Thats what happens when you get asked nicely multiple times to stop with insults and attacks, the silly name slams you do etc. Even this title is just more of your childish insults, you cant seem to help yourself.
If you want to stay out of the box then listen this time and either quit interacting with members you have no self control with or do better in following what has been asked several times.
The true character of a member is how they break down when given the opportunity and you with several others show true colors versus others who do the opposite when boxed or challenged or asked to post with respect to all etc.
Your term is short, but what happens going forward is up to you.
Thats what happens when you get asked nicely multiple times to stop with insults and attacks, the silly name slams you do etc. Even this title is just more of your childish insults, you cant seem to help yourself.
If you want to stay out of the box then listen this time and either quit interacting with members you have no self control with or do better in following what has been asked several times.
The true character of a member is how they break down when given the opportunity and you with several others show true colors versus others who do the opposite when boxed or challenged or asked to post with respect to all etc.
Your term is short, but what happens going forward is up to you.
I'm of the opinion that kelly's boxing was to prove a point that the politico forum is not biased, even though it is fairly obvious that the moderation is, not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is in its current forum format...and I'm not entirely sure that kelly is not some bot or person that is only here to fluff the magic dragon...
I believe wall may think that getting rid of all the members that are not aligned with the left is the easiest fix for that forum and he may be right...he often times will address negatively those members whom he does not like, mainly the right, while letting the leftists slide by...he also lumps people or groups together and a moderator should not do this....the whole thing with kelly is a ruse....why has he been boxed for over a week....makes no sense, but it does if he is expendable to show fairness...
He has already been given a fix...make another forum for the right or independents or disband the political section....I even asked if the "Other" forum could be used since it is virtually a ghost town there and no response...separate and segregate the two parties and let each talk about what they want in their own section...the left can stay in the political section and all others can go to the "Other" forum and talk about whatever...this will work so long as there are rules to not crossover....that way you can start whatever thread you want contradicting the other party and say what you want without recourse...easy fix as opposed to thinking that you are going to get either group to change their current ways...
There has been some very questionable conduct and attacking by the man with the iron fist recently...he does not do with others as he preaches they do to others...it's easy to see it but he can't because you mention this to him and he states you are deflecting...he refuses to see the error of his ways even if you admit yours...this adds fuel to the fire when you are not man enough to realize that you may indeed be part of the problem instead of the solution...what he does to some members in that section is stalking and attacking and antagonistic....
As hugh said, let it go, which has proven it cannot be done
I'm of the opinion that kelly's boxing was to prove a point that the politico forum is not biased, even though it is fairly obvious that the moderation is, not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is in its current forum format...and I'm not entirely sure that kelly is not some bot or person that is only here to fluff the magic dragon...
I believe wall may think that getting rid of all the members that are not aligned with the left is the easiest fix for that forum and he may be right...he often times will address negatively those members whom he does not like, mainly the right, while letting the leftists slide by...he also lumps people or groups together and a moderator should not do this....the whole thing with kelly is a ruse....why has he been boxed for over a week....makes no sense, but it does if he is expendable to show fairness...
He has already been given a fix...make another forum for the right or independents or disband the political section....I even asked if the "Other" forum could be used since it is virtually a ghost town there and no response...separate and segregate the two parties and let each talk about what they want in their own section...the left can stay in the political section and all others can go to the "Other" forum and talk about whatever...this will work so long as there are rules to not crossover....that way you can start whatever thread you want contradicting the other party and say what you want without recourse...easy fix as opposed to thinking that you are going to get either group to change their current ways...
There has been some very questionable conduct and attacking by the man with the iron fist recently...he does not do with others as he preaches they do to others...it's easy to see it but he can't because you mention this to him and he states you are deflecting...he refuses to see the error of his ways even if you admit yours...this adds fuel to the fire when you are not man enough to realize that you may indeed be part of the problem instead of the solution...what he does to some members in that section is stalking and attacking and antagonistic....
As hugh said, let it go, which has proven it cannot be done
@benhogan76
Even if you are in the middle you are still on the shit list...yes, some are far left and some are far right, and there are going to be indifferences, but he has a sense of losing control and so he opposes and confronts the right way more than he does the left...and it just so happens he sides with the left...it's not a coincidence that this is done in this manner....some of us can see that but he and others cannot...he can blame it on whatever you want but once you favor your side then you no longer are neutral and are unable to fairly moderate...there is a reason that refereed and judges are not allowed to judge or officiate their own countries games and that is because you cannot portray a biased approach...it's life and human factors...it's ok, but just admit it and remove yourself....you can't be a leftists and moderate a forum filled with right and left...if a moderator supported the right then you would most likely see that the right was favored and the left was attacked and spoken to more frequently to knock it off....you have to be completely neutral to moderate anything fairly...I don't blame him for what he believes in, but I do for the fact that he cannot and will not realize that he is not as impartial as he thinks he is...you can see it in his posts just about how he talks about Trump...he is not fair or impartial at all and he holds grudges on an internet gambling website....the spreads hate towards the right (or as he would state; just Trump) just as his counterparts...good luck with that...
