinion 

There is a HUGE difference  deflating   the balls , Jaws  Brunell Kanell  Gruden on ESPN today   all say it s night and day  throwing a 9 lb ball or a 13 lb . Its also a big deal that the Pats are always doing something under handed ,makes you wonder what they are doing that's not being caught  If it wasn't a big deal they would not inspect them and someone wouldn't of deflated 11 out of 12 balls ,Did it matter in the Colts blow out no ,but it might of in a close game like the Ravens   The only  knuckle head is you starting this thread .   

One thing the softer ball does is make it less likely the running backs fumble.  If I heard right on ESPN this morning, New England's top three running backs did not fumble one time this year, which makes me wonder were the Patriots doing this the entire year.  Some food for thought I guess.

so in other words this is kinda a big deal!  Also accuracy throwing and gripping a ball is better!  This is huge......cant wait to see how these bozos play with a regulation ball!  

So what?  Did the talking heads on ESPN bother to tell you that none of the Washington Redskins running backs fumbled the entire season either?  Here's the link to the stat: https://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/wsh/washington-redskins

Dang people, you must remember that the E in ESPN stands for Entertainment, not Education

I hear that the NFL wants to resolve whatever action they are going to take this week.  Rumor has it they are considering either suspending him for the Super Bowl or for half or all of next season ("Bountygate" being the precedent).  This was blatant and Belechik is a repeat offender of willfully cheating.  Someone here will say none of this will happen, but NFL is "very distraught" about this situation and after the other incidents this season where they were criticized for being too soft, what action would you take?

Who touches the ball more than anybody else during the game...I'll give you dummies a guess....they are wearing black stripes....and they didn't notice?......they didn't notice because it happens every game every week....all balls are not the same...geez...I thought people in this forum knew something about the NFL...guess not

Education from ESPN - Check out today's Sports Science segment on ESPN analyzing under-inflated footballs.  I will defer to science - No Advantage was gained by the Patriots.  But ESPN will continue to beat this to death.  Until the next scandal comes along in a few days  

From your response, you are admitting to not understand the significance of an under-inflated football.

Advantages include:

1. Center has easier time gripping ball
2. QB has easier time gripping ball
3. WR's have easier time catching the ball and less likely to "jam" their fingers
4. RB's have an easier time protecting the ball


Last thing, anyone who has played around with a football either for a team or pickup and primarily throwing and catching, would understand how easily it is to notice the inflation level of the ball...

*I should say ESPN NFL LIVE not Insiders.

That is very true, once again, due to the "grip-ability" of the ball.

What I just realized as well, is that there was rain. 

Now...the easiest test to realize the significant advantage of under-inflated footballs, is to get the ball wet.  When the ball is really "concrete like" a coating of rain makes that ball like a slip and slide, really hard to catch, and really hard to grip and throw accurately...the ball will propelling everywhere in fumbles and juggled catches.

When the ball has some air let out, now, the coating of rain water is not so significant..this is because the ball has become "squishable" where your hands can grip with an embedded impression...this also makes the ball more likely to "Cushion" in the WR's arms instead of ricochet....

Hey TheFootball77...You have shown yourself to be lord of the idiots....I think the Professional referees might know a thing or 2 about handling a football and they didn't notice...because...now listen closely ....they see it in every game they officiate....nobody has ever commented on this issue ever...THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE..and they know it...I guess you know a bit more sitting on your couch and stuffing chips down your gulliver!...go watch some Rodeo

Wrong.  Watch the ESPN Sports Science report.  And try not to confuse a good story with the facts

well, everyone will know if you're right by the end of the week.  if the league does nothing, then you're right, but if the league punishes them, then YOU are the idiot.

The league will punish the Patriots, if they are determined to be guilty in the NFL kangaroo court.  After all, what they did (are accused of doing) is against the rules.  But I hardly think that what the Patriots are accused of doing will change the outcome of the SB.

This is entertainment aimed at its lowest common denominator.  And you, sir, certainly qualify as the lowest common denominator 

someone named "bunny" in an NFL gambling forum has called people talking about breaking a rule about the thing that 22 players are diving head first to possess on each and every play dum dum dummies, and called me "Lord of the Idiots"

Are you by any chance related to the hare?

A turtle traveler who refuses to fly is according to "bunny" a dum dum dummie        (From wikipedia)
John Earl Madden (born April 10, 1936)^[1] is a former American football player in the National Football League, a former Super Bowl-winning head coach with the Oakland Raiders in the American Football League and later the NFL, and a former color commentator for NFL telecasts. In 2006, he was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in recognition of his coaching career. He is also widely known for the long-running Madden NFL video game series he has endorsed and fronted since 1988. Madden broadcast with Pat Summerall in the 1980s and 1990s, on CBS and later Fox. He was also the last color commentator for ABC's Monday Night Football, teaming with Al Michaels, before it moved to ESPN in 2006. His last regular role was as a commentator for NBC's Sunday Night Football, also with Michaels. During his career, he worked as the main color commentator for all four major networks.

Madden has also written several books and has served as a commercial pitchman for various products and retailers.

I appreciate the crowning of "Lord of the Idiots" but I definitely do not deserve such prestige.  Idiot of course means intelligent people in my mind when a person named "bunny" on an NFL gambling forum after an AFC Title Championship match for the Superbowl in 2 weeks claims that "talking about changing the integrity of the thing that is the name of the game they are playing are idiots and dummies".   

Here is what John Madden said for the intelligent people that understand football and what it means to change the integrity of the ball.

"" But Madden says the logical person behind any changes in the football would be Brady.
"That would have to be driven by the quarterback," Madden told The Sports Xchange on Wednesday. "That's something that wouldn't be driven by a coach or just the equipment guy. Nobody, not even the head coach, would do anything to the football unilaterally, such as adjust the amount of pressure in a ball, without the quarterback knowing. It would have to be the quarterback's idea.""

 Madden, who serves as a consultant to commissioner Roger Goodell and is on a couple of subcommittees that oversee various elements of the game, believes Belichick, who said this week that he knew nothing about it.

"Yeah, I believe him," Madden said. "I can see -- and you hate to make examples of what you can see because that sounds like you are accusing someone -- but I can see that being between the quarterback and the equipment guy.

"He is the guy affected, he is the only guy," Madden said, referring to the quarterback. "I heard some of the pundits saying the ball is easier to catch, but that would never, ever, ever be done for that unless the quarterback wanted it. You wouldn't do something for a receiver to catch the ball if the quarterback couldn't throw it. So it's going to be done for the quarterback."

" There is no question that a player's ability to grip the ball is impacted by how much it is inflated, but Madden is perplexed by comments from Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who claims to like the football inflated to the max, and maybe then some.
"Never heard that one," Madden said. "You learn when you are a kid that is it harder to handle a football or basketball, to grip them, when they are inflated too much and conversely it is easier to grip when they are underinflated.""

 Madden said it might be an easy task for somebody to use an inflating needle to take some air out of a football on the sideline, but wonders why take the chance because the officials should notice it.
"On every play, the ball is handled by two officials," he said. "It comes in from a ball boy to a wing official and into the spotting official, who is usually the umpire. So it's not like the officials don't touch those footballs because they do. I am surprised that if there were that many that they didn't know that."
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I think the bunny loses the race again (wrong way bunny!)

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Deflate a Basketball by 2ils...You can dribble it the same but Now you can palm the ball like MJ. and softer rolls around the Rim..

Deflating a Football gives offensive advantages as listed above...THE END