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    That false start cost the colts 30 seconds....

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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:32 PM ET #1

    That is the real penalty there.  Not the 5 yards. 
     
    COuld be costly.....
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    That is the real penalty there.  Not the 5 yards. 
     
    COuld be costly.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:33 PM ET #2

    Also cost them the game.
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    Also cost them the game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:33 PM ET #3

    Doesnt that HELP them?

    It HURTS the Chargers right?  
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    Doesnt that HELP them?

    It HURTS the Chargers right?  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:34 PM ET #4

    O M G

    cant believe he misseed it
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    O M G

    cant believe he misseed it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:34 PM ET #5

    Oh god Please Nurv dont get cute and have Rivers throw the ball
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    Oh god Please Nurv dont get cute and have Rivers throw the ball
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:35 PM ET #6

    And the game
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    And the game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:35 PM ET #7

    They thought they were so clever.  Suits them right.
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    They thought they were so clever.  Suits them right.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:36 PM ET #8

    fucked up game, watch indy get the ball back and win
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    fucked up game, watch indy get the ball back and win
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:37 PM ET #9

    That' what the idiots deserve for trying to be cute.  Just kick the fricken FG
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    That' what the idiots deserve for trying to be cute.  Just kick the fricken FG
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:37 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by GGH1969:

    And the game

     That picture in your avatar is

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGH1969:

    And the game

     That picture in your avatar is

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:38 PM ET #11

    If you play to win with a field goal, you're playing to lose. With all those time left on the clock, they should stuck it in the endzone, and let the other offense beat them, which they haven't all night.
     
     They tried to get cute with the running plays, that gain negative yards
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    If you play to win with a field goal, you're playing to lose. With all those time left on the clock, they should stuck it in the endzone, and let the other offense beat them, which they haven't all night.
     
     They tried to get cute with the running plays, that gain negative yards
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2007 - 11:52 PM ET #12

    That wasn't a penalty - horrible fucking call. That call was made by the Chargers D and the finger pointing, and the league will be apologizing for it later this week I'm sure. The shifting was totally legal.
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    That wasn't a penalty - horrible fucking call. That call was made by the Chargers D and the finger pointing, and the league will be apologizing for it later this week I'm sure. The shifting was totally legal.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:08 AM ET #13

    There should have been a :10 second run off on that play, too.

    The clock was moving when that false start happened.
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    There should have been a :10 second run off on that play, too.

    The clock was moving when that false start happened.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:12 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public:

    There should have been a :10 second run off on that play, too.

    The clock was moving when that false start happened.

    It wasn't a false start, they were flageed for simulating a snap????

    The shifting was legal, and the call was bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public:

    There should have been a :10 second run off on that play, too.

    The clock was moving when that false start happened.

    It wasn't a false start, they were flageed for simulating a snap????

    The shifting was legal, and the call was bullshit.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:17 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

    If you play to win with a field goal, you're playing to lose. With all those time left on the clock, they should stuck it in the endzone, and let the other offense beat them, which they haven't all night.
     
     They tried to get cute with the running plays, that gain negative yards

    You couldn't be more wrong. The chance of not getting the 4th down conversion is much higher than the chance of missing a 29 field goal. While that may not be convenient for your IND -3 bet, it is the right move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

    If you play to win with a field goal, you're playing to lose. With all those time left on the clock, they should stuck it in the endzone, and let the other offense beat them, which they haven't all night.
     
     They tried to get cute with the running plays, that gain negative yards

    You couldn't be more wrong. The chance of not getting the 4th down conversion is much higher than the chance of missing a 29 field goal. While that may not be convenient for your IND -3 bet, it is the right move.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:18 AM ET #16

    Simulating a snap is still a penalty I'm pretty sure there should have been a ten second run off for.

    Still, that whole thing was a mess.  I thought the spot thing itself was bulls**t, but then there was no reason to go out there and try to get them to jump for precisely that reason.

    Let the clock tick then call the timeout, everybody knows what you're going to do.  Just do it, kick what is basically a PAT and play defense for 1:00 vs. a team with no TOs.
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    Simulating a snap is still a penalty I'm pretty sure there should have been a ten second run off for.

    Still, that whole thing was a mess.  I thought the spot thing itself was bulls**t, but then there was no reason to go out there and try to get them to jump for precisely that reason.