@benhogan76
Even if you are in the middle you are still on the shit list...yes, some are far left and some are far right, and there are going to be indifferences, but he has a sense of losing control and so he opposes and confronts the right way more than he does the left...and it just so happens he sides with the left...it's not a coincidence that this is done in this manner....some of us can see that but he and others cannot...he can blame it on whatever you want but once you favor your side then you no longer are neutral and are unable to fairly moderate...there is a reason that refereed and judges are not allowed to judge or officiate their own countries games and that is because you cannot portray a biased approach...it's life and human factors...it's ok, but just admit it and remove yourself....you can't be a leftists and moderate a forum filled with right and left...if a moderator supported the right then you would most likely see that the right was favored and the left was attacked and spoken to more frequently to knock it off....you have to be completely neutral to moderate anything fairly...I don't blame him for what he believes in, but I do for the fact that he cannot and will not realize that he is not as impartial as he thinks he is...you can see it in his posts just about how he talks about Trump...he is not fair or impartial at all and he holds grudges on an internet gambling website....the spreads hate towards the right (or as he would state; just Trump) just as his counterparts...good luck with that...
@ABooksNightmare
You wonder why I do not answer it is because I have answered and so many times it is obvious that you and several others really are not wanting to listen or follow requests rather just deflect and complain and as you said that has been going on a very long time and for sure that is a fact. Going back long ago the same problem existed, members want to attack others and do whatever they want without recourse and then recourse came so blame the mod or blame Canada or blame the person being attacked, that is spot on and you are right. What is missing is responsibility and ownership from the group who does all the complaining. The reason why your group complains and has complained long before politics is that responsibility is never ever owned, you never own responsibility and make efforts to do what has been asked and what is part of the rules/guidelines and the only way you get it is from getting boxed and for some being banned. You like to pass off insults and jabs and trolling as innocent and not of importance when it has been said straight out and multiple times that such tactics get you boxed/banned. That is why I rarely respond to the twisted username whining, you and others just want to whine and stomp your feet and claim partisan unfairness and never is there ownership for your trolling and bothering other members. So why should I or anyone have to rehash what you already know? Your replies in here and over the years are also why I dont reply, you trash me and have for years that is the sign of an immature childish tantrum and not someone who is interested in discord or making things better so why would I engage with that crap?
To your forum question, you have the answer already...you know the answer. The politics forum is the answer to your question, it is the only place on the site that we allow political discussion. The scheme you wrapped up in a bow is already in existence, the purpose for the forum is to discuss politics and that is it. If someone wants to discuss politics then go there and do so. That forum is not for flame torching other members, trolling, bothering, baiting, creating combative personal replies and threads. Anywhere on this site if you troll, bait, antagonize, bully and all the other descriptive terms then you are breaking the rules. Outside of the box NONE of those things are allowed anywhere else.
So the utopia you request already exists, that mean you have ownership and responsibility...not words you like or will follow and so here we are. People who get boxed regularly are those breaking the rules and what has been asked, those who lack ownership and responsibility and those who flame throw when they are caught doing so. It is also correlative that those who get boxed often are the largest complainers and trash talking members, those who feel inclined to make personal degrading crappy comments and spin usernames to slight others. That sums it up, if you want to post in the politics forum or any forum then keep the rules and do what has been asked, if you cant control yourself and follow instructions then quit posting in those forums or keep getting boxed until one day you get banned.
@ABooksNightmare
You wonder why I do not answer it is because I have answered and so many times it is obvious that you and several others really are not wanting to listen or follow requests rather just deflect and complain and as you said that has been going on a very long time and for sure that is a fact. Going back long ago the same problem existed, members want to attack others and do whatever they want without recourse and then recourse came so blame the mod or blame Canada or blame the person being attacked, that is spot on and you are right. What is missing is responsibility and ownership from the group who does all the complaining. The reason why your group complains and has complained long before politics is that responsibility is never ever owned, you never own responsibility and make efforts to do what has been asked and what is part of the rules/guidelines and the only way you get it is from getting boxed and for some being banned. You like to pass off insults and jabs and trolling as innocent and not of importance when it has been said straight out and multiple times that such tactics get you boxed/banned. That is why I rarely respond to the twisted username whining, you and others just want to whine and stomp your feet and claim partisan unfairness and never is there ownership for your trolling and bothering other members. So why should I or anyone have to rehash what you already know? Your replies in here and over the years are also why I dont reply, you trash me and have for years that is the sign of an immature childish tantrum and not someone who is interested in discord or making things better so why would I engage with that crap?
