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    DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier

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    zelo123
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2017 - 9:39 PM ET #1

    The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

    Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

    After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

    The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

    Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

    The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

    Trump tweeted as recently as Saturday that the Justice Department and FBI should “immediately release who paid for it.”

    Elias and Fusion GPS declined to comment on the arrangement. Spokesmen for the Clinton campaign and the DNC had no immediate comment.

    Some of the details are included in a Tuesday letter sent by Perkins Coie to a lawyer representing Fusion GPS, telling the research firm that it was released from a ­client-confidentiality obligation. The letter was prompted by a legal fight over a subpoena for Fusion GPS’s bank records.

    People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.903f231d5664#comments

    lalarry
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    Hmmm...  
    Dnc and Clinton seek dirt via fusion. Fusion is in contact with British Intelligence doing work in Russia. British Intelligence provides info regarding russian dossier to Fusion. The FBI gets involved and pays Fusion to continue. Does that mean Comey and Obama knew what was going on ? 
    Then there is the MINOR issue of selling 20 % of nuclear fuel to Russian.. 
    And the MINOR issue of the monies paid to Clinton by Russia for a speaking fee which ended up in the Clinton Foundation..  
     
    Are there dots to be connected here ?????

    That takes a whole lot of what's up?  
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

    Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

    After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

    The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

    Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

    The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

    Trump tweeted as recently as Saturday that the Justice Department and FBI should “immediately release who paid for it.”

    Elias and Fusion GPS declined to comment on the arrangement. Spokesmen for the Clinton campaign and the DNC had no immediate comment.

    Some of the details are included in a Tuesday letter sent by Perkins Coie to a lawyer representing Fusion GPS, telling the research firm that it was released from a ­client-confidentiality obligation. The letter was prompted by a legal fight over a subpoena for Fusion GPS’s bank records.

    People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.903f231d5664#comments

    lalarry
    9:26 PM EST
    Hmmm...  
    Dnc and Clinton seek dirt via fusion. Fusion is in contact with British Intelligence doing work in Russia. British Intelligence provides info regarding russian dossier to Fusion. The FBI gets involved and pays Fusion to continue. Does that mean Comey and Obama knew what was going on ? 
    Then there is the MINOR issue of selling 20 % of nuclear fuel to Russian.. 
    And the MINOR issue of the monies paid to Clinton by Russia for a speaking fee which ended up in the Clinton Foundation..  
     
    Are there dots to be connected here ?????

    That takes a whole lot of what's up?  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2017 - 11:29 PM ET #2

    Yes, between this AND Uranium ONE Deal, a helluva lot swamp creatures are in "full on cya" mode now.......

    These 2 scandals alone are filled with so many fingerprints involved, a new DOJ might just be needed....notice how much Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, and even good ole' Robert Mueller's involvement....quite the web to unravel with all the "slime" involved...and all the DNC., Clintons and their crime foundation......

    November 8, 2016 opened up this can.....All of them NEVER EVER thought all this bull sh*it might just get revealed 

    Corrupt Politics at it's finest....NOT....sick Trey Gowdy or the likes into looking into all this..let some REAL outsiders take a look into ALL  this...Somebody NEEDS to go to jail....preferably HRC since she is the common denominator here 

    DJT had it right,  "Crooked Hillary"  
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    Yes, between this AND Uranium ONE Deal, a helluva lot swamp creatures are in "full on cya" mode now.......

    These 2 scandals alone are filled with so many fingerprints involved, a new DOJ might just be needed....notice how much Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, and even good ole' Robert Mueller's involvement....quite the web to unravel with all the "slime" involved...and all the DNC., Clintons and their crime foundation......

    November 8, 2016 opened up this can.....All of them NEVER EVER thought all this bull sh*it might just get revealed 

    Corrupt Politics at it's finest....NOT....sick Trey Gowdy or the likes into looking into all this..let some REAL outsiders take a look into ALL  this...Somebody NEEDS to go to jail....preferably HRC since she is the common denominator here 

    DJT had it right,  "Crooked Hillary"  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2017 - 11:46 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 12:10 AM ET #4

    Yeah Sundance, I don't think those "swamp creatures" are laughing now 

    The TRUTH hurts...can't wait to see plenty more squirming and squeeling in the upcoming days and weeks...stay tuned..it's all going to be exposed..even the WAPO is starting to get involved..

