After I watched that 70-yd TD play, I thought, "That was more ridiculous than amazing." With 40+ seconds left in the game and Balt needing a TD, they somehow managed to hit a play where Jones gets BEHIND the deep coverage. How? The answer: Denver had only 10 men on the field on that play. Question: Why are none of the sports shows (ESPN,NFLN), showing us this?
Also, very puzzling, it's possible that Denver had only 10 men on the field for MORE than one of the plays on that drive.
WATCH THAT DRIVE ON YOUTUBE - SEARCH ON "JOE FLACCO" AND THEN SORT BY DATE-TODAY.
1st-and-10 (1:09) : Denver lines up in a formation that's basically 6-in-the-box and 4 DB's in an umbrella coverage. That's 10 guys. Maybe there's another DB playing very-deep centerfield, but that's debateable. After the snap, some of the front 6 guys drop into coverage. Result : pass incomplete.
2nd-and-10 (1:05) : Denver lines up in a formation that's basically 3 guys rushing, 4 guys dropped covering the middle of the field, and 3 DB's on the outside and deep. YOU WILL NOTICE that Bailey-24 is concerned about someone VERY DEEP DOWNFIELD. He's obviously yelling something because there's frosty air / breath shooting out of his helmet. So maybe there's an unseen 11th player on the field here. Result: The ball is snapped, Flacco instantly sees something, and he scrambles for a 7-yard gain instead of trying to throw a pass.
3rd-and-3 (:43) : Camera zooms out a little for a wider view. You can see 20-yds downfield now. Denver's playing 3 down, 5 guys in medium coverage, and 2 guys deep, 15-yds back. Again, clearly only 10 guys. This time, Bailey does not turn to see if or where there's a Denver DB positioned deep downfield. Result: 70-yd TD to Jones.
ON REPLAY DURING THE GAME, THE BROADCAST SHOWS THE PLAY FROM FLACCO'S VIEW, AND THERE IS NO DB DEEP DOWNFIELD. THE BRONCOS CLEARLY ONLY HAD 10 MEN ON THE FIELD ON THAT PLAY FOR THE TD.
This is ridiculous, and I don't think it was a mistake. I question whether Denver had more than 10 men on the field for that whole drive. The only evidence of an 11th man/DB was Bailey turning and yelling, so maybe someone was there. MAYBE.
I'm calling fix. Yes - FIX.
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After I watched that 70-yd TD play, I thought, "That was more ridiculous than amazing." With 40+ seconds left in the game and Balt needing a TD, they somehow managed to hit a play where Jones gets BEHIND the deep coverage. How? The answer: Denver had only 10 men on the field on that play. Question: Why are none of the sports shows (ESPN,NFLN), showing us this?
Also, very puzzling, it's possible that Denver had only 10 men on the field for MORE than one of the plays on that drive.
WATCH THAT DRIVE ON YOUTUBE - SEARCH ON "JOE FLACCO" AND THEN SORT BY DATE-TODAY.
1st-and-10 (1:09) : Denver lines up in a formation that's basically 6-in-the-box and 4 DB's in an umbrella coverage. That's 10 guys. Maybe there's another DB playing very-deep centerfield, but that's debateable. After the snap, some of the front 6 guys drop into coverage. Result : pass incomplete.
2nd-and-10 (1:05) : Denver lines up in a formation that's basically 3 guys rushing, 4 guys dropped covering the middle of the field, and 3 DB's on the outside and deep. YOU WILL NOTICE that Bailey-24 is concerned about someone VERY DEEP DOWNFIELD. He's obviously yelling something because there's frosty air / breath shooting out of his helmet. So maybe there's an unseen 11th player on the field here. Result: The ball is snapped, Flacco instantly sees something, and he scrambles for a 7-yard gain instead of trying to throw a pass.
3rd-and-3 (:43) : Camera zooms out a little for a wider view. You can see 20-yds downfield now. Denver's playing 3 down, 5 guys in medium coverage, and 2 guys deep, 15-yds back. Again, clearly only 10 guys. This time, Bailey does not turn to see if or where there's a Denver DB positioned deep downfield. Result: 70-yd TD to Jones.
ON REPLAY DURING THE GAME, THE BROADCAST SHOWS THE PLAY FROM FLACCO'S VIEW, AND THERE IS NO DB DEEP DOWNFIELD. THE BRONCOS CLEARLY ONLY HAD 10 MEN ON THE FIELD ON THAT PLAY FOR THE TD.