To your forum question, you have the answer already...you know the answer. The politics forum is the answer to your question, it is the only place on the site that we allow political discussion. The scheme you wrapped up in a bow is already in existence, the purpose for the forum is to discuss politics and that is it. If someone wants to discuss politics then go there and do so. That forum is not for flame torching other members, trolling, bothering, baiting, creating combative personal replies and threads. Anywhere on this site if you troll, bait, antagonize, bully and all the other descriptive terms then you are breaking the rules. Outside of the box NONE of those things are allowed anywhere else.
So the utopia you request already exists, that mean you have ownership and responsibility...not words you like or will follow and so here we are. People who get boxed regularly are those breaking the rules and what has been asked, those who lack ownership and responsibility and those who flame throw when they are caught doing so. It is also correlative that those who get boxed often are the largest complainers and trash talking members, those who feel inclined to make personal degrading crappy comments and spin usernames to slight others. That sums it up, if you want to post in the politics forum or any forum then keep the rules and do what has been asked, if you cant control yourself and follow instructions then quit posting in those forums or keep getting boxed until one day you get banned.
@wallstreetcappers
To you I say what you said to me...
You have a major history with partisan issues, we get many complaints about you stepping in and saying nonsense in the middle of a thread just to be annoying, we also as you know have knocked heads over your partisan attacks and stalking on other members to a point of a line being drawn and if it continued you would be banned.
Coming from you this call to church seems fake and contrived, if you feel that is an attack and unwarranted then prove me wrong. Start seriously interacting with everyone, be part of conversation with everyone, stay away from stalking and baiting and posting nonsense in threads you for sure are not interested in being part of. When you go tangent in a partisan thread and have ZERO history engaging with the discussion, what do you think that is doing exactly?
Is this the way a proper moderator moderates a site?
I asked you before and I will ask again, how is your moderation of the political forum going? I mean, it is 100% under your beat and control? Aren't you to blame for what it has become?
Even why others try to contribute you call them out because they do not align with your ideals and even when your side attacks they have nothing said to them but rather you seek, stalk and attack those on the right or push blame onto them while not seeing your side and its faults....been happening on this site for decades, but only from one moderator and not the others...wonder why that is...I don't see any of the others mods acting like you and involving themselves like you do or creating problems the way you do....you get into daily battles with users in the politics forum but only with those that you do not like and only those that differ from your views...that is a fact...say what you want but the truth is it is easy to see and that is what everyone complains about you...so I guess we are all wrong and you are right....must be a tough way to live always being right and never seeing yourself as contributing to the problem...
@wallstreetcappers
To you I say what you said to me...
You have a major history with partisan issues, we get many complaints about you stepping in and saying nonsense in the middle of a thread just to be annoying, we also as you know have knocked heads over your partisan attacks and stalking on other members to a point of a line being drawn and if it continued you would be banned.
Coming from you this call to church seems fake and contrived, if you feel that is an attack and unwarranted then prove me wrong. Start seriously interacting with everyone, be part of conversation with everyone, stay away from stalking and baiting and posting nonsense in threads you for sure are not interested in being part of. When you go tangent in a partisan thread and have ZERO history engaging with the discussion, what do you think that is doing exactly?
Is this the way a proper moderator moderates a site?
I asked you before and I will ask again, how is your moderation of the political forum going? I mean, it is 100% under your beat and control? Aren't you to blame for what it has become?
Even why others try to contribute you call them out because they do not align with your ideals and even when your side attacks they have nothing said to them but rather you seek, stalk and attack those on the right or push blame onto them while not seeing your side and its faults....been happening on this site for decades, but only from one moderator and not the others...wonder why that is...I don't see any of the others mods acting like you and involving themselves like you do or creating problems the way you do....you get into daily battles with users in the politics forum but only with those that you do not like and only those that differ from your views...that is a fact...say what you want but the truth is it is easy to see and that is what everyone complains about you...so I guess we are all wrong and you are right....must be a tough way to live always being right and never seeing yourself as contributing to the problem...
