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    Dr. Ben Carson: Ryan’s budget works - Obama using sequester to punish Americans

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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2013 - 9:58 AM ET #1

    DR Ben Carson - "Americans are asleep at the wheel, Obamacare is taking away Freedoms"!!

    https://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53755

    In case you missed it, Dr. Ben Carson appeared on Fox and Friends yesterday and took a few questions. His most interesting comments were aimed at the Ryan budget, which he says “works” and is a “Step in the right direction.”  You can kind of tell that, like most conservatives, he doesn’t think it goes far enough, but - for now - it’s better than the alternative.

     

     

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    DR Ben Carson - "Americans are asleep at the wheel, Obamacare is taking away Freedoms"!!

    https://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53755

    In case you missed it, Dr. Ben Carson appeared on Fox and Friends yesterday and took a few questions. His most interesting comments were aimed at the Ryan budget, which he says “works” and is a “Step in the right direction.”  You can kind of tell that, like most conservatives, he doesn’t think it goes far enough, but - for now - it’s better than the alternative.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2013 - 1:51 PM ET #2

    What does Chris Matthews call Carson? He can not call him a racist.
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    What does Chris Matthews call Carson? He can not call him a racist.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2013 - 3:46 PM ET #3

    Dr Cason does more in week for humanity than Obama has done in his entire life. 4more years of this iwth Valerie Jarrett is driving me nuts.

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    Dr Cason does more in week for humanity than Obama has done in his entire life. 4more years of this iwth Valerie Jarrett is driving me nuts.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2013 - 4:17 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    What does Chris Matthews call Carson? He can not call him a racist.

     

    Haha so true.  It is hard for the left to demonize Ben Carson.  But I am sure they will try. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    What does Chris Matthews call Carson? He can not call him a racist.

     

    Haha so true.  It is hard for the left to demonize Ben Carson.  But I am sure they will try. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2013 - 10:19 PM ET #5

    Dr Ben Carson will be speaking at CPAC on Saturday morning at 10 AM.....   He will be offering Common Sense.   
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    Dr Ben Carson will be speaking at CPAC on Saturday morning at 10 AM.....   He will be offering Common Sense.   
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2013 - 10:46 PM ET #6


    F uck Dr Ben Carson.

    Common Sense? 


    Once Upon a Time...

    Health Care USED to be a very minor part of an American Employee's work package.  Aside from the Wage, the Employee USED to have Health Care, and a Pension and a Retirement Savings Plan.  This was years ago when a CEO earned 35 times what an average worker earned.

    Fast forward fifty years and somehow, magically, the CEO earns 400 times what an average worker earns.  AND the Employee has no more Pension, no more Retirement Savings Plan, and no more Health Care Coverage.

    WHAT HAPPENED?


    Dr Ben Carson is barking up the wrong tree.  The Hen House has been pillaged.  Try looking at the Fox instead of the slaughtered Chickens.


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    F uck Dr Ben Carson.

    Common Sense? 


    Once Upon a Time...

    Health Care USED to be a very minor part of an American Employee's work package.  Aside from the Wage, the Employee USED to have Health Care, and a Pension and a Retirement Savings Plan.  This was years ago when a CEO earned 35 times what an average worker earned.

    Fast forward fifty years and somehow, magically, the CEO earns 400 times what an average worker earns.  AND the Employee has no more Pension, no more Retirement Savings Plan, and no more Health Care Coverage.

    WHAT HAPPENED?


    Dr Ben Carson is barking up the wrong tree.  The Hen House has been pillaged.  Try looking at the Fox instead of the slaughtered Chickens.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 12:43 AM ET #7

    Yep..

    Funny how biases form opinions.

    Instead of addressing the MULTI decade long healthcare inflation mess, this guy targets a politician to make a political point.

    The problem isnt Obamacare it is that healthcare costs are out of control and have been for multiple decades.

    Lets keep pointing our fingers at the president while the pharma and other healthcare lobby groups are chopping off our heads while our backs are turned.


