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There is no longer. It&#x27;s an official Covers policy. You MAY NOT make any negative comments in regard to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, EXCEPT white people and Christians.Thanks for clearing that up CT.....

Matador · Answer

There is no longer. It&#x27;s an official Covers policy. You MAY NOT make any negative comments in regard to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, EXCEPT white people and Christians.Thanks for clearing that up CT.....

3rd_and_Long · Answer

.....unless you are fit4life511 of course.

SecondAgain · Answer

You deserved to be boxed, but so does fit4life

cubsin08 · Answer

The rats got you.

Matador · Answer

Agreed. So where is that racist fuck?

SecondAgain · Answer

That&#x27;s the million dollar question. I think behind the scenes they may be considering skipping the boxing altogether

HutchEmAll · Answer

Never thought I&#x27;d see Matador in here.  &#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Hope you are out soon.  Without your logic and good sense (no offense to RinkRat, KOAJ, kujayhawk, etc.) the political forum will probably be over-run with lunatics.  &#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;At least you compensated a poor play on Romney with a solid play on Obama for the nomination....I didn&#x27;t even do that.

Matador · Answer

Hutch --It&#x27;s not a problem really. Same rules should apply to everyone. I&#x27;m just trying to make a point of the double standard that exists here so I posted something about as offensive as what FitForLifeBehindBars posts just about every day. I made my point. All great civil rights leaders have to pay the price with their freedom........

SecondAgain · Answer

hutch, it currently is over-run by lunatics. When the JimmyJack came in I went out

vanzack · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by Matador] There is no longer. It&#x27;s an official Covers policy. You MAY NOT make any negative comments in regard to race, gender, ethnicity, religion, EXCEPT white people and Christians.Thanks for clearing that up CT.....&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Matador -&#xD;&#xA;Let me make one comment precisely at your above post.&#xD;&#xA;Race, gender, and ethnicity are inherent in humans and not choices to be associated by the indidual.&#xD;&#xA;Religion is a choice.  And some people make inferences in to that choice depending upon the religion the other chooses.  Some people call Tom Cruise crazy, some think Christians are crazy.&#xD;&#xA;But just like any group that you choose to associate yourself with - you are fair game.  Religion holds no exemption on the "Im offended" card.  If I am a Giants fan and someone says "all giants fans are dumb", it is very different than saying to a black person "all black people are dumb".&#xD;&#xA;Religions dont have an exemption from criticism, as does race issues to some degree.  If your religion is reputable it should hold up under scrutiny and you should welcome it and not be offended.&#xD;&#xA;I hope that clears up your statement.

Odomisinthemob · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by vanzack]  &#xD;&#xA;Matador -&#xD;&#xA;Let me make one comment precisely at your above post.&#xD;&#xA;Race, gender, and ethnicity are inherent in humans and not choices to be associated by the indidual.&#xD;&#xA;Religion is a choice.&#xA0; And some people make inferences in to that choice depending upon the religion the other chooses.&#xA0; Some people call Tom Cruise crazy, some think Christians are crazy.&#xD;&#xA;But just like any group that you choose to associate yourself with - you are fair game.&#xA0; Religion holds no exemption on the "Im offended" card.&#xA0; If I am a Giants fan and someone says "all giants fans are dumb", it is very different than saying&#xA0;to a black person "all black people are dumb".&#xD;&#xA;Religions dont have an exemption from criticism, as does race issues to some degree.&#xA0; If your religion is reputable it should hold up under scrutiny and you should welcome it and not be offended.&#xD;&#xA;I hope that clears up your statement.  [/Quote]Vanzack

SecondAgain · Answer

&#xD;&#xA;He&#x27;s boxed now

Matador · Answer

Van --I don&#x27;t see how that&#x27;s really relevant. I&#x27;m comparing apples to apples. In this case, religions to religions. Try to write things offensive to person and Muslims and see where it gets you. Write the same thing about Christians though, and it&#x27;s not a problem.Same thing in regard to race. All I&#x27;m asking for is a little consistency. There is just one racial group you can denigrate to no end of offensiveness and absolutely nothing happens. Guess which?Just the facts.