@ABooksNightmare
And the world turns...I explain and you retort as always.
The issue isnt right vs left it is only about accountability, respect, consideration and following the guidelines and instructions required for posting.
If you decide to follow the site guidelines and the directives repeatedly given then things will go swimmingly, if not then the bizarro world will keep spinning. Given the complete lack of ownership and responsibility you continue to exhibit I am sure this will be a never ending circle for you.
@ABooksNightmare
And the world turns...I explain and you retort as always.
The issue isnt right vs left it is only about accountability, respect, consideration and following the guidelines and instructions required for posting.
If you decide to follow the site guidelines and the directives repeatedly given then things will go swimmingly, if not then the bizarro world will keep spinning. Given the complete lack of ownership and responsibility you continue to exhibit I am sure this will be a never ending circle for you.
Released from timeout and lot's of replies to get back to..... too bad I'm headed out of town for a little R & R and no time for it all before the weekend.... have no fear, I will make sure I get back to everyone late next week sometime so no one feels left out....
But for now, I can't leave my homeboy hanging.... I will address you in the upmost, adult, upper Englishman nobleness way possible.
"Dear Sir Mr. Wallstreecappers" (with British Royalty accent)
I was disappointed in your response to my query on my timeout. NOT the Jarrett type of disappointment, that type is inevitable in all timelines of the universe. Mine was a legitimate, feelings hurt kind. You see, I heed your advice on not name calling, insulting and attacking. I am still not quite sure why the discipline was necessary, I did not call anyone "names" or "insults". I was busy spreading the good gospel of the world that day, ya know, that little thing people ignorantly & conveniently forget these days.... something called "truth". That I remember and know I am not mistaken on. If I did any "name calling" I'm sure it was not a direct meanie name like so common in most Boxed usernames. Perhaps sharing this info with me will help me forgo any potential future transgressions.
Released from timeout and lot's of replies to get back to..... too bad I'm headed out of town for a little R & R and no time for it all before the weekend.... have no fear, I will make sure I get back to everyone late next week sometime so no one feels left out....
But for now, I can't leave my homeboy hanging.... I will address you in the upmost, adult, upper Englishman nobleness way possible.
"Dear Sir Mr. Wallstreecappers" (with British Royalty accent)
I was disappointed in your response to my query on my timeout. NOT the Jarrett type of disappointment, that type is inevitable in all timelines of the universe. Mine was a legitimate, feelings hurt kind. You see, I heed your advice on not name calling, insulting and attacking. I am still not quite sure why the discipline was necessary, I did not call anyone "names" or "insults". I was busy spreading the good gospel of the world that day, ya know, that little thing people ignorantly & conveniently forget these days.... something called "truth". That I remember and know I am not mistaken on. If I did any "name calling" I'm sure it was not a direct meanie name like so common in most Boxed usernames. Perhaps sharing this info with me will help me forgo any potential future transgressions.
@wallstreetcappers
With regards to some of your specifics above:
“Thats what happens when you get asked nicely multiple times to stop with insults and attacks, the silly name slams you do etc. Even this title is just more of your childish insults, you cant seem to help yourself.”
You take things way too seriously. This is a SPORTS GAMBLING public forum website. This site exists for ONE purpose only….. ENTERTAINMENT. That is it. “childish insults”. WHAT !? “silly name slams”. My thread title, as is a majority of my content, stems from sarcasm. Is this “childish” ?? I get sarcasm can be lost on the interweb words written on a screen but if, after ALL these years together, you guiding me through the cesspool sub forum, I would’ve thought you would get my humor. I think that is my mistake I’ve been making….you having a sense of humor. Again, if you do not want to be referred to as “wally” (multiple people have done this before without any “childish” name calling from the mod so why single me out). Then all you have to do is say you don’t prefer to be called that. You have never told me NOT to call you Wally. I have never seen anyone else who called you Wally get reprimanded so again, my apologies….OK, no problem, no harm no foul. “WSC” I assume is acceptable BUT I don’t want to make any assumptions…. You know what they say about “assuming” right. Please confirm I may address you by WSC. Again, what alleged “name slams” am I not permitted to say? I have no issue with other usernames using “KC” or “blitz”. Midnight has no issue with me calling him “darkness”. BigGame “BG”. Spockgato “el gato”. Jerson “Jman”. BenHogan “Mr. Ben” or “Mr. Hogan”. “Dubz” “UNI” None of these examples have ever rose issue with my friendly locker room nicknames. If you don’t have a nickname in the world of competitive sports then you are probably not liked much (or are a NPC in this realm of covers) I am a friendly guy and like to give my friends and others in the forum nick names. They are not vulgar, they are not “childish” (if I may have missed an example you think is childish please correct me).