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    Yep..

    Funny how biases form opinions.

    Instead of addressing the MULTI decade long healthcare inflation mess, this guy targets a politician to make a political point.

    The problem isnt Obamacare it is that healthcare costs are out of control and have been for multiple decades.

    Lets keep pointing our fingers at the president while the pharma and other healthcare lobby groups are chopping off our heads while our backs are turned.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 12:47 AM ET #8

    Wall, explain how obamacare will fix this.
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    Wall, explain how obamacare will fix this.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 1:37 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:

    Wall, explain how obamacare will fix this.


    Where did I say it can fix the problem?

    I dont think it can..but this problem is a function of our political system and how we enable those with money to take from those who do not have the means to buy political favor.

    The concept of healthcare for all is not a bad one. People were crying when Clinton brought up the concept a decade plus ago..think if we had focused on the healthcare inflation back then and coming up with a solution then..or even BEFORE then..how much better off might we be had we thought and acted for future need rather than on political lines?

    Its akin to the electrical grid..nobody wants to pay to upgrade the electrical grid..hell the grid has needed to be expanded and upgraded for how long?

    If we wait LONG enough we will end up like India where they have 6-12 hr blackouts regularly because their grid is in shambles..same goes for our grid and our current healthcare problems.

    If we ignore the problem long enough I am sure it will eventually be too large to deal with, but hey we didnt have to take action today right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:

    Wall, explain how obamacare will fix this.


    Where did I say it can fix the problem?

    I dont think it can..but this problem is a function of our political system and how we enable those with money to take from those who do not have the means to buy political favor.

    The concept of healthcare for all is not a bad one. People were crying when Clinton brought up the concept a decade plus ago..think if we had focused on the healthcare inflation back then and coming up with a solution then..or even BEFORE then..how much better off might we be had we thought and acted for future need rather than on political lines?

    Its akin to the electrical grid..nobody wants to pay to upgrade the electrical grid..hell the grid has needed to be expanded and upgraded for how long?

    If we wait LONG enough we will end up like India where they have 6-12 hr blackouts regularly because their grid is in shambles..same goes for our grid and our current healthcare problems.

    If we ignore the problem long enough I am sure it will eventually be too large to deal with, but hey we didnt have to take action today right?


     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 2:15 AM ET #10

    you lost me at fox and friends... seems like you and sun had fun... perhaps others will join your "circle"
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    you lost me at fox and friends... seems like you and sun had fun... perhaps others will join your "circle"
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 10:12 AM ET #11

    Dr Ben Carson up Next!!!   He will be offering COMMON SENSE!!! 

     

    https://www.therightscoop.com/watch-live-cpac-2013/

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    Dr Ben Carson up Next!!!   He will be offering COMMON SENSE!!! 

     

    https://www.therightscoop.com/watch-live-cpac-2013/

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 11:37 AM ET #12

    Great speech! They should have had Allen West follow Carson to penus slap the Left a little bit more by 2 conservative, black  Americans who left the plantation of liberal madness years ago.
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    Great speech! They should have had Allen West follow Carson to penus slap the Left a little bit more by 2 conservative, black  Americans who left the plantation of liberal madness years ago.
     
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    Yeah, Allen West needs the work.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Yeah, Allen West needs the work.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #14

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/343156/carson-obama-trying-destroy-country-eliana-johnson

    Carson: Obama Trying to ‘Destroy the Country !!!

    “Let’s say somebody were [in the White House] and they wanted to destroy this nation,” Carson postulated in remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I would create division among the people, encourage a culture of ridicule for basic morality and the principles that made and sustained the country, undermine the financial stability of the nation, and weaken and destroy the military. It appears coincidentally that those are the very things that are happening right now.”

    Common Sense!!! 

     

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/343156/carson-obama-trying-destroy-country-eliana-johnson

    Carson: Obama Trying to ‘Destroy the Country !!!

    “Let’s say somebody were [in the White House] and they wanted to destroy this nation,” