....................................for the number of Black US Olympians abducted by terrorists at Paris '24 now that they know to what lengths the Democrats will go to secure their release?The Olympic Committee may have to erect another scoreboard,crediting each terrorist nation with its proper count,not wishing the veracity of it to be confused with a USA election.Maybe ABC will exhume Frank Reynolds and Ted Koppel to hold another America Held Hostage show.
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....................................for the number of Black US Olympians abducted by terrorists at Paris '24 now that they know to what lengths the Democrats will go to secure their release?The Olympic Committee may have to erect another scoreboard,crediting each terrorist nation with its proper count,not wishing the veracity of it to be confused with a USA election.Maybe ABC will exhume Frank Reynolds and Ted Koppel to hold another America Held Hostage show.
What's the over/under on how fast this dumb ass thread gets boxed? And why is everything about race with people like you? If it was Diana Taurasi over there, or fucking Elena Della Donne, the same shit would've happened.
"Love, love will tear us apart again."
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What's the over/under on how fast this dumb ass thread gets boxed? And why is everything about race with people like you? If it was Diana Taurasi over there, or fucking Elena Della Donne, the same shit would've happened.
I have to say the Biden Admin fell into a Russian trap. If we go back to the "Russian Election Interfence" report from the Senate we find the Russians targeted Black Americans with hate the police, everybody against you, don't even bother voting, etc. They used our diversity against us.
And here we have the same thing. They offered the gay black gal or the military serving white guy, notboth.
Your choice Joe. Who would scream the loudest if their favorite left behind??
The Russians are laughing their asses off.
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I have to say the Biden Admin fell into a Russian trap. If we go back to the "Russian Election Interfence" report from the Senate we find the Russians targeted Black Americans with hate the police, everybody against you, don't even bother voting, etc. They used our diversity against us.
And here we have the same thing. They offered the gay black gal or the military serving white guy, notboth.
Your choice Joe. Who would scream the loudest if their favorite left behind??
this is f'kin lol funny when ypou had the former president on national tv standing shoulder to shoulder with Putin and agreeing with him when virtually every intell. agencies and apparatus of the US. said the opposite. smh
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
Putin owns joe..China owns america...
this is f'kin lol funny when ypou had the former president on national tv standing shoulder to shoulder with Putin and agreeing with him when virtually every intell. agencies and apparatus of the US. said the opposite. smh
A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong.
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A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong.
A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong.
This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth.
"Love, love will tear us apart again."
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong.
This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth.
Must have been all the work on fixing inflation, guns being smuggled over boarder that stopped anyone from knowing his name in last….. well since she got out.
No way? Way
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Must have been all the work on fixing inflation, guns being smuggled over boarder that stopped anyone from knowing his name in last….. well since she got out.
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong. This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth.
SHOW US ALL WHERE YOU GOT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION.
I can find nothing about smuggling or weed.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong. This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth.
SHOW US ALL WHERE YOU GOT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong. This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth. SHOW US ALL WHERE YOU GOT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION. I can find nothing about smuggling or weed.
i respect Stu so I’m sure he does have this info but I 100% wanna hear it too cause everyone just says what they want on here
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: A lot harder to swap someone in prison for Espionage vs weed. The fact of the matter is Bout is significant in name only now. His 'profession' changed a lot in 15 years, he's a relic in that game now. Don't get me wrong, I think Griner fucked up and should not get off freely. If you're thinking the US got duped on the deal, you're also wrong. This is a point of which many are misinformed. While Whalen's case involved weed as well, he is accused of being a spy, and a smuggler. Brittany Grinder has a half smoked vape cartridge. This point isn't in defense of her, because frankly I couldn't give two shits about Brittany Griner, but it's just the facts. Too anyone who doesn't smoke vape pens, I can't stress enough how easily they are lost in the shuffle. These aren't like the big cumbersome units you see tobacco vapers puffing on. These things are literally the size of a pen. Cartridges typically come in gram and half gram sizes and are vials the size of a pen cap. Again, this is not in defense of her. Sometimes you have to pay the price for stupidity. I promise you though, nobody intentionally takes that kind of chance for such a small amount of contraband. It'd be like, "He was caught going through the airport with cocaine. Really? How much? A key bumps worth." It'd be like the equivalent of a couple joints of flower. I'm smuggling weed into a foreign country. A whole two joints worth. SHOW US ALL WHERE YOU GOT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION. I can find nothing about smuggling or weed.
i respect Stu so I’m sure he does have this info but I 100% wanna hear it too cause everyone just says what they want on here
It's been out there for years. Long before Brittany Griner. Dude has chronic pain or some shit like that. Tried to bring an ounce back or something. Maybe it was too. They got him on that but also accused him of being a spy, which is common in these such places. Some do-gooder thinks he's gonna teach abroad? Must be a spy. They grab contractors often too with telecommunications contractors being targeted most often for obvious reasons.
"Love, love will tear us apart again."
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@UNIMAN
It's been out there for years. Long before Brittany Griner. Dude has chronic pain or some shit like that. Tried to bring an ounce back or something. Maybe it was too. They got him on that but also accused him of being a spy, which is common in these such places. Some do-gooder thinks he's gonna teach abroad? Must be a spy. They grab contractors often too with telecommunications contractors being targeted most often for obvious reasons.
@UNIMAN It's been out there for years. Long before Brittany Griner. Dude has chronic pain or some shit like that. Tried to bring an ounce back or something. Maybe it was too. They got him on that but also accused him of being a spy, which is common in these such places. Some do-gooder thinks he's gonna teach abroad? Must be a spy. They grab contractors often too with telecommunications contractors being targeted most often for obvious reasons.
FALSE INFORMATION
MARC FOGEL, HISTORY SCHOOL TEACHER FROM PITTSBURGH WAS ARRESTED IN 2021 AND IS IN PRISON IN RUSSIA FOR MARIJUANA.
PAUL WHELAN HAD NO WEED.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@UNIMAN It's been out there for years. Long before Brittany Griner. Dude has chronic pain or some shit like that. Tried to bring an ounce back or something. Maybe it was too. They got him on that but also accused him of being a spy, which is common in these such places. Some do-gooder thinks he's gonna teach abroad? Must be a spy. They grab contractors often too with telecommunications contractors being targeted most often for obvious reasons.
FALSE INFORMATION
MARC FOGEL, HISTORY SCHOOL TEACHER FROM PITTSBURGH WAS ARRESTED IN 2021 AND IS IN PRISON IN RUSSIA FOR MARIJUANA.
Trump could have traded Whalen for Bout, why didn't he?
I think that jerk John Bolton summed it up and I have to agree; "The possibility of a Bout-for-Whelan trade existed back then,” said Bolton, 74, “and it wasn’t made, for very good reasons having to deal with Viktor Bout.”
Obviously, there’s a lot of very understandable human emotion here in getting Griner released, but this is a very bad mistake by the Biden administration,” Bolton told CBS of the decision to swap Bout
This is not a deal. This is not a swap. This is a surrender,” Bolton added. “And terrorists and rogue states all around the world will take note of this, and it endangers other Americans in the future who can be grabbed and used as bargaining chips by people who don’t have the same morals and scruples that we do.
“There are occasions when you swap spies. Obviously, there are legitimate exchanges of prisoners of war,” he continued. “But this doesn’t even approximate that. The idea that somehow what Brittney Griner did — very foolishly, in my estimate — but that whatever she did compares to Viktor Bout is something that shows just how desperate the administration was to make this deal. And I’m just very worried about the effect it has and the danger that it can put many other Americans in, all around the world.”
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
Trump could have traded Whalen for Bout, why didn't he?
I think that jerk John Bolton summed it up and I have to agree; "The possibility of a Bout-for-Whelan trade existed back then,” said Bolton, 74, “and it wasn’t made, for very good reasons having to deal with Viktor Bout.”
Obviously, there’s a lot of very understandable human emotion here in getting Griner released, but this is a very bad mistake by the Biden administration,” Bolton told CBS of the decision to swap Bout
This is not a deal. This is not a swap. This is a surrender,” Bolton added. “And terrorists and rogue states all around the world will take note of this, and it endangers other Americans in the future who can be grabbed and used as bargaining chips by people who don’t have the same morals and scruples that we do.
“There are occasions when you swap spies. Obviously, there are legitimate exchanges of prisoners of war,” he continued. “But this doesn’t even approximate that. The idea that somehow what Brittney Griner did — very foolishly, in my estimate — but that whatever she did compares to Viktor Bout is something that shows just how desperate the administration was to make this deal. And I’m just very worried about the effect it has and the danger that it can put many other Americans in, all around the world.”
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