not much time today so i'm just going to run through the lines. but first, our thursday night system cruised to an easy 5-0 last week. thanks to the nfl for scheduling pagano on thursday night.
some members, or one member, might disagree but i would say no play this week. i think dallas has done an amazing job this year and they have been so good at coaching to their strengths and avoiding mistakes or going off script. and i like minnesota's coach as well. they've really been decimated since before the season started and are still in contention. also, they are pretty banged up this week.
also we won our ClubDirtSports College [only] Game of the Year with FSU. interesting that FSU was only 7.5 at home and now Alabama is 24 at a neutral site. i know alabama is the best but FSU has some possibly the best offensive player in college and some major weapons and were at home after florida had a huge sec game. this line seems inflated.
now, on to the games:
Dallas @ Minn +3.5 dallas coming off a big division game although it's not a short week and now on the road playing a very strong defense (when healthy). diggs should be back on offense too. i'll normally take the underdog in that situation. not sure i'll play a thursday game though. thursday games are fucking stupid.
Denver @ Jax +5 some odd line movement last week pushed buffalo up to 9. Jax would have been an auto play at that point but i had buffalo on my sheet so i just wrote that game off. tough loss for denver last week. their reliable defense embarrassed themselves. now they are in trouble for the playoffs. so, this is a huge game. given that, the line seems fair. if denver's defense plays better and angry, Jax should have major problems.
KC @ Atlanta -4 very nice win by Atl last week. same for KC. i have KC as the better team here so anything more than 3 looks like value to me. but, it's a lot to ask for KC to come back and play well on the road after a brutal game at denvr last week. plus, KC has a short week and oakland coming up. not a great situation for KC here.
Det @ NO -5 two more teams that had nice wins last week. NO is cruising at home like they used to. detroit is playing well and they have kept scores down but they have played two of three against a bad minn offense, a terrible houston offense and the getty's. this will be much more difficult. if their defense is truly better, they can win. if not, it could get ugly the way NO is playing. i would have the line at 4 but this is basically the same thing.
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not much time today so i'm just going to run through the lines. but first, our thursday night system cruised to an easy 5-0 last week. thanks to the nfl for scheduling pagano on thursday night.
some members, or one member, might disagree but i would say no play this week. i think dallas has done an amazing job this year and they have been so good at coaching to their strengths and avoiding mistakes or going off script. and i like minnesota's coach as well. they've really been decimated since before the season started and are still in contention. also, they are pretty banged up this week.
also we won our ClubDirtSports College [only] Game of the Year with FSU. interesting that FSU was only 7.5 at home and now Alabama is 24 at a neutral site. i know alabama is the best but FSU has some possibly the best offensive player in college and some major weapons and were at home after florida had a huge sec game. this line seems inflated.
now, on to the games:
Dallas @ Minn +3.5 dallas coming off a big division game although it's not a short week and now on the road playing a very strong defense (when healthy). diggs should be back on offense too. i'll normally take the underdog in that situation. not sure i'll play a thursday game though. thursday games are fucking stupid.
Denver @ Jax +5 some odd line movement last week pushed buffalo up to 9. Jax would have been an auto play at that point but i had buffalo on my sheet so i just wrote that game off. tough loss for denver last week. their reliable defense embarrassed themselves. now they are in trouble for the playoffs. so, this is a huge game. given that, the line seems fair. if denver's defense plays better and angry, Jax should have major problems.
KC @ Atlanta -4 very nice win by Atl last week. same for KC. i have KC as the better team here so anything more than 3 looks like value to me. but, it's a lot to ask for KC to come back and play well on the road after a brutal game at denvr last week. plus, KC has a short week and oakland coming up. not a great situation for KC here.
Det @ NO -5 two more teams that had nice wins last week. NO is cruising at home like they used to. detroit is playing well and they have kept scores down but they have played two of three against a bad minn offense, a terrible houston offense and the getty's. this will be much more difficult. if their defense is truly better, they can win. if not, it could get ugly the way NO is playing. i would have the line at 4 but this is basically the same thing.
SF @ Chicago SF got the backdoor cover last week so that's something positive for the team. chicago played ok with barkley. that's also a big plus. i like chicago much better than SF and have taken them often but hard to tell what the motivation will be for these teams. not sure i can endorse taking SF at less than 3 on the road ever. maybe this line is saying SF will have the better effort this week.