    DJT's election VICTORY started all of this.....NO ONE ever imagined this nightmare....for so many......DRAIN the SWAMP baby....
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    Yeah Sundance, I don't think those "swamp creatures" are laughing now 

    The TRUTH hurts...can't wait to see plenty more squirming and squeeling in the upcoming days and weeks...stay tuned..it's all going to be exposed..even the WAPO is starting to get involved..

    DJT's election VICTORY started all of this.....NO ONE ever imagined this nightmare....for so many......DRAIN the SWAMP baby....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 12:33 AM ET #5

    Time for Jeff Sessions to appoint a "Special Consul" into all this 
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    Time for Jeff Sessions to appoint a "Special Consul" into all this 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 4:49 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:


    Then there is the MINOR issue of selling 20 % of nuclear fuel to Russian.. 
    And the MINOR issue of the monies paid to Clinton by Russia for a speaking fee which ended up in the Clinton Foundation..  
     

    Claims that Clinton gave 20% of US uranium to Russia in exchange for donations are unsubstantiated.  Fact checkers snopes and politifact rated these claims false.   Author of book "Clinton cash" admits that there is no proof Clinton played a role. 9 government agencies plus independent federal and state regulators must approve the deal.

    Furthermore, timeline is off because most of Clinton foundation donations occurred before Clinton was named as secretary of state.  Besides, Russia doesn't have license to export uranium outside the United States.  US imports 98% of its uranium from other countries.  Uranium deal has already been investigated.  More investigations would just be a waste of time and money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:


    Then there is the MINOR issue of selling 20 % of nuclear fuel to Russian.. 
    And the MINOR issue of the monies paid to Clinton by Russia for a speaking fee which ended up in the Clinton Foundation..  
     

    Claims that Clinton gave 20% of US uranium to Russia in exchange for donations are unsubstantiated.  Fact checkers snopes and politifact rated these claims false.   Author of book "Clinton cash" admits that there is no proof Clinton played a role. 9 government agencies plus independent federal and state regulators must approve the deal.

    Furthermore, timeline is off because most of Clinton foundation donations occurred before Clinton was named as secretary of state.  Besides, Russia doesn't have license to export uranium outside the United States.  US imports 98% of its uranium from other countries.  Uranium deal has already been investigated.  More investigations would just be a waste of time and money.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Claims that Clinton gave 20% of US uranium to Russia in exchange for donations are unsubstantiated.  Fact checkers snopes and politifact rated these claims false.   Author of book "Clinton cash" admits that there is no proof Clinton played a role. 9 government agencies plus independent federal and state regulators must approve the deal.

    Furthermore, timeline is off because most of Clinton foundation donations occurred before Clinton was named as secretary of state.  Besides, Russia doesn't have license to export uranium outside the United States.  US imports 98% of its uranium from other countries.  Uranium deal has already been investigated.  More investigations would just be a waste of time and money.

    Don't start citing facts, these rightwingers heads will blow apart !
    And as far as the "dossier" goes it was funded by a REPUBLICAN during the primaries originally. Funding is secondary, truth is primary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Claims that Clinton gave 20% of US uranium to Russia in exchange for donations are unsubstantiated.  Fact checkers snopes and politifact rated these claims false.   Author of book "Clinton cash" admits that there is no proof Clinton played a role. 9 government agencies plus independent federal and state regulators must approve the deal.

    Furthermore, timeline is off because most of Clinton foundation donations occurred before Clinton was named as secretary of state.  Besides, Russia doesn't have license to export uranium outside the United States.  US imports 98% of its uranium from other countries.  Uranium deal has already been investigated.  More investigations would just be a waste of time and money.

    Don't start citing facts, these rightwingers heads will blow apart !
    And as far as the "dossier" goes it was funded by a REPUBLICAN during the primaries originally. Funding is secondary, truth is primary.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 8:38 PM ET #8

    I don't  think  they are laughing either crusher. Some of these characters should be on suicide watch.
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    I don't  think  they are laughing either crusher. Some of these characters should be on suicide watch.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 9:51 PM ET #9

     Sundance, that would be an even better way to drain swamp.....
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     Sundance, that would be an even better way to drain swamp.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2017 - 10:01 AM ET #10

    NO doubt in my mind the fake war hero senator from AZ was behind this as well
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    NO doubt in my mind the fake war hero senator from AZ was behind this as well
     
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    The DC swamp will be drained. The powers that be should parade all of the criminals on floats in DC before they go to prison.

