Thanks everyone for informing me on the difference between reg -0.5 and reg ML... But that brings me to one more question... What then would be the difference between reg +0.5 and reg ML?
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Thanks everyone for informing me on the difference between reg -0.5 and reg ML... But that brings me to one more question... What then would be the difference between reg +0.5 and reg ML?
Thanks, this site is awesome. So basically no matter what side you pick reg ML... If the game goes to OT you push... and in order to win your -0.5 reg bet your team needs to win reg or you lose, but if you pick +0.5 then your pick wins in reg or makes it to overtime and either wins or losses in OT you still win your bet? The odds are so low for any +0.5, and the odds are usually around the same for -0.5 and ML overtime included, so from what I've just learned I can see myself betting a lot of -0.5.. It seems the best ratio of decent odds, yet covering yourself in case your team loses in OT. Thanks again everyone, reading threads on here has helped me a lot. I used to play pro line and was tired of getting screwed so I joined pinnacle and love it, and with help from the information on this site, I have started the year 15-5. Peace and good luck to everyone.
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Thanks, this site is awesome. So basically no matter what side you pick reg ML... If the game goes to OT you push... and in order to win your -0.5 reg bet your team needs to win reg or you lose, but if you pick +0.5 then your pick wins in reg or makes it to overtime and either wins or losses in OT you still win your bet? The odds are so low for any +0.5, and the odds are usually around the same for -0.5 and ML overtime included, so from what I've just learned I can see myself betting a lot of -0.5.. It seems the best ratio of decent odds, yet covering yourself in case your team loses in OT. Thanks again everyone, reading threads on here has helped me a lot. I used to play pro line and was tired of getting screwed so I joined pinnacle and love it, and with help from the information on this site, I have started the year 15-5. Peace and good luck to everyone.
Reg ML would actually lose if the game went to OT since game would be a draw outcome rather than a reg win for either of the 2 sides...just like soccer with 3 way betting (home, draw or away outcome)-good luck bud!
But if this is true... Then there would be no difference between reg ML and reg -0.5.
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Quote Originally Posted by docpj72:
Reg ML would actually lose if the game went to OT since game would be a draw outcome rather than a reg win for either of the 2 sides...just like soccer with 3 way betting (home, draw or away outcome)-good luck bud!
But if this is true... Then there would be no difference between reg ML and reg -0.5.
Thanks, this site is awesome. So basically no matter what side you pick reg ML... If the game goes to OT you push... and in order to win your -0.5 reg bet your team needs to win reg or you lose, but if you pick +0.5 then your pick wins in reg or makes it to overtime and either wins or losses in OT you still win your bet? The odds are so low for any +0.5, and the odds are usually around the same for -0.5 and ML overtime included, so from what I've just learned I can see myself betting a lot of -0.5.. It seems the best ratio of decent odds, yet covering yourself in case your team loses in OT. Thanks again everyone, reading threads on here has helped me a lot. I used to play pro line and was tired of getting screwed so I joined pinnacle and love it, and with help from the information on this site, I have started the year 15-5. Peace and good luck to everyone.
Sorry I meant to say I can see myself betting a lot of reg ML... Not reg -0.5....
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
Thanks, this site is awesome. So basically no matter what side you pick reg ML... If the game goes to OT you push... and in order to win your -0.5 reg bet your team needs to win reg or you lose, but if you pick +0.5 then your pick wins in reg or makes it to overtime and either wins or losses in OT you still win your bet? The odds are so low for any +0.5, and the odds are usually around the same for -0.5 and ML overtime included, so from what I've just learned I can see myself betting a lot of -0.5.. It seems the best ratio of decent odds, yet covering yourself in case your team loses in OT. Thanks again everyone, reading threads on here has helped me a lot. I used to play pro line and was tired of getting screwed so I joined pinnacle and love it, and with help from the information on this site, I have started the year 15-5. Peace and good luck to everyone.
Sorry I meant to say I can see myself betting a lot of reg ML... Not reg -0.5....
I'm confused.. So if I pick ml ot included.. I can win at any point of the game... Easy to understand... Then.. Under regulation time I have two options... Both of which are obviously different from ml ot included.... I understand that if you bet -0.5 reg... That the only way you win your bet is if your team wins during regulation. If it goes to overtime you lose. Also easy to understand. So how can ml reg be different from both of these other bets and not mean that if you win in regulation you win, and if it goes to ot you push, weather your team wins or loses in ot??
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I'm confused.. So if I pick ml ot included.. I can win at any point of the game... Easy to understand... Then.. Under regulation time I have two options... Both of which are obviously different from ml ot included.... I understand that if you bet -0.5 reg... That the only way you win your bet is if your team wins during regulation. If it goes to overtime you lose. Also easy to understand. So how can ml reg be different from both of these other bets and not mean that if you win in regulation you win, and if it goes to ot you push, weather your team wins or loses in ot??