LA @ NE when NE went up to 9 last week on the road, that became an auto play. there are only two teams that should be 8 or more at home and the jets aren't one of them (yes, the 49ers and shrimps ). the rams have it tough going into NO when they are killing it on offense and now go to NE after they played a pretty bad game. in fact, NE hasn't had an impressive win in a while. this could be it. cyrax will tell me not to push my luch going against NE here. he's probably right. but, this is too many points and the rams do tend to surprise in games like this.
Miami @ Shrimps -3.5 friggin shrimps got me last week. couldn't overcome tucker who kicked 3 long field goals for the cover. anyway, i do like this matchup for the shrimps. miami has won 6 in a row but they aren't that good. and this is the best defense they've played, at least since week one when they got 10 against the seahawks. hate to give more than 3 with the shrimps and as soon as i bet the shrimps and lose there will be hell to pay, but i like this spot for them.
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SF @ Chicago SF got the backdoor cover last week so that's something positive for the team. chicago played ok with barkley. that's also a big plus. i like chicago much better than SF and have taken them often but hard to tell what the motivation will be for these teams. not sure i can endorse taking SF at less than 3 on the road ever. maybe this line is saying SF will have the better effort this week.
LA @ NE when NE went up to 9 last week on the road, that became an auto play. there are only two teams that should be 8 or more at home and the jets aren't one of them (yes, the 49ers and shrimps ). the rams have it tough going into NO when they are killing it on offense and now go to NE after they played a pretty bad game. in fact, NE hasn't had an impressive win in a while. this could be it. cyrax will tell me not to push my luch going against NE here. he's probably right. but, this is too many points and the rams do tend to surprise in games like this.
Miami @ Shrimps -3.5 friggin shrimps got me last week. couldn't overcome tucker who kicked 3 long field goals for the cover. anyway, i do like this matchup for the shrimps. miami has won 6 in a row but they aren't that good. and this is the best defense they've played, at least since week one when they got 10 against the seahawks. hate to give more than 3 with the shrimps and as soon as i bet the shrimps and lose there will be hell to pay, but i like this spot for them.
Buffalo @ Oakland -3 got my oakland fade in last week that i've been waiting for. fortunately i made it an oakland defens fade by going with the carolina total and that came through easily after a slow start. i'll continue to look to fade them each week because a team with a defense this bad just can't be consistently good. buffalo is solid but they've had more trouble scoring lately than they should. they will need to take advantage of oakland's defense to win or keep it close. i think they can.
i predicted this to be 4. i think vegas agrees with me and isn't giving oakland respect. buffalo lost 3 straight and then struggled to beat two teams with a total of 5 wins and they are basically even on a neutral field with a 9-2 team in the toughest division. i would like more points t take buffalo but that tells you what vegas thinks of oakland.
TB @ SD -4 ok, someone needs to figure out this TB team. i know they aren't any good but they just beat two very good teams and haven't given up point sin 3 weeks. that should change this week as SD will score against anyone but i worry about SD's defense as a favorite. they lose key players every week. i'll lean to SD but am concerned about their problems and TB being a difficult team to figure.
again, i think vegas agrees with me. TB is killing it the last three weeks and is in the race to win their division while SD has been up and down and is probably out of the playoffs. yet, SD is 4 while oakland is 3??
Wash @ AZ -2.5 i am probably the last person to hold out any hope for AZ. this might be my last week. although again, vegas agrees as AZ is -2.5 and has no business being favored here. AZ should be able to score at will if they can get their garbage together. to me, it depends on their defense which got annihilated last week. Wash hasn't done anything especial on the road since beating a lowly shrimps team weeks ago, including that tie against a bengals team we now know is bad.
NYG @ Pitt -5.5 pitt basically had a bye last week getting indy on a short week with no QB. yet, they really didn't play well. but that happens on thursdays. NYG didn't play well either but they were in a letdown situation. i expect both teams to play better this week. again, you have to look at the giants and understand they haven't been on the road much and haven't done anything good on the road since week one. i'd lean to pitt here although 5.5 is higher than i wanted to see. it really should be closer to 3.5.
