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    Question About All In Moments At Cash Games.

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    DaveMontana
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2008 - 6:02 PM ET #1

    OK so playing a 2/5 no limit game. I am small blind and pick up KK. guy makes it 40 to go, woman calls, and another guy calls. My action I push the 350 chip I have into the pot. Guy who made 40 dollar raise calls, other 2 fold. So now its the 2 of us I throw my cards up. He flips 1 card up and ace. I say ok whats the other one, you got pocker aces? He give me a nasty look and says something to really piss me off. So I go off saying if you flip 1 card over you need to flip them both over. Situation got really ugly and I was throw out of the poker room. Was I wrong? Once we are both all in and their is no more betting if he flips 1 card don't I have the right to see the other card? I guess I was the jackass and thats why tossed but I hate people like him. Smerky little gangbanger that I would love to follow into a bathroom lock the stall and proceed to pummle the shit out of him and teach him a little bit about respect.
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    OK so playing a 2/5 no limit game. I am small blind and pick up KK. guy makes it 40 to go, woman calls, and another guy calls. My action I push the 350 chip I have into the pot. Guy who made 40 dollar raise calls, other 2 fold. So now its the 2 of us I throw my cards up. He flips 1 card up and ace. I say ok whats the other one, you got pocker aces? He give me a nasty look and says something to really piss me off. So I go off saying if you flip 1 card over you need to flip them both over. Situation got really ugly and I was throw out of the poker room. Was I wrong? Once we are both all in and their is no more betting if he flips 1 card don't I have the right to see the other card? I guess I was the jackass and thats why tossed but I hate people like him. Smerky little gangbanger that I would love to follow into a bathroom lock the stall and proceed to pummle the shit out of him and teach him a little bit about respect.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2008 - 8:35 PM ET #2

    Though I am a little scared of you now i will say: He has the right to not even flip them over in a cash game until the showdown and then he can force you to show them first (you bet he called). If he did hit his ace he would need to show both to win. He ws just fucking wih you and i guess it worked.
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    Though I am a little scared of you now i will say: He has the right to not even flip them over in a cash game until the showdown and then he can force you to show them first (you bet he called). If he did hit his ace he would need to show both to win. He ws just fucking wih you and i guess it worked.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 5:14 AM ET #3

    in a cash game he doesn't have to flip up both of his cards until the end. He was just being a prick as common courtesy says he should've either told you what he had or just not flipped anything up. What did he have anyway???
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    in a cash game he doesn't have to flip up both of his cards until the end. He was just being a prick as common courtesy says he should've either told you what he had or just not flipped anything up. What did he have anyway???
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 11:28 AM ET #4

    I'm guessing he showed you the ace because that's what he needed to win. 

    Why in the world are you throwing a bet of $350 in when he made it $40 to go anyway??????? 
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    I'm guessing he showed you the ace because that's what he needed to win. 

    Why in the world are you throwing a bet of $350 in when he made it $40 to go anyway??????? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 3:44 PM ET #5

    it may depend on the room's rules, but this is not a tourney where they will want the cards flipped up, in a cash game some guys will turn up their cards, some won't for various reasons.
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    it may depend on the room's rules, but this is not a tourney where they will want the cards flipped up, in a cash game some guys will turn up their cards, some won't for various reasons.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2008 - 6:17 PM ET #6

    no , he can wait until the end to flip them over.
     
    i always turn mine over, i hate when the f'n people dont flip them over and then at the end when they suck out or beat you then they flip em over.
     
    i dont care though and it isnt a big enough deal to get yourself kicked out of the room for
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    no , he can wait until the end to flip them over.
     
    i always turn mine over, i hate when the f'n people dont flip them over and then at the end when they suck out or beat you then they flip em over.
     
    i dont care though and it isnt a big enough deal to get yourself kicked out of the room for
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 2:24 AM ET #7

    In most poker rooms (Bellagio, Commerce), in cash games they don't have to flip up their cards when they are all-in, only until after the river if they want to win the pot and they are last and no one mucked a no show, they have to show them. If they show one card, and it is a cash game and it is heads-up action, they are not forced to show them both and they can comment about the hand, any outsiders aren't suppose to be involved in conversation as it could lead to collusion and confusion. After the showdown, two hole cards must be shown to win. The reasoning for the rules is say their is a faulty deck with two Aces of Spades and you get dealt them, and you don't notice or prefer not to mention that the deck is corrupted, and you win a huge pot showing just one card (for one example if four spades were out and no straight flush, you would have the nuts). The first time I've seen it happen about was about 7 years ago in a limit hold'em cash game.
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    In most poker rooms (Bellagio, Commerce), in cash games they don't have to flip up their cards when they are all-in, only until after the river if they want to win the pot and they are last and no one mucked a no show, they have to show them. If they show one card, and it is a cash game and it is heads-up action, they are not forced to show them both and they can comment about the hand, any outsiders aren't suppose to be involved in conversation as it could lead to collusion and confusion. After the showdown, two hole cards must be shown to win. The reasoning for the rules is say their is a faulty deck with two Aces of Spades and you get dealt them, and you don't notice or prefer not to mention that the deck is corrupted, and you win a huge pot showing just one card (for one example if four spades were out and no straight flush, you would have the nuts). The first time I've seen it happen about was about 7 years ago in a limit hold'em cash game.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #8

    So did you win the hand?  Or did you not get to stay and see?
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    So did you win the hand?  Or did you not get to stay and see?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2008 - 9:27 PM ET #9

    did he have aces, or did you get kicked out and not see hand
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    did he have aces, or did you get kicked out and not see hand
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2008 - 1:22 AM ET #10

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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2008 - 12:11 PM ET #11

    Wether he was being a jerk or not poker is also about taming your emotions. You should have let your cards speak for themselves.
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    Wether he was being a jerk or not poker is also about taming your emotions. You should have let your cards speak for themselves.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2008 - 10:39 PM ET #12

    Yeah, you must have been really out of line to get kicked out like that. What happened at the end? 
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    Yeah, you must have been really out of line to get kicked out like that. What happened at the end? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2008 - 1:52 AM ET #13

    he is doing the same thing as the other guy who didnt wanna show hes card he is not telling us the results
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    he is doing the same thing as the other guy who didnt wanna show hes card he is not telling us the results
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2008 - 11:58 PM ET #14

    You were wrong.  You don't have to show in cash games, only at the end to win the pot.
     
     
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    You were wrong.  You don't have to show in cash games, only at the end to win the pot.
     
     
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