This is ridiculous, and I don't think it was a mistake. I question whether Denver had more than 10 men on the field for that whole drive. The only evidence of an 11th man/DB was Bailey turning and yelling, so maybe someone was there. MAYBE.
clearly you know nothing about football. you think they would leave the left side of the field without safety help? with torrey smith already burning champ bailey numerous times?
the safety to bailey's side is out of the picture but you can assume he's around the 45 yard line, about the same yard line the safety on the top of the screen is. the defense they are playing is a quarters package, 3 lineman (although one is probably von miller), linebacker which is probably woodyard, 3 safeties and 4 dbs. one safety is clearly on the top of the screen. the player on the 39 yard line should be a safety unless they're playing another linebacker that deep. the other safety is behind champ on the 45 yard line ish. at the end while jacoby is running into the endzone, you see #30 come into the picture, he's a backup safety so he's probably the on standing on the 39 yard line. where is mike adams/jim leonard, behind bailey.
bailey is concerned about getting beat downfield because he got beat a few times already, not because he's alone.
this is the worse kind of FIX i've ever heard someone cry... this is just so sad
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clearly you know nothing about football. you think they would leave the left side of the field without safety help? with torrey smith already burning champ bailey numerous times?
the safety to bailey's side is out of the picture but you can assume he's around the 45 yard line, about the same yard line the safety on the top of the screen is. the defense they are playing is a quarters package, 3 lineman (although one is probably von miller), linebacker which is probably woodyard, 3 safeties and 4 dbs. one safety is clearly on the top of the screen. the player on the 39 yard line should be a safety unless they're playing another linebacker that deep. the other safety is behind champ on the 45 yard line ish. at the end while jacoby is running into the endzone, you see #30 come into the picture, he's a backup safety so he's probably the on standing on the 39 yard line. where is mike adams/jim leonard, behind bailey.
bailey is concerned about getting beat downfield because he got beat a few times already, not because he's alone.
this is the worse kind of FIX i've ever heard someone cry... this is just so sad
look at about 34 seconds, before snap. you can clearly count 8 players. 3 line, 3 medium and 3 deep. ball snapped, at 36/37, you see another player on the left side of the screen. at 38 seconds, as flacco steps up, you clearly see another player on the deep left... as deep as the safety to the right of the screen. at 39 seconds, you can see champ bailey running with torrey smith.
more importantly. you can count out all 11 ravens as well as all 11 broncos. if you can't see it, i don't know what else to say.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxF0NKYZAA
look at about 34 seconds, before snap. you can clearly count 8 players. 3 line, 3 medium and 3 deep. ball snapped, at 36/37, you see another player on the left side of the screen. at 38 seconds, as flacco steps up, you clearly see another player on the deep left... as deep as the safety to the right of the screen. at 39 seconds, you can see champ bailey running with torrey smith.
more importantly. you can count out all 11 ravens as well as all 11 broncos. if you can't see it, i don't know what else to say.
look at about 34 seconds, before snap. you can clearly count 8 players. 3 line, 3 medium and 3 deep. ball snapped, at 36/37, you see another player on the left side of the screen. at 38 seconds, as flacco steps up, you clearly see another player on the deep left... as deep as the safety to the right of the screen. at 39 seconds, you can see champ bailey running with torrey smith.
more importantly. you can count out all 11 ravens as well as all 11 broncos. if you can't see it, i don't know what else to say.
meant to say 2 deep... but regardless... you can stop crying fix. we all lose, it happens. players made a mistake and let jones get deep, end of story
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Quote Originally Posted by dgnowsf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxF0NKYZAA
look at about 34 seconds, before snap. you can clearly count 8 players. 3 line, 3 medium and 3 deep. ball snapped, at 36/37, you see another player on the left side of the screen. at 38 seconds, as flacco steps up, you clearly see another player on the deep left... as deep as the safety to the right of the screen. at 39 seconds, you can see champ bailey running with torrey smith.
more importantly. you can count out all 11 ravens as well as all 11 broncos. if you can't see it, i don't know what else to say.
meant to say 2 deep... but regardless... you can stop crying fix. we all lose, it happens. players made a mistake and let jones get deep, end of story
Well, thank you dgnowsf. You're right. There's a DB playing deep on the offensive-left side of the field on the last play. I didn't see him in the shot you posted when I originally looked at it myself. I guess I might have thought he was part of the guys standing on the sideline.