    Let the clock tick then call the timeout, everybody knows what you're going to do.  Just do it, kick what is basically a PAT and play defense for 1:00 vs. a team with no TOs.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:22 AM ET #17

    I understand the process -  a free first down there for offsides and they get to run out the clock and kick the FG.

    I have no problem with it as a fan, makes sense.

    Dungy had every right to be pissed off.

    And a :10 runoff would have in theory helped the Colts at that point (provided the FG was good)

     

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    I understand the process -  a free first down there for offsides and they get to run out the clock and kick the FG.

    I have no problem with it as a fan, makes sense.

    Dungy had every right to be pissed off.

    And a :10 runoff would have in theory helped the Colts at that point (provided the FG was good)

     

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:24 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    It wasn't a false start, they were flageed for simulating a snap????

    The shifting was legal, and the call was bullshit.

    That kind of shifting at any other point in the game would not draw a flag.  However, they were obviously trying to draw SD offside.  SD knew it was coming and the refs knew it was coming (no hesitation on flag) but it backfired.

    By the way, the same kick from five yards closer is gonna be good.  They tried to be tricky and it cost them the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    It wasn't a false start, they were flageed for simulating a snap????

    The shifting was legal, and the call was bullshit.

    That kind of shifting at any other point in the game would not draw a flag.  However, they were obviously trying to draw SD offside.  SD knew it was coming and the refs knew it was coming (no hesitation on flag) but it backfired.

    By the way, the same kick from five yards closer is gonna be good.  They tried to be tricky and it cost them the game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:24 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    That wasn't a penalty - horrible fucking call. That call was made by the Chargers D and the finger pointing, and the league will be apologizing for it later this week I'm sure. The shifting was totally legal.

    that is the key right there-- it wasnt a false start.  30 more seconds should have been allowed to run off unless the chargers (who are known for making boneheaded plays such as last years playoffs when the defender intercepts and promptly fumbles vs new england)  had crossed the neutral zone. 

    in any event, i am shocked vinatieri missed that field goal.  dont forget this is the guy that kicked that 45 yard knuckleball in the snow bowl vs.  Oakland as well as 2 walk off super bowl game winners. that qualifies as being pretty fucking clutch. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    That wasn't a penalty - horrible fucking call. That call was made by the Chargers D and the finger pointing, and the league will be apologizing for it later this week I'm sure. The shifting was totally legal.

    that is the key right there-- it wasnt a false start.  30 more seconds should have been allowed to run off unless the chargers (who are known for making boneheaded plays such as last years playoffs when the defender intercepts and promptly fumbles vs new england)  had crossed the neutral zone. 

    in any event, i am shocked vinatieri missed that field goal.  dont forget this is the guy that kicked that 45 yard knuckleball in the snow bowl vs.  Oakland as well as 2 walk off super bowl game winners. that qualifies as being pretty fucking clutch. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:27 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettinfool:

    That kind of shifting at any other point in the game would not draw a flag. 

    Then why would it draw one at the end of the game? Do they have different rules at different times?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettinfool:

    That kind of shifting at any other point in the game would not draw a flag. 

    Then why would it draw one at the end of the game? Do they have different rules at different times?

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 12:55 AM ET #21

    why would there be a 10 second runoff when indy still had 2 timeouts? 
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    why would there be a 10 second runoff when indy still had 2 timeouts? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 11:11 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpCheddar:

    You couldn't be more wrong. The chance of not getting the 4th down conversion is much higher than the chance of missing a 29 field goal. While that may not be convenient for your IND -3 bet, it is the right move.

    I'm not talking about the 4th down conversion, rather the conservative play callings when they got down there. They should've at least tried to get in the endzone instead of playing for the last possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpCheddar:

    You couldn't be more wrong. The chance of not getting the 4th down conversion is much higher than the chance of missing a 29 field goal. While that may not be convenient for your IND -3 bet, it is the right move.

    I'm not talking about the 4th down conversion, rather the conservative play callings when they got down there. They should've at least tried to get in the endzone instead of playing for the last possession.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 11:18 AM ET #23

    Van, were you hoping that Turner would just let the colts score at the end so they could get the ball back?
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    Van, were you hoping that Turner would just let the colts score at the end so they could get the ball back?
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