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Buffalo @ Oakland -3 got my oakland fade in last week that i've been waiting for. fortunately i made it an oakland defens fade by going with the carolina total and that came through easily after a slow start. i'll continue to look to fade them each week because a team with a defense this bad just can't be consistently good. buffalo is solid but they've had more trouble scoring lately than they should. they will need to take advantage of oakland's defense to win or keep it close. i think they can.
i predicted this to be 4. i think vegas agrees with me and isn't giving oakland respect. buffalo lost 3 straight and then struggled to beat two teams with a total of 5 wins and they are basically even on a neutral field with a 9-2 team in the toughest division. i would like more points t take buffalo but that tells you what vegas thinks of oakland.
TB @ SD -4 ok, someone needs to figure out this TB team. i know they aren't any good but they just beat two very good teams and haven't given up point sin 3 weeks. that should change this week as SD will score against anyone but i worry about SD's defense as a favorite. they lose key players every week. i'll lean to SD but am concerned about their problems and TB being a difficult team to figure.
again, i think vegas agrees with me. TB is killing it the last three weeks and is in the race to win their division while SD has been up and down and is probably out of the playoffs. yet, SD is 4 while oakland is 3??
Wash @ AZ -2.5 i am probably the last person to hold out any hope for AZ. this might be my last week. although again, vegas agrees as AZ is -2.5 and has no business being favored here. AZ should be able to score at will if they can get their garbage together. to me, it depends on their defense which got annihilated last week. Wash hasn't done anything especial on the road since beating a lowly shrimps team weeks ago, including that tie against a bengals team we now know is bad.
NYG @ Pitt -5.5 pitt basically had a bye last week getting indy on a short week with no QB. yet, they really didn't play well. but that happens on thursdays. NYG didn't play well either but they were in a letdown situation. i expect both teams to play better this week. again, you have to look at the giants and understand they haven't been on the road much and haven't done anything good on the road since week one. i'd lean to pitt here although 5.5 is higher than i wanted to see. it really should be closer to 3.5.
Car @ Seattle what the darn was that. probably the worst bet of the season betting Sea team total last week. how do you score 5 against TB? anywya, i'm going to write that off and forget about it for seattle. they are at home here, they do well after losses and carolina is a mess. i was hoping for under 7 but i understand the line. possible play on seattle or maybe another team total over. as bad as that one was, we are 2-1 on seattle team totals.
ok, what else?
Houston @ GB i thought that line was off last night. i think vegas flipped the lines for Wash v GB and Philly vs. GB. philly isn't as good as wash. anyway, houston has been fairly predictable. terrible offense. pretty good defense. i don't see that changing but GB has a terrible defense so houston could put up some points. and GB's offense isn't cured after last night and houston could give them trouble like many other teams have. i guess i'd set this at GB -2.5/3 but i don't think this is a great matchup for GB.
Philly @ Cincy lewis should be fired by gametime for losing to the shrimps. hard to predict when, if ever, cincy is going to play well. they probably will at some point but who knows when. philly is a 7-8 win team. so they could go either way here. at cincy, i'd probably set this at Philly -1.
Indy @ NYJ have to run. need to know if luck is playing anyway. they are horrible without him. if there is anything close to a one man team in football, this is it.
i don't see any lines that jump out at me. so far, when we've bet early, every line has been considerably worse on game day or stayed the same. i'll try and find a line mover when i get back, if i can.
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Car @ Seattle what the darn was that. probably the worst bet of the season betting Sea team total last week. how do you score 5 against TB? anywya, i'm going to write that off and forget about it for seattle. they are at home here, they do well after losses and carolina is a mess. i was hoping for under 7 but i understand the line. possible play on seattle or maybe another team total over. as bad as that one was, we are 2-1 on seattle team totals.
ok, what else?
Houston @ GB i thought that line was off last night. i think vegas flipped the lines for Wash v GB and Philly vs. GB. philly isn't as good as wash. anyway, houston has been fairly predictable. terrible offense. pretty good defense. i don't see that changing but GB has a terrible defense so houston could put up some points. and GB's offense isn't cured after last night and houston could give them trouble like many other teams have. i guess i'd set this at GB -2.5/3 but i don't think this is a great matchup for GB.
Philly @ Cincy lewis should be fired by gametime for losing to the shrimps. hard to predict when, if ever, cincy is going to play well. they probably will at some point but who knows when. philly is a 7-8 win team. so they could go either way here. at cincy, i'd probably set this at Philly -1.