The true character of a member is how they break down when given the opportunity and you with several others show true colors versus others who do the opposite when boxed or challenged or asked to post with respect to all etc.
“character of a member” LMFAO. Did you just type these words out onto the screen of Covers.com !?!?
Seriously…. I’m laughing my ass off with “the true character of a member”. This is an IMAGINARY internet forum. YOU, ME, everyone else….we are merely WORDS on a screen. This entire website means NOTHING in the real world. NOTHING. We are like WWE characters masquerading in an imaginary interweb world. You think the majority of these screen personas are like this in real life ??? LMAO I’d say 1-2% of them maybe. The rest are just here for fun and entertainment, a getaway from the work world or homelife no matter how short of a time…an entertainment outlet for most is all. YOU, me, NO ONE here should be taking themselves too seriously…. Anyone solving world hunger? Curing cancer ? Saving America from the Federal Reserve? Nope, I thought not…..
@wallstreetcappers
With regards to some of your specifics above:
“Thats what happens when you get asked nicely multiple times to stop with insults and attacks, the silly name slams you do etc. Even this title is just more of your childish insults, you cant seem to help yourself.”
You take things way too seriously. This is a SPORTS GAMBLING public forum website. This site exists for ONE purpose only….. ENTERTAINMENT. That is it. “childish insults”. WHAT !? “silly name slams”. My thread title, as is a majority of my content, stems from sarcasm. Is this “childish” ?? I get sarcasm can be lost on the interweb words written on a screen but if, after ALL these years together, you guiding me through the cesspool sub forum, I would’ve thought you would get my humor. I think that is my mistake I’ve been making….you having a sense of humor. Again, if you do not want to be referred to as “wally” (multiple people have done this before without any “childish” name calling from the mod so why single me out). Then all you have to do is say you don’t prefer to be called that. You have never told me NOT to call you Wally. I have never seen anyone else who called you Wally get reprimanded so again, my apologies….OK, no problem, no harm no foul. “WSC” I assume is acceptable BUT I don’t want to make any assumptions…. You know what they say about “assuming” right. Please confirm I may address you by WSC. Again, what alleged “name slams” am I not permitted to say? I have no issue with other usernames using “KC” or “blitz”. Midnight has no issue with me calling him “darkness”. BigGame “BG”. Spockgato “el gato”. Jerson “Jman”. BenHogan “Mr. Ben” or “Mr. Hogan”. “Dubz” “UNI” None of these examples have ever rose issue with my friendly locker room nicknames. If you don’t have a nickname in the world of competitive sports then you are probably not liked much (or are a NPC in this realm of covers) I am a friendly guy and like to give my friends and others in the forum nick names. They are not vulgar, they are not “childish” (if I may have missed an example you think is childish please correct me).
The true character of a member is how they break down when given the opportunity and you with several others show true colors versus others who do the opposite when boxed or challenged or asked to post with respect to all etc.
“character of a member” LMFAO. Did you just type these words out onto the screen of Covers.com !?!?
Seriously…. I’m laughing my ass off with “the true character of a member”. This is an IMAGINARY internet forum. YOU, ME, everyone else….we are merely WORDS on a screen. This entire website means NOTHING in the real world. NOTHING. We are like WWE characters masquerading in an imaginary interweb world. You think the majority of these screen personas are like this in real life ??? LMAO I’d say 1-2% of them maybe. The rest are just here for fun and entertainment, a getaway from the work world or homelife no matter how short of a time…an entertainment outlet for most is all. YOU, me, NO ONE here should be taking themselves too seriously…. Anyone solving world hunger? Curing cancer ? Saving America from the Federal Reserve? Nope, I thought not…..
He does take this site way to seriously....it's a shame, because after all it is a gambling internet site....if this were an only political site then yea, I get it, but it is not...even when one tries to lighten the mood no one cares and now is frowned upon...kind of ridiculous that people can't lighten up...that's how tightly they are wound up...hate to see them in their personal life if that can't take a joke or sarcasm on an internet message board...
You're on his spreadsheet and there is no getting off it...
He does take this site way to seriously....it's a shame, because after all it is a gambling internet site....if this were an only political site then yea, I get it, but it is not...even when one tries to lighten the mood no one cares and now is frowned upon...kind of ridiculous that people can't lighten up...that's how tightly they are wound up...hate to see them in their personal life if that can't take a joke or sarcasm on an internet message board...
You're on his spreadsheet and there is no getting off it...
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