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    Waldron out in Chicago

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 9:11 AM ET #1

    Eberflus and Poles should be next an_speechless

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 9:27 AM ET #2

    not sure how that’s going fix that offensive line issue. 

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 9:33 AM ET #3

    It was a bad hire in the first place. Some of the problems with this team rest with the players. Nate Davis pretending his back hurts, Moore quiting on his teammates, and Stevenson's actions during the hail Mary are indicative of a team in free fall. 

     

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    It was a bad hire in the first place. Some of the problems with this team rest with the players. Nate Davis pretending his back hurts, Moore quiting on his teammates, and Stevenson's actions during the hail Mary are indicative of a team in free fall. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 12:42 PM ET #4

    Waldron out=rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

    theyve got a lot of other problems


    Bears record is currently 4-5

    So if you think they can get to 7 wins you can get +135 at DK

    but I’m gonna pass on that and fade them every reasonable chance I get 

     

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    Waldron out=rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

    theyve got a lot of other problems


    Bears record is currently 4-5

    So if you think they can get to 7 wins you can get +135 at DK

    but I’m gonna pass on that and fade them every reasonable chance I get 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 2:32 PM ET #5

    Bears 1 half might be the movean_wink

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 2:57 PM ET #6

    The Bears are by far the worst team in Football! Worse than the NY Giants!!!

    Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields and should have invested in an Offensive line to protect. Without and Offensive line, doesn't matter who you have running at QB.

    Another well wasted draft pick and now what are the bears going to do? Eberfluse GTFO of Chicago you suck and are a disgrace to the city of Chicago!

    FYI, I live here and I will be betting against every single bears game rest of the year. It's all divisional games they Can't win and the 49ers.

    BITTERS:

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    The Bears are by far the worst team in Football! Worse than the NY Giants!!!

    Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields and should have invested in an Offensive line to protect. Without and Offensive line, doesn't matter who you have running at QB.

    Another well wasted draft pick and now what are the bears going to do? Eberfluse GTFO of Chicago you suck and are a disgrace to the city of Chicago!

    FYI, I live here and I will be betting against every single bears game rest of the year. It's all divisional games they Can't win and the 49ers.

    BITTERS:

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 3:19 PM ET #7

    Take the bears +the points next Sunday quiet

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 3:47 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Bitters:

    The Bears are by Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields :

    I've read a lot of stupid shit on this board but this might be the dumbest 

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    The Bears are by Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields :

    I've read a lot of stupid shit on this board but this might be the dumbest 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 4:02 PM ET #9

    @worm23

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 4:34 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by worm23:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bitters: The Bears are by Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields : I've read a lot of stupid shit on this board but this might be the dumbest

    It's not a stupid post.

    If the Bears would of traded the first rd pick again, instead of drafting Williams, they would of gotten another wealthy return in draft picks. And maybe at that point would of started to draft offensive linemen that are worth a damn.

    Instead they got Williams, Odunze, and a bad ass punter who has more punt yards than Caleb has passing yards.

    Fields played behind this same pos offensive line for 3 years, 2 head coaches, and 2 coordinators. Non of the above was the problem except Justin Fields in the general public's eyes.

    Today, the o line, HC and OC is the problem, not Caleb Williams...make it make sense folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by worm23:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bitters: The Bears are by Bears should have never of gotten rid of JFields : I've read a lot of stupid shit on this board but this might be the dumbest

    It's not a stupid post.

    If the Bears would of traded the first rd pick again, instead of drafting Williams, they would of gotten another wealthy return in draft picks. And maybe at that point would of started to draft offensive linemen that are worth a damn.

    Instead they got Williams, Odunze, and a bad ass punter who has more punt yards than Caleb has passing yards.

    Fields played behind this same pos offensive line for 3 years, 2 head coaches, and 2 coordinators. Non of the above was the problem except Justin Fields in the general public's eyes.

    Today, the o line, HC and OC is the problem, not Caleb Williams...make it make sense folks

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 4:37 PM ET #11

    Or, if the scouting and organization was good and didn't listen to hype, you draft Jayden Daniels #1 overall. A dude who spent his entire college career playing against real competition in the sec.

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    Or, if the scouting and organization was good and didn't listen to hype, you draft Jayden Daniels #1 overall. A dude who spent his entire college career playing against real competition in the sec.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2024 - 4:49 PM ET #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Or, if the scouting and organization was good and didn't listen to hype, you draft Jayden Daniels #1 overall. A dude who spent his entire college career playing against real competition in the sec.

     

    an_roll_laugh

    Part of the reason I didn't think Daniels wasn't going to be any good was because he played 3 years at Arizona State, and had a whopping 10 TDs and 10 INTs in 13 games in his last season there. Then he comes to LSU and lit it up with a new team. Just proving the that some people need the right system and the right coaching to succeed, and aren't naturally gifted to work with anyone. He's very lucky to have Kliff Kingsbury as his offensive coordinator. He'll have his pick of many jobs this offseason. 

     

     

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    Or, if the scouting and organization was good and didn't listen to hype, you draft Jayden Daniels #1 overall. A dude who spent his entire college career playing against real competition in the sec.