I'm confused.. So if I pick ml ot included.. I can win at any point of the game... Easy to understand... Then.. Under regulation time I have two options... Both of which are obviously different from ml ot included.... I understand that if you bet -0.5 reg... That the only way you win your bet is if your team wins during regulation. If it goes to overtime you lose. Also easy to understand. So how can ml reg be different from both of these other bets and not mean that if you win in regulation you win, and if it goes to ot you push, weather your team wins or loses in ot??
No, let's start over.
A regulation wager, -.5 or +.5 is just for regulation time which is 60 minutes. If the game goes to OT it makes no difference at all. You wager is just for the first 60 minutes.
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
I'm confused.. So if I pick ml ot included.. I can win at any point of the game... Easy to understand... Then.. Under regulation time I have two options... Both of which are obviously different from ml ot included.... I understand that if you bet -0.5 reg... That the only way you win your bet is if your team wins during regulation. If it goes to overtime you lose. Also easy to understand. So how can ml reg be different from both of these other bets and not mean that if you win in regulation you win, and if it goes to ot you push, weather your team wins or loses in ot??
No, let's start over.
A regulation wager, -.5 or +.5 is just for regulation time which is 60 minutes. If the game goes to OT it makes no difference at all. You wager is just for the first 60 minutes.
Exactly... So the guy that said that if I bet ml regulation, and the game goes to overtime, I lose my bet, was wrong, I neither win nor lose my bet I push. So ml ot included... My pick needs to win at any point of the game to win. Ml reg... If my pick wins in regulation I win and if it goes to overtime I push weather my pick wins or loses in overtime, -0.5... My pick has to win in regulation to win my bet, and +0.5 my pick has to either win the game at any point or simply make it as far as overtime to win my bet. This is the way it works correct?
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Exactly... So the guy that said that if I bet ml regulation, and the game goes to overtime, I lose my bet, was wrong, I neither win nor lose my bet I push. So ml ot included... My pick needs to win at any point of the game to win. Ml reg... If my pick wins in regulation I win and if it goes to overtime I push weather my pick wins or loses in overtime, -0.5... My pick has to win in regulation to win my bet, and +0.5 my pick has to either win the game at any point or simply make it as far as overtime to win my bet. This is the way it works correct?
If ot is irrelevant for both +0.5 and -0.5... Then why are the odds for +0.5 so low considering its for the underdog? It must mean that that underdog can either win, or just make it to overtime and still lose the game. If it was simply who wins the game in regulation, the +0.5 should be the highest odds.
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If ot is irrelevant for both +0.5 and -0.5... Then why are the odds for +0.5 so low considering its for the underdog? It must mean that that underdog can either win, or just make it to overtime and still lose the game. If it was simply who wins the game in regulation, the +0.5 should be the highest odds.
If ot is irrelevant for both +0.5 and -0.5... Then why are the odds for +0.5 so low considering its for the underdog? It must mean that that underdog can either win, or just make it to overtime and still lose the game. If it was simply who wins the game in regulation, the +0.5 should be the highest odds.
It is not advisable to play the +.5. You turn dogs into faves a good part of the time. If you think a game is going to be that close that you need the +.5 then you should wager that the game goes to OT. That pays back huuuuge. Like in the +300/350 range.
Again, if you play the +.5 you are paying about .65 of juice and that's just too big of an obstacle to overcome. If you like the dog, then play them on a ML.
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
If ot is irrelevant for both +0.5 and -0.5... Then why are the odds for +0.5 so low considering its for the underdog? It must mean that that underdog can either win, or just make it to overtime and still lose the game. If it was simply who wins the game in regulation, the +0.5 should be the highest odds.
It is not advisable to play the +.5. You turn dogs into faves a good part of the time. If you think a game is going to be that close that you need the +.5 then you should wager that the game goes to OT. That pays back huuuuge. Like in the +300/350 range.
Again, if you play the +.5 you are paying about .65 of juice and that's just too big of an obstacle to overcome. If you like the dog, then play them on a ML.
How do you bet for the game to go to overtime? And I apologize, but I still don't understand the +0.5 and -0.5. I get the ml. Ml ot included is flat out who wins the game, and ml regulation you win or lose in regulation and if it goes to overtime you push and get your bet back. And so... -0.5 means the pick has to win in regulation to win the bet, and if it does not and tbey lose in regukation OR the game goes to overtime despite the winner of the game, then you lose your bet? And if you bet on +0.5 all your pick has to do is either win the game in regulation OR simply make it to overtime even if they lose in overtime you win your bet?