Matador · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by SecondAgain]  &#xD;&#xA;He&#x27;s boxed now  [/Quote]Good. What took them so long? Is this a change of policy? Hope so. End this ridiculous double standard, and there will be an end to the racial nonsense.

Football_Expert · Answer

Ban all these fucks and bring dad back.&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Dad has redeeming qualities all these others lack.

attorney_at_law · Answer

Dad was one of the good ones.  Bring him back

KOAJ · Answer

Matador -

When i saw your name attached to those posts i was blown away.

I'm not sure what you were trying to convey...if it was sarcastic, if it was satire, or if it was real. Either way, it came off very badly.

Mods are not here to decide what society deems to be racist or not. We're just trying to keep order in the forums and follow Covers' manifesto and basic societal rules of good taste.

I'm no different than anyone who posts on the site other than the fact that Covers trusts my judgement to help keep order.

I hate that I'm one of the very few sane Republicans in the politics forum now.

Matador · Answer

KOAJ --It was to make a point. As I said, it was measured to be about equally offensive to what FFLBB had written, and written in RESPONSE. Check the sequence.Point taken? Well, you guys were forced to box FFLBB, so I guess that&#x27;s worth something. What was the difference between comments he made in that thread and dozens of other comments he&#x27;s made that are equally offensive? Somebody responded and blew the thing up. Covers had to take notice.Does this signal a change? I wish it did, but I doubt it. Personally, I prefer a more lax policing policy all the way around, but what I really don&#x27;t like is the double standard. I can hold my own rhetorically with just about anyone, but to let people take racial pot shots while others can&#x27;t retaliate is just plain unfair and unamerican.

vanzack · Answer

&#xD;&#xA;That is a different story.&#xD;&#xA;Sorry for misinterpreting your original point.

KOAJ · Answer

i figured as much...ive read you for a few years and thought someone hacked your account for a day after reading the thread

its either we box everyone or box no one...either way, the mods are blamed for doing too much or doing too little

i would like less policing as well but that means that we have to trust that posters are responsible and mature...

like i always have, i will continue to do my best to keep order on the site. we all do

do me a favor...if you see something like this again, just post a link in covers help and one of us will take care of it

HutchEmAll · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by SecondAgain] &#xD;&#xA;hutch, it currently is over-run by lunatics. When the JimmyJack came in I went out&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;JJ is gone.  &#xD;&#xA;I&#x27;m not going to debate the validity of Matador&#x27;s boxing....I didn&#x27;t even read the thread.  From what I see, they both got the same treatment (a race relations covers coup if I can call it that).  &#xD;&#xA;I like to debate as much as the next guy..I personally think Matador is worth debating (although I&#x27;m not sure I disagree with most of his points)....I haven&#x27;t come to that conclusion with Fit4beingbiased.  &#xD;&#xA;But what do I know?

The Giant · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by Matador] KOAJ --It was to make a point. As I said, it was measured to be about equally offensive to what FFLBB had written, and written in RESPONSE. Check the sequence.Point taken? Well, you guys were forced to box FFLBB, so I guess that&#x27;s worth something. What was the difference between comments he made in that thread and dozens of other comments he&#x27;s made that are equally offensive? Somebody responded and blew the thing up. Covers had to take notice.Does this signal a change? I wish it did, but I doubt it. Personally, I prefer a more lax policing policy all the way around, but what I really don&#x27;t like is the double standard. I can hold my own rhetorically with just about anyone, but to let people take racial pot shots while others can&#x27;t retaliate is just plain unfair and unamerican.&#xD;&#xA;&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Sadly, it&#x27;s becoming more American...

Titan65 · Answer

I guess I should have read this post first.

Fit4Life511 · Answer

Its funny that Matador claims he was responding to me when in fact I was responding to another racial slur in that thread.

Its amazing that everything is funny when it comes to race until someone throws it back at you then all of a sudden its not funny anymore.

Go back to any racial thread EVER posted on Covers and you will realize that some clown starts the thread, I stick up for what is right and I get called a racist.

For the last time, I have a white business partner, bang white women and could careless about the color of someones skin.

When you asshats finally realize that, then this board can go back to sports and not race.

Titan65 · Answer

I bang black women.

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