Forget everything I posted. There is now enough evidence to say that a DB was there on the deep offensive-left side of the field for 2 of the 3 plays, which means he clearly could have been there on all 3 plays.
I feel kind of stupid. Sorry about raising a false alarm.
However, I must maintain I didn't bet on the game and I'm not a Denver fan. I'm a Giants fan and I can't afford to gamble (bills and kids). I'm a sports fan and a conspiracy guy (obviously).
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Well, thank you dgnowsf. You're right. There's a DB playing deep on the offensive-left side of the field on the last play. I didn't see him in the shot you posted when I originally looked at it myself. I guess I might have thought he was part of the guys standing on the sideline.
Forget everything I posted. There is now enough evidence to say that a DB was there on the deep offensive-left side of the field for 2 of the 3 plays, which means he clearly could have been there on all 3 plays.
I feel kind of stupid. Sorry about raising a false alarm.
However, I must maintain I didn't bet on the game and I'm not a Denver fan. I'm a Giants fan and I can't afford to gamble (bills and kids). I'm a sports fan and a conspiracy guy (obviously).
I hate people like you, Nothing can happen just for the sake of happening, There always has to be a conspiracy behind everything that happens in life. You're the type that probably thinks 9/11 was an inside job so America could justify starting a war against Islam or better yet the type that thinks the buzzer beating shot from half court to send an NBA game into OT was used with a basketball that had a computer chip inside it which was controlled by a remote control from the head offices of vegas because that game had too much money on the under bet and by forcing it into OT it forced the game to go over.
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I hate people like you, Nothing can happen just for the sake of happening, There always has to be a conspiracy behind everything that happens in life. You're the type that probably thinks 9/11 was an inside job so America could justify starting a war against Islam or better yet the type that thinks the buzzer beating shot from half court to send an NBA game into OT was used with a basketball that had a computer chip inside it which was controlled by a remote control from the head offices of vegas because that game had too much money on the under bet and by forcing it into OT it forced the game to go over.
Trust me there was 11 out there. I was sitting on 25 yard line front row. Def was 11 out there; now if I can get the feeling back in my feet sometime today that would be great. Coldest day of my life; but got to wear my Ed Reed jersey and get told by the youngest and oldest broncos fans in the stadium "at least you get to see Ray Lewis Retirement party" lol thanks fans but my Ravens are winning it all this year. Maybe next year Peyton
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Trust me there was 11 out there. I was sitting on 25 yard line front row. Def was 11 out there; now if I can get the feeling back in my feet sometime today that would be great. Coldest day of my life; but got to wear my Ed Reed jersey and get told by the youngest and oldest broncos fans in the stadium "at least you get to see Ray Lewis Retirement party" lol thanks fans but my Ravens are winning it all this year. Maybe next year Peyton
SwishSwish - yeah, you're right. I'm one of those guys.9/11 is ancient history, though. No use wasting energy on it anymorewhen there's so much going on in the world in the present.
I will continue to point to San Diego @ Pittsburgh 2008 as the benchmark for fixed games. Won't mention the details. Everyone knows what happened that day.
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SwishSwish - yeah, you're right. I'm one of those guys.9/11 is ancient history, though. No use wasting energy on it anymorewhen there's so much going on in the world in the present.
I will continue to point to San Diego @ Pittsburgh 2008 as the benchmark for fixed games. Won't mention the details. Everyone knows what happened that day.
Last year a guy named Moore (NE) kept the Ravens from going to the Super Bowl....Yesterday another Moore (Denver) allowed Jones to get behind him to force OT...
We only need one MORE to go to the Super Bowl...
Full Speed Ahead...
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Last year a guy named Moore (NE) kept the Ravens from going to the Super Bowl....Yesterday another Moore (Denver) allowed Jones to get behind him to force OT...
hey Tuttleberry , you made an error in judgement and admitted so . however, lets say that you were correct on this , why would you cry fix ? how would that be a fix ???
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hey Tuttleberry , you made an error in judgement and admitted so . however, lets say that you were correct on this , why would you cry fix ? how would that be a fix ???
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