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How do you bet for the game to go to overtime? And I apologize, but I still don't understand the +0.5 and -0.5. I get the ml. Ml ot included is flat out who wins the game, and ml regulation you win or lose in regulation and if it goes to overtime you push and get your bet back. And so... -0.5 means the pick has to win in regulation to win the bet, and if it does not and tbey lose in regukation OR the game goes to overtime despite the winner of the game, then you lose your bet? And if you bet on +0.5 all your pick has to do is either win the game in regulation OR simply make it to overtime even if they lose in overtime you win your bet?
Not all books offer a wager for an OT game, but a good bit do. Where you are in Nova Scotia you can use Pinnacle sports, which is one of the best books around. They offer it, also 5dimes offers an OT wager.
Now back to the -.5 or +.5 regulation wager. It's just for the first 60 minutes. It makes no difference what happens after that. Just the first 60 minutes counts. After regulation it doesn't make any difference what happens after that with a regulation wager.
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Not all books offer a wager for an OT game, but a good bit do. Where you are in Nova Scotia you can use Pinnacle sports, which is one of the best books around. They offer it, also 5dimes offers an OT wager.
Now back to the -.5 or +.5 regulation wager. It's just for the first 60 minutes. It makes no difference what happens after that. Just the first 60 minutes counts. After regulation it doesn't make any difference what happens after that with a regulation wager.
I am with pinnacle and love it.... So no matter which side you pick.. If you pick +0.5 or -0.5 and the game is tied after regulation and goes to overtime, you lose your bet? Is this correct? And if it is.. The. Why are the odds for the underdog (+0.5) so low? For instance, I use decimal, and I believe the odds for Montreal regulation money line were around 1.65, and Edmonton regulation money line around 2.35... Yet... Under regulation +0.5 (Edmonton), the odds are around 1.65, and Montreal (-0.5) are over 2.00?
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I am with pinnacle and love it.... So no matter which side you pick.. If you pick +0.5 or -0.5 and the game is tied after regulation and goes to overtime, you lose your bet? Is this correct? And if it is.. The. Why are the odds for the underdog (+0.5) so low? For instance, I use decimal, and I believe the odds for Montreal regulation money line were around 1.65, and Edmonton regulation money line around 2.35... Yet... Under regulation +0.5 (Edmonton), the odds are around 1.65, and Montreal (-0.5) are over 2.00?
The actual pinnicle odds on the different regulation bets for habs and oilers... Are ml habs 1.78 and oilers 2.16. This makes sense, Montreal is the favorite, and are paying less, oilers are the dog and odds are a bit higher. If what you say is true, and the -0.5 and +0.5 are flat out who wins the game by regulation, and if the game goes past regulation either +0.5 or -0.5 would both lose, the. Shouldn't the favorite and the dog stay the favorite and the dog, but have slightly higher odds for either team as the bet is the same as ml regulation, without the option of a push if the game goes past 60 minutes? But the dog and favorite are reversed as montreal the fave is -0.5 , but pays 2.34, and the dog oilers +0.5 pays 1.65?? Can you please explain how the dog and fave switch, when all you are doing betting the + or - 0.5 is betting your pick to only win in regulation without the option to push if the game goes to overtime like the regulation money line bet has??
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The actual pinnicle odds on the different regulation bets for habs and oilers... Are ml habs 1.78 and oilers 2.16. This makes sense, Montreal is the favorite, and are paying less, oilers are the dog and odds are a bit higher. If what you say is true, and the -0.5 and +0.5 are flat out who wins the game by regulation, and if the game goes past regulation either +0.5 or -0.5 would both lose, the. Shouldn't the favorite and the dog stay the favorite and the dog, but have slightly higher odds for either team as the bet is the same as ml regulation, without the option of a push if the game goes past 60 minutes? But the dog and favorite are reversed as montreal the fave is -0.5 , but pays 2.34, and the dog oilers +0.5 pays 1.65?? Can you please explain how the dog and fave switch, when all you are doing betting the + or - 0.5 is betting your pick to only win in regulation without the option to push if the game goes to overtime like the regulation money line bet has??
That is not correct. If you play the regulation wager of -.5 or +.5. It depends on which one you wagered on. If the game is tied at regulation you either add a half goal or take a goal off, depending on which way you played.
If the Montreal/Edmonton ends at a 1-1 tie at the end of regulation, you would win if you had +.5. You would lose if you had -.5. Again you just add or subtract a half goal depending on your wager.
I don't use decimal I use American Odds. But I still think we can connect here.
Montreal is -120 on the ML. If you play them at -.5 you get a +137 payback. So that is a huge difference. +.57 to be exact.
If you play Oilers ML you get a +109 payback, but if you take them +.5 you have made them into a -152 fave !!!! So again that is a huge difference. So it really isn't a good idea to play +.5's. You just have to eat so much juice.
