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He went from a sub .500 pitcher into one of the nastiest and best control pitchers in the MLB within a couple years. He also has a steroid beard and his physique is impressive.

I remember betting against him at the end of last season because I thought he was the same Arrieta of Baltimore. I think I lost like 2 grand fading him on 3 or 4 starts and I gave up.

One year later, the guy is on the same level as Kershaw and Greinke. I have Cubs first five here so I hope I'm not jinxing myself but yeah, just thought I'd mention that this guy is obviously on roids.

As I was writing this, Schwarber crushed a 2 run shot.

Anyways, I don't care if they are on roids! Make me some money, go Cubs!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by routinewin:

He went from a sub .500 pitcher into one of the nastiest and best control pitchers in the MLB within a couple years. He also has a steroid beard and his physique is impressive.

I remember betting against him at the end of last season because I thought he was the same Arrieta of Baltimore. I think I lost like 2 grand fading him on 3 or 4 starts and I gave up.

One year later, the guy is on the same level as Kershaw and Greinke. I have Cubs first five here so I hope I'm not jinxing myself but yeah, just thought I'd mention that this guy is obviously on roids.

As I was writing this, Schwarber crushed a 2 run shot.

Anyways, I don't care if they are on roids! Make me some money, go Cubs!

Your an idiot. Arrieta isnt Chapman. He isnt throwing fastballs at 100 MPH. His breaking ball and curveball are his main pitches. No steroids can improve that. 
 
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they test for that....maybe human growth hormone....reports say hes been tested 3 times this year
 
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Not velocity--it's a 4th pitch that he has developed, looks fastball but is a slider. Humans can learrn no?
 
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I don't know why steroids is a taboo thing. I hope all the teams I bet on have guys abusing steroids heavily. It only helps me make money.

The irony of fellow gamblers having a moral high ground stance on somebody abusing steroids is hilarious. Also the typing of "Your an idiot." You are not very bright, sir.

Anyways Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Pete Rose are all hall of famers in my book. I don't care if they abuse performance enhancing drugs, JUST COVER THE SPREAD

Bottom line is this: I don't care what you use
 
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I don't know if Arrieta is on roids or not, but I'm with ya - it doesn't bother me when players do it. You make a good point about his remarkable turnaround, but who knows.

The only way to have a totally even playing field is to have no restrictions at all. As it is now, some cheat and some don't. That'll never change.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by routinewin:

I don't know why steroids is a taboo thing. I hope all the teams I bet on have guys abusing steroids heavily. It only helps me make money.

The irony of fellow gamblers having a moral high ground stance on somebody abusing steroids is hilarious. Also the typing of "Your an idiot." You are not very bright, sir.

Anyways Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Pete Rose are all hall of famers in my book. I don't care if they abuse performance enhancing drugs, JUST COVER THE SPREAD

Bottom line is this: I don't care what you use
If you use roids, you could surpass the distances which the game has developed, and then we will have to make longer fences (for example). And all drugs have side effects. I can imagine 100,000 young little leaguers using roids--having all kinds of side effects--just to play in the bigs one day . Only 3% of little leaguers ever play in college. Of those 3%, only 1% play in the major leagues. Not worth it to see thousands of young players taking steroids , phuqing up their health, for a small chance to play for big bucks. Rules suck, but people need this rule.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

If you use roids, you could surpass the distances which the game has developed, and then we will have to make longer fences (for example). And all drugs have side effects. I can imagine 100,000 young little leaguers using roids--having all kinds of side effects--just to play in the bigs one day . Only 3% of little leaguers ever play in college. Of those 3%, only 1% play in the major leagues. Not worth it to see thousands of young players taking steroids , phuqing up their health, for a small chance to play for big bucks. Rules suck, but people need this rule.


I disagree. A wise man once said, "Get rich, or die tryin'."

I believe it was Confucius or perhaps Nietzche
 
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Aside from the obvious that's already been stated in the face of your assertion (and one you've noticeably failed to address with a counterpoint, that being steroid use would not aid the key pitches he throws), the fact remains he went from the best division in the AL to one of the weakest (at the time) in the NL. Much easier to improve your craft when you're facing lesser opposition & get to face the opposing pitcher with some regularity. His last season ERA with the O's was 7.23, his first season ERA for the Cubs was 3.66: no coincidence his immediate improvement followed the switch of leagues. To assert it was due to his choosing to use steroids at that specific point in time fails Occam's razor.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sandique:

Aside from the obvious that's already been stated in the face of your assertion (and one you've noticeably failed to address with a counterpoint, that being steroid use would not aid the key pitches he throws), the fact remains he went from the best division in the AL to one of the weakest (at the time) in the NL. Much easier to improve your craft when you're facing lesser opposition & get to face the opposing pitcher with some regularity. His last season ERA with the O's was 7.23, his first season ERA for the Cubs was 3.66: no coincidence his immediate improvement followed the switch of leagues. To assert it was due to his choosing to use steroids at that specific point in time fails Occam's razor.
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"Cool, I wish you were my lover."
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whats a "steroid beard"???...pardon my ignorance.
 
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when one starts cycles with steroids, it lead to much more testosterone development leading to excessive facial hair... think brian wilson, eric gagne etc.

or dont trust me, just google it.
 
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oh yea,okay.......was thinking it was to disguise abnormal jawline development like wat dwyane wade has...dudes jaw has just exploded since about 2 years into his pro career..and he been rolling with the beard the last few years also....and we all hear the rumours around him and lebron juicing.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sandique:

Aside from the obvious that's already been stated in the face of your assertion (and one you've noticeably failed to address with a counterpoint, that being steroid use would not aid the key pitches he throws), the fact remains he went from the best division in the AL to one of the weakest (at the time) in the NL. Much easier to improve your craft when you're facing lesser opposition & get to face the opposing pitcher with some regularity. His last season ERA with the O's was 7.23, his first season ERA for the Cubs was 3.66: no coincidence his immediate improvement followed the switch of leagues. To assert it was due to his choosing to use steroids at that specific point in time fails Occam's razor.
 
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