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    Online group says poker winnings are frozen

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    UncleFuckingSam
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2009 - 10:50 PM ET #1

    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

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    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

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    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

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    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFuckingSam:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

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    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

    stupid post.....especially the ending

    What happened to the land of the FREE??

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFuckingSam:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

    *****

    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

    stupid post.....especially the ending

    What happened to the land of the FREE??

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 10:13 AM ET #3

    You're right this is America and I will do whatever the fuck I want with my god damn money.  Stay the fuck out of my business.
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    You're right this is America and I will do whatever the fuck I want with my god damn money.  Stay the fuck out of my business.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 10:23 AM ET #4

    When will Americans wake up and fucking realize we are NOT FUCKING FREE?  WAKE UP PEOPLE! 

    TIME TO START FIGHTING FOR OUR FUCKING RIGHTS!
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    When will Americans wake up and fucking realize we are NOT FUCKING FREE?  WAKE UP PEOPLE! 

    TIME TO START FIGHTING FOR OUR FUCKING RIGHTS!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 12:37 PM ET #5

    we have more freedom up here and if it is  govt run it is tax free
    fuck these special interest groups people work hard for there $$$ if you want togamble it is their choice
    and yet they bitch about other countries oppressing their people
    time for you guys to make a stand stop this bullshit
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    we have more freedom up here and if it is  govt run it is tax free
    fuck these special interest groups people work hard for there $$$ if you want togamble it is their choice
    and yet they bitch about other countries oppressing their people
    time for you guys to make a stand stop this bullshit
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 12:41 PM ET #6

    guess they want people to deal with organized crime bookies
     
     
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    guess they want people to deal with organized crime bookies
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 2:23 PM ET #7

    these fuckin specialinterest groups they tried to bully me for uploading files on bitt torrent fuck off you cannot do shit to me still uploading
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    these fuckin specialinterest groups they tried to bully me for uploading files on bitt torrent fuck off you cannot do shit to me still uploading
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 2:37 PM ET #8

    what does that mean? Does it mean the government is just going
    to keep all that money? Are the off shore bookmakers next? it
    seems like the government is taking every one's rights away
    by the day.  Land of the free.
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    what does that mean? Does it mean the government is just going
    to keep all that money? Are the off shore bookmakers next? it
    seems like the government is taking every one's rights away
    by the day.  Land of the free.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2009 - 4:39 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFuckingSam:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

    *****

    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

     

    i think you have our country confused with another country... this country was not built on the principle of OBEY!

     

    way to win the "Biggest box in the history of Covers" award!

     

    now get the fuck out of MY country, you box!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFuckingSam:

    WASHINGTON (AP) -An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Justice Department long has maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.

    In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture ''because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses.'' The letter was signed by Arlo Devlin-Brown, assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    In another letter faxed the same day, Devlin-Brown asks that the bank treat the funds ''as legally seized'' by the FBI, saying that the government has probable cause that the gambling payments of U.S. residents had been directed to offshore illegal Internet gambling businesses.

    ''The FBI has authority to seize proceeds of specified unlawful activity without a warrant under exigent circumstances,'' wrote Devlin-Brown - a process criticized by the Poker Players Alliance.

    *****

    Why can't all of you people just learn to do what you are told and stop gambling? We told you on-line gamblers to quit, but you didn't. You resisted like disobedient little children. Now after we take all of your precious money from you, maybe you will learn to OBEY! The word is out. Stop gambling right now or every last dime will be taken from you. This is America! Learn to Obey!

     

    i think you have our country confused with another country... this country was not built on the principle of OBEY!

     

    way to win the "Biggest box in the history of Covers" award!

     

    now get the fuck out of MY country, you box!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

     

    i think you have our country confused with another country... this country was not built on the principle of OBEY!

     

    way to win the "Biggest box in the history of Covers" award!

     

    now get the fuck out of MY country, you box!

     

     

    I THINK, and am not sure but I think UFS was being sarcastic when he said obey and all that nonsense. He was just showing how ridiculous our govt is behaving. That said I see he was banned awful quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

     

    i think you have our country confused with another country... this country was not built on the principle of OBEY!

     

    way to win the "Biggest box in the history of Covers" award!

     

    now get the fuck out of MY country, you box!

     

     

    I THINK, and am not sure but I think UFS was being sarcastic when he said obey and all that nonsense. He was just showing how ridiculous our govt is behaving. That said I see he was banned awful quick.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2009 - 12:17 PM ET #11

    30 million for more corporation bailouts  you guys are bein treated like a police state thought communism was dead it still alive and now your government is practising it invading your privacy while should worry about more important things than people wagering on a game or playin poker  complete b.s
    i feel real bad for these guys who got there accounts frozen
    just legalize online wagering and poker and tax the winnings than supporting the local bookmakers and organized crime families
     
     
     
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    30 million for more corporation bailouts  you guys are bein treated like a police state thought communism was dead it still alive and now your government is practising it invading your privacy while should worry about more important things than people wagering on a game or playin poker  complete b.s
    i feel real bad for these guys who got there accounts frozen
    just legalize online wagering and poker and tax the winnings than supporting the local bookmakers and organized crime families
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #12

    if the gov gonna tell us what to do with our hard urn money everyone should stop working and let the gov that care of us im bout had it thru most of my hard urn money away to gov im bout ready to quit working and let the gov take care of me if they tell me what to do the working people thru the towl in and let the basters take care of us
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    if the gov gonna tell us what to do with our hard urn money everyone should stop working and let the gov that care of us im bout had it thru most of my hard urn money away to gov im bout ready to quit working and let the gov take care of me if they tell me what to do the working people thru the towl in and let the basters take care of us
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy1966:

    if the gov gonna tell us what to do with our hard urn money everyone should stop working and let the gov that care of us im bout had it thru most of my hard urn money away to gov im bout ready to quit working and let the gov take care of me if they tell me what to do the working people thru the towl in and let the basters take care of us

     

     

    I understand your frustration. All the shit the govt has to worry about and they are hassling and complicating what would be a HUGE revenue stream.  So sickening.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy1966:

    if the gov gonna tell us what to do with our hard urn money everyone should stop working and let the gov that care of us im bout had it thru most of my hard urn money away to gov im bout ready to quit working and let the gov take care of me if they tell me what to do the working people thru the towl in and let the basters take care of us

     

     

    I understand your frustration. All the shit the govt has to worry about and they are hassling and complicating what would be a HUGE revenue stream.  So sickening.

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLNightmares:

     

     

    I THINK, and am not sure but I think UFS was being sarcastic when he said obey and all that nonsense. He was just showing how ridiculous our govt is behaving. That said I see he was banned awful quick.

    thought the same thing when i first read it... but i looked into it and saw his other posts... he was on a serious rant about it... preachy and ignorant... a bad combo!

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    I THINK, and am not sure but I think UFS was being sarcastic when he said obey and all that nonsense. He was just showing how ridiculous our govt is behaving. That said I see he was banned awful quick.

    thought the same thing when i first read it... but i looked into it and saw his other posts... he was on a serious rant about it... preachy and ignorant... a bad combo!

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