     

    an_roll_laugh

    Part of the reason I didn't think Daniels wasn't going to be any good was because he played 3 years at Arizona State, and had a whopping 10 TDs and 10 INTs in 13 games in his last season there. Then he comes to LSU and lit it up with a new team. Just proving the that some people need the right system and the right coaching to succeed, and aren't naturally gifted to work with anyone. He's very lucky to have Kliff Kingsbury as his offensive coordinator. He'll have his pick of many jobs this offseason. 

     

     

     
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    I agree that the Bears could have gotten a king's ransom for Caleb Williams, but I think they did okay. 

     

     

    Why are we on the Justin Fields bandwagon still? The guy got benched by a very respected coach while having a winning record, in favor of a guy whose career was supposedly over (Russell Wilson). Russ is 3-0, with the offense averaging 30.33 points a game. Justin Fields lost to Dallas this season an_happybounce.

     

    Fields doesn't have the It Factor. True franchise QBs you typically know it within the first few games. Fields has played for 4 years and still hasn't proven that he has it. 

    Just some quick examples of franchise QBs and their quick evolution.

     

    Joe Burrow had 6 TD passes and three 300 yard passing games in his first 4 games on a Cincy team that had the worst record in the league the season prior. You knew Burrow was good from the very beginning. 

    Patrick Mahomes had 284 yards passing in a his first ever start and won the super bowl his first year starting.

    Lamar Jackson ran a lot his first season. Basically a RB like Fields, but had 36 TDs and 6 INTs the year after and won an MVP. 

    Josh Allen steadily got better, but had MVP type stats by his third year. 

    Jordan Love had 6 TD passes his first 2 games last season, slumped a bit in between then finished off strong in his first year a starter. 

    Justin Herbert had 31 TDs and 10 INTs in his rookie season. You knew he was a franchise QB from the preseason basically. 

    Jayden Daniels is actually a good comp. His first few games, not a lot of TD passes, not a long of yards, but productive as a runner. Now he's averaging roughly 250 yards a game afterwards, and doesn't have double digit carries in his last 6 games because he's evolving as a passer. 

    CJ Stroud is another one. but you get the point by now. None of these guys you were in year 4 and wondering if they were any good still.  

     

     

    You could argue that I am only naming true franchise QBs, but if you go through the list of teams that you would consider having franchise QBs, it's more than you think, and most of them were pretty decent from the beginning, or picked up the game quickly. If you're excited about your team turning a guy into a glorified game manager after 5 years on the team, go ahead. 

    I'm a proponent of drafting a QB every year until you find the franchise QB. You can usually offload their contract to someone on potential alone afterwards. 

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    I agree that the Bears could have gotten a king's ransom for Caleb Williams, but I think they did okay. 

     

     

    Why are we on the Justin Fields bandwagon still? The guy got benched by a very respected coach while having a winning record, in favor of a guy whose career was supposedly over (Russell Wilson). Russ is 3-0, with the offense averaging 30.33 points a game. Justin Fields lost to Dallas this season an_happybounce.

     

    Fields doesn't have the It Factor. True franchise QBs you typically know it within the first few games. Fields has played for 4 years and still hasn't proven that he has it. 

    Just some quick examples of franchise QBs and their quick evolution.

     

    Joe Burrow had 6 TD passes and three 300 yard passing games in his first 4 games on a Cincy team that had the worst record in the league the season prior. You knew Burrow was good from the very beginning. 

    Patrick Mahomes had 284 yards passing in a his first ever start and won the super bowl his first year starting.

    Lamar Jackson ran a lot his first season. Basically a RB like Fields, but had 36 TDs and 6 INTs the year after and won an MVP. 

    Josh Allen steadily got better, but had MVP type stats by his third year. 

    Jordan Love had 6 TD passes his first 2 games last season, slumped a bit in between then finished off strong in his first year a starter. 

    Justin Herbert had 31 TDs and 10 INTs in his rookie season. You knew he was a franchise QB from the preseason basically. 

    Jayden Daniels is actually a good comp. His first few games, not a lot of TD passes, not a long of yards, but productive as a runner. Now he's averaging roughly 250 yards a game afterwards, and doesn't have double digit carries in his last 6 games because he's evolving as a passer. 

    CJ Stroud is another one. but you get the point by now. None of these guys you were in year 4 and wondering if they were any good still.  

     

     

    You could argue that I am only naming true franchise QBs, but if you go through the list of teams that you would consider having franchise QBs, it's more than you think, and most of them were pretty decent from the beginning, or picked up the game quickly. If you're excited about your team turning a guy into a glorified game manager after 5 years on the team, go ahead. 

    I'm a proponent of drafting a QB every year until you find the franchise QB. You can usually offload their contract to someone on potential alone afterwards. 

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 5:44 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:

    Take the bears +the points next Sunday

    Parity is in NFL. Teams have professional millions dollar athletes to show up.

    Pick the team nobody want to touch.

    Plus the points is a gift. Bang Bang.

     

     

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    Parity is in NFL. Teams have professional millions dollar athletes to show up.

    Pick the team nobody want to touch.

    Plus the points is a gift. Bang Bang.

     

     

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