The best way to play .5's is playing -.5's to get the juice down on bigger faves.
Now there is a another way by playing -1 lines. But that is a whole different discussion.
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That is not correct. If you play the regulation wager of -.5 or +.5. It depends on which one you wagered on. If the game is tied at regulation you either add a half goal or take a goal off, depending on which way you played.
If the Montreal/Edmonton ends at a 1-1 tie at the end of regulation, you would win if you had +.5. You would lose if you had -.5. Again you just add or subtract a half goal depending on your wager.
I don't use decimal I use American Odds. But I still think we can connect here.
Montreal is -120 on the ML. If you play them at -.5 you get a +137 payback. So that is a huge difference. +.57 to be exact.
If you play Oilers ML you get a +109 payback, but if you take them +.5 you have made them into a -152 fave !!!! So again that is a huge difference. So it really isn't a good idea to play +.5's. You just have to eat so much juice.
The best way to play .5's is playing -.5's to get the juice down on bigger faves.
Now there is a another way by playing -1 lines. But that is a whole different discussion.
I totally get it now.. But that's what I mentioned earlier in the post and you said I was incorrect lol. I said basically the -0.5 flat out has to win within regulation, and if its tied after reg you lose... But the +0.5 dog can win your bet by winning in reg, or simply making to overtime and losing. Either way I appreciate your patience and explanations. If you want to really impress me though... You can explain why the wild (best team along with the kings so far this year IMO) are underdogs going into nyr (who have not been very good this year so far at all) tonight? :)
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I totally get it now.. But that's what I mentioned earlier in the post and you said I was incorrect lol. I said basically the -0.5 flat out has to win within regulation, and if its tied after reg you lose... But the +0.5 dog can win your bet by winning in reg, or simply making to overtime and losing. Either way I appreciate your patience and explanations. If you want to really impress me though... You can explain why the wild (best team along with the kings so far this year IMO) are underdogs going into nyr (who have not been very good this year so far at all) tonight? :)
. If you want to really impress me though... You can explain why the wild (best team along with the kings so far this year IMO) are underdogs going into nyr (who have not been very good this year so far at all) tonight? :)
Well it's almost a coin flip on the line right now. Rangers being at 4-4 and the visiting Wild at 4-2. The Wild also have a losing 1-2 record on the road. Add to that the Wild have not scored a PP all year.
So I think the line is exactly where it should be. Personally I am playing un 5 on the game.
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
. If you want to really impress me though... You can explain why the wild (best team along with the kings so far this year IMO) are underdogs going into nyr (who have not been very good this year so far at all) tonight? :)
Well it's almost a coin flip on the line right now. Rangers being at 4-4 and the visiting Wild at 4-2. The Wild also have a losing 1-2 record on the road. Add to that the Wild have not scored a PP all year.
So I think the line is exactly where it should be. Personally I am playing un 5 on the game.
Nice call. I agree on your pick, however, I believe minisota are playing better hockey right now. I'd like to know who their two road losses are to. It also shocks me that the wild have done so well so far this year and have not scored a pp goal so far! Imagine if they get their pp going though...
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Nice call. I agree on your pick, however, I believe minisota are playing better hockey right now. I'd like to know who their two road losses are to. It also shocks me that the wild have done so well so far this year and have not scored a pp goal so far! Imagine if they get their pp going though...
Nice call. I agree on your pick, however, I believe minisota are playing better hockey right now. I'd like to know who their two road losses are to. It also shocks me that the wild have done so well so far this year and have not scored a pp goal so far! Imagine if they get their pp going though...
The Wild losses were to very good teams by the same 1-2 score. Kings and Ducks.
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
Nice call. I agree on your pick, however, I believe minisota are playing better hockey right now. I'd like to know who their two road losses are to. It also shocks me that the wild have done so well so far this year and have not scored a pp goal so far! Imagine if they get their pp going though...
The Wild losses were to very good teams by the same 1-2 score. Kings and Ducks.
Well then something does not seem right about the odds being about even. And I'll have to disagree with you about them looking right at even. Nyr have not looked good at all so far, and the wild have looked better then everyone except the kings maybe.
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Well then something does not seem right about the odds being about even. And I'll have to disagree with you about them looking right at even. Nyr have not looked good at all so far, and the wild have looked better then everyone except the kings maybe.
Well then something does not seem right about the odds being about even. And I'll have to disagree with you about them looking right at even. Nyr have not looked good at all so far, and the wild have looked better then everyone except the kings maybe.
Well then if you see value in the Wild you should take them.
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Quote Originally Posted by UndertakerNS:
Well then something does not seem right about the odds being about even. And I'll have to disagree with you about them looking right at even. Nyr have not looked good at all so far, and the wild have looked better then everyone except the kings maybe.
Well then if you see value in the Wild you should take them.
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