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    The DC swamp will be drained. The powers that be should parade all of the criminals on floats in DC before they go to prison.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2017 - 9:22 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    NO doubt in my mind the fake war hero senator from AZ was behind this as well

    Fake war hero? Something tells me you have never served our country. 

    I don't care that both parties paid for parts of this because President Peckerhead will be exposed in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    NO doubt in my mind the fake war hero senator from AZ was behind this as well

    Fake war hero? Something tells me you have never served our country. 

    I don't care that both parties paid for parts of this because President Peckerhead will be exposed in the end.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2017 - 10:12 AM ET #13

    the Fake War Hero is a disgrace and why our military doesn't win anymore....I also think being a war hero isn't the only thing he's faking.......

    tick tock tick tock tick tock

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    the Fake War Hero is a disgrace and why our military doesn't win anymore....I also think being a war hero isn't the only thing he's faking.......

    tick tock tick tock tick tock

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2017 - 9:58 AM ET #14

    The Washington Free Beacon says it hired intelligence firm Fusion GPS during the 2016 Republican presidential primary

    "Conservative" Web site Free Beacon funded anti-Trump research that produced the Trump dossier 
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    The Washington Free Beacon says it hired intelligence firm Fusion GPS during the 2016 Republican presidential primary

    "Conservative" Web site Free Beacon funded anti-Trump research that produced the Trump dossier 
     
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    Free Beacon said they originally funded the research firm Fusion GPS - "to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primaries". 

    Free Beacon said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now infamous dossier, prepared by Fusion GPS and former British intelligence officer Steele. 

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    Free Beacon said they originally funded the research firm Fusion GPS - "to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primaries". 

    Free Beacon said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now infamous dossier, prepared by Fusion GPS and former British intelligence officer Steele. 

     
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    The dossier's author, Steele, wasn't brought into the mix until AFTER Democrats retained Fusion GPS. So while Free Beacon and the Democrats paid Fusion GPS, Steele was only funded by Clinton and the Democrats. 

    Why hasn't the Clinton campaign or the DNC copped to funding the dossier? 

    1. Paying a foreigner for opposition research for an American political campaign. Does paying Steele amount to collusion with a foreign government? 

    2. Steele's dossier includes information it says was obtained from "a Sr Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin". 

    Clinton was essentially paying for information obtained from inside the Russian government, even if there is no proof they deliberately sought Russia's help. 

    3. Fusion GPS has alleged ties to the Kremlin. 

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    The dossier's author, Steele, wasn't brought into the mix until AFTER Democrats retained Fusion GPS. So while Free Beacon and the Democrats paid Fusion GPS, Steele was only funded by Clinton and the Democrats. 

    Why hasn't the Clinton campaign or the DNC copped to funding the dossier? 

    1. Paying a foreigner for opposition research for an American political campaign. Does paying Steele amount to collusion with a foreign government? 

    2. Steele's dossier includes information it says was obtained from "a Sr Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin". 

    Clinton was essentially paying for information obtained from inside the Russian government, even if there is no proof they deliberately sought Russia's help. 

    3. Fusion GPS has alleged ties to the Kremlin. 

     
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    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reportedly approved the first charges in Mueller’s investigation, and those charged could be taken into custody as soon as Monday...

    Lock her up !! 
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    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reportedly approved the first charges in Mueller’s investigation, and those charged could be taken into custody as soon as Monday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reportedly approved the first charges in Mueller’s investigation, and those charged could be taken into custody as soon as Monday...

    Lock her up !! 

    Don't have an orgasm slim, it won't be a "her".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reportedly approved the first charges in Mueller’s investigation, and those charged could be taken into custody as soon as Monday...

    Lock her up !! 

    Don't have an orgasm slim, it won't be a "her".
     
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    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Saturday accused Hillary Clinton's campaign of colluding with Russia during the 2016 presidential race, claiming that the evidence is "indisputable."..................

       "indisputable."

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    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Saturday accused Hillary Clinton's campaign of colluding with Russia during the 2016 presidential race, claiming that the evidence is "indisputable."..................

       "indisputable."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Saturday accused Hillary Clinton's campaign of colluding with Russia during the 2016 presidential race, claiming that the evidence is "indisputable."..................

       "indisputable."


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Saturday accused Hillary Clinton's campaign of colluding with Russia during the 2016 presidential race, claiming that the evidence is "indisputable."..................

       "indisputable."


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Don't look now but Paul Manacrook but was last seen driving a white Bronco!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Don't look now but Paul Manacrook but was last seen driving a white Bronco!
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