Indy @ NYJ have to run. need to know if luck is playing anyway. they are horrible without him. if there is anything close to a one man team in football, this is it.
i don't see any lines that jump out at me. so far, when we've bet early, every line has been considerably worse on game day or stayed the same. i'll try and find a line mover when i get back, if i can.
not much time today so i'm just going to run through the lines. but first, our thursday night system cruised to an easy 5-0 last week. thanks to the nfl for scheduling pagano on thursday night.
some members, or one member, might disagree but i would say no play this week. i think dallas has done an amazing job this year and they have been so good at coaching to their strengths and avoiding mistakes or going off script. and i like minnesota's coach as well. they've really been decimated since before the season started and are still in contention. also, they are pretty banged up this week.
also we won our ClubDirtSports College [only] Game of the Year with FSU. interesting that FSU was only 7.5 at home and now Alabama is 24 at a neutral site. i know alabama is the best but FSU has some possibly the best offensive player in college and some major weapons and were at home after florida had a huge sec game. this line seems inflated.
now, on to the games:
Dallas @ Minn +3.5 dallas coming off a big division game although it's not a short week and now on the road playing a very strong defense (when healthy). diggs should be back on offense too. i'll normally take the underdog in that situation. not sure i'll play a thursday game though. thursday games are friggin stupid.
Denver @ Jax +5 some odd line movement last week pushed buffalo up to 9. Jax would have been an auto play at that point but i had buffalo on my sheet so i just wrote that game off. tough loss for denver last week. their reliable defense embarrassed themselves. now they are in trouble for the playoffs. so, this is a huge game. given that, the line seems fair. if denver's defense plays better and angry, Jax should have major problems.
KC @ Atlanta -4 very nice win by Atl last week. same for KC. i have KC as the better team here so anything more than 3 looks like value to me. but, it's a lot to ask for KC to come back and play well on the road after a brutal game at denvr last week. plus, KC has a short week and oakland coming up. not a great situation for KC here.
Det @ NO -5 two more teams that had nice wins last week. NO is cruising at home like they used to. detroit is playing well and they have kept scores down but they have played two of three against a bad minn offense, a terrible houston offense and the getty's. this will be much more difficult. if their defense is truly better, they can win. if not, it could get ugly the way NO is playing. i would have the line at 4 but this is basically the same thing.
Florida, one thing is certain, they will have a hard time scoring.That being said if they can keep it close in the 1st qtr that 24 looms large.I dont see Saban trying to run up the score.Still very dicey though.I lean Bama.
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YTD 25 - 28
not much time today so i'm just going to run through the lines. but first, our thursday night system cruised to an easy 5-0 last week. thanks to the nfl for scheduling pagano on thursday night.
some members, or one member, might disagree but i would say no play this week. i think dallas has done an amazing job this year and they have been so good at coaching to their strengths and avoiding mistakes or going off script. and i like minnesota's coach as well. they've really been decimated since before the season started and are still in contention. also, they are pretty banged up this week.
also we won our ClubDirtSports College [only] Game of the Year with FSU. interesting that FSU was only 7.5 at home and now Alabama is 24 at a neutral site. i know alabama is the best but FSU has some possibly the best offensive player in college and some major weapons and were at home after florida had a huge sec game. this line seems inflated.
now, on to the games:
Dallas @ Minn +3.5 dallas coming off a big division game although it's not a short week and now on the road playing a very strong defense (when healthy). diggs should be back on offense too. i'll normally take the underdog in that situation. not sure i'll play a thursday game though. thursday games are friggin stupid.
Denver @ Jax +5 some odd line movement last week pushed buffalo up to 9. Jax would have been an auto play at that point but i had buffalo on my sheet so i just wrote that game off. tough loss for denver last week. their reliable defense embarrassed themselves. now they are in trouble for the playoffs. so, this is a huge game. given that, the line seems fair. if denver's defense plays better and angry, Jax should have major problems.
KC @ Atlanta -4 very nice win by Atl last week. same for KC. i have KC as the better team here so anything more than 3 looks like value to me. but, it's a lot to ask for KC to come back and play well on the road after a brutal game at denvr last week. plus, KC has a short week and oakland coming up. not a great situation for KC here.
Det @ NO -5 two more teams that had nice wins last week. NO is cruising at home like they used to. detroit is playing well and they have kept scores down but they have played two of three against a bad minn offense, a terrible houston offense and the getty's. this will be much more difficult. if their defense is truly better, they can win. if not, it could get ugly the way NO is playing. i would have the line at 4 but this is basically the same thing.
Florida, one thing is certain, they will have a hard time scoring.That being said if they can keep it close in the 1st qtr that 24 looms large.I dont see Saban trying to run up the score.Still very dicey though.I lean Bama.
Buffalo @ Oakland -3 got my oakland fade in last week that i've been waiting for. fortunately i made it an oakland defens fade by going with the carolina total and that came through easily after a slow start. i'll continue to look to fade them each week because a team with a defense this bad just can't be consistently good. buffalo is solid but they've had more trouble scoring lately than they should. they will need to take advantage of oakland's defense to win or keep it close. i think they can.
i predicted this to be 4. i think vegas agrees with me and isn't giving oakland respect. buffalo lost 3 straight and then struggled to beat two teams with a total of 5 wins and they are basically even on a neutral field with a 9-2 team in the toughest division. i would like more points t take buffalo but that tells you what vegas thinks of oakland.
TB @ SD -4 ok, someone needs to figure out this TB team. i know they aren't any good but they just beat two very good teams and haven't given up point sin 3 weeks. that should change this week as SD will score against anyone but i worry about SD's defense as a favorite. they lose key players every week. i'll lean to SD but am concerned about their problems and TB being a difficult team to figure.
again, i think vegas agrees with me. TB is killing it the last three weeks and is in the race to win their division while SD has been up and down and is probably out of the playoffs. yet, SD is 4 while oakland is 3??
Wash @ AZ -2.5 i am probably the last person to hold out any hope for AZ. this might be my last week. although again, vegas agrees as AZ is -2.5 and has no business being favored here. AZ should be able to score at will if they can get their garbage together. to me, it depends on their defense which got annihilated last week. Wash hasn't done anything especial on the road since beating a lowly shrimps team weeks ago, including that tie against a bengals team we now know is bad.
NYG @ Pitt -5.5 pitt basically had a bye last week getting indy on a short week with no QB. yet, they really didn't play well. but that happens on thursdays. NYG didn't play well either but they were in a letdown situation. i expect both teams to play better this week. again, you have to look at the giants and understand they haven't been on the road much and haven't done anything good on the road since week one. i'd lean to pitt here although 5.5 is higher than i wanted to see. it really should be closer to 3.5.
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Buffalo @ Oakland -3 got my oakland fade in last week that i've been waiting for. fortunately i made it an oakland defens fade by going with the carolina total and that came through easily after a slow start. i'll continue to look to fade them each week because a team with a defense this bad just can't be consistently good. buffalo is solid but they've had more trouble scoring lately than they should. they will need to take advantage of oakland's defense to win or keep it close. i think they can.
i predicted this to be 4. i think vegas agrees with me and isn't giving oakland respect. buffalo lost 3 straight and then struggled to beat two teams with a total of 5 wins and they are basically even on a neutral field with a 9-2 team in the toughest division. i would like more points t take buffalo but that tells you what vegas thinks of oakland.
TB @ SD -4 ok, someone needs to figure out this TB team. i know they aren't any good but they just beat two very good teams and haven't given up point sin 3 weeks. that should change this week as SD will score against anyone but i worry about SD's defense as a favorite. they lose key players every week. i'll lean to SD but am concerned about their problems and TB being a difficult team to figure.
again, i think vegas agrees with me. TB is killing it the last three weeks and is in the race to win their division while SD has been up and down and is probably out of the playoffs. yet, SD is 4 while oakland is 3??
Wash @ AZ -2.5 i am probably the last person to hold out any hope for AZ. this might be my last week. although again, vegas agrees as AZ is -2.5 and has no business being favored here. AZ should be able to score at will if they can get their garbage together. to me, it depends on their defense which got annihilated last week. Wash hasn't done anything especial on the road since beating a lowly shrimps team weeks ago, including that tie against a bengals team we now know is bad.
NYG @ Pitt -5.5 pitt basically had a bye last week getting indy on a short week with no QB. yet, they really didn't play well. but that happens on thursdays. NYG didn't play well either but they were in a letdown situation. i expect both teams to play better this week. again, you have to look at the giants and understand they haven't been on the road much and haven't done anything good on the road since week one. i'd lean to pitt here although 5.5 is higher than i wanted to see. it really should be closer to 3.5.
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