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They got 201 entrants.   Who ever wins this event will be considered the Champion,  it definitely makes the main event less meaningful. 
 
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the main event is already a joke
 
biggest crapshoot in all of poker...no skill at all
 
 
I (and many others) consider the $50,000 HORSE the new "World Championship" of Poker.
 
 
 
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There is some skill in the Main Event, but luck is more of a factor.  I would have no chance of winning the 50K Horse, but I can win the Main Event. 
 
I wouldn't consider the Main Event a joke though.  True, it's a partial crapshoot, but good solid poker will get you to the money.
 
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A) I would have no chance of winning the 50K Horse, but I can win the Main Event. 
 
and of course i mean this as no offense to you at all but this is my point...ANYONE can win the main event....even people with limited skills can win....now i dont think someone playing poker for the first time can win, but any random donkey can win this tournament....i think in alot of cases what you see is very bad players getting good in an hurry when they make it past day 3. It is commenly known alot of amauters get pro help (and pay for it trust me) once they get into the money
 
B) True, it's a partial crapshoot, but good solid poker will get you to the money.
 
Nonsense. I have played the main event 4 times. Twice before the "Poker Boom" and twice since. Before 2004 this would be considered true. But no way close to be true now. So many landmines to overcome to make it into the money in the main event it's insane. Take a look at the CardPlayer Player of the Year points leaders heading into the Main Event every year and see how they have faired in the first two days. Very poorly. And these are the best players playing the best tournament poker in the world at the time.
 
Now skill does come into play after you get past day 4. Big Time. But getting to day 5 is nothing more than pure luck that the greatest skill in the world connot overcome.
 
Why do you think we have not seen a pro filled final table for the past 5 years? Or no pro to win at least once these past 5 years (in fact no pro has won for 7 years)?
 
It's just to damn hard to overcome a field filled with moronic donks who just wanna gamble it up and play any decent player with over aggression. Sure you can overcome it for a strech of time, but not for 3 or 4 days in a row until these players are either A) weeded out B) realise they have a chance to win and tighten up and play better (see my point above about amatuers getting pro help).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Weathered:

the main event is already a joke
 
biggest crapshoot in all of poker...no skill at all
 
 
I (and many others) consider the $50,000 HORSE the new "World Championship" of Poker.
 
 

Strongly disagree with that statement.  If you ask the top 50 pro's what bracelet they want then sure it's the Horse event but everybody else wants to win the NL hold em main event.   And I'd say the reason it isn't a pro filled final table has more to do with pro's being out numbered by 10 to 1 then a luck factor.

And yes you have to win a lot of coin flips.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

Strongly disagree with that statement.  If you ask the top 50 pro's what bracelet they want then sure it's the Horse event but everybody else wants to win the NL hold em main event.  

Of course every pro wants to win the big one....every single Poker player in the world wants to win the big one.

Maybe my statement came across wrong. I am saying that the Main Event is the hardest tournament in the world to win, that it requires the most amount of luck of any tournament in the world to win.

Any pro tournament player will say the less luck in a tournament the better. So with that being said, it can hardly be called the World Championship of Poker like it used to be. It's just flat out not anymore. This is not an opinion. It's a fact. Yes it's the biggest tournament in the world. But it's far from the prestigious status in the professional/old school world that it used to be.

 

And I'd say the reason it isn't a pro filled final table has more to do with pro's being out numbered by 10 to 1 then a luck factor.

This proves my point. It's a minefield. Way to many donkeys to overcome. If you put the 50 best golfers in a field of 20,000 players all 50 would finish in the money and 45 of them would finish in the top 50. In TOURNAMENT POKER the short term inabilities of your opponent can boost your variance sky high and cause you to go broke. Just something you cant avoid (for the most part) for hours and hours and days and days of Poker.

Now this scenario is optimal for cash games because you can overcome short term influxes in variance, and in fact you want as many donks in a cash game as humanly possible. But thats because you can always re-load and go on to exploit their deficiencys. In tournaments this is not the case. You go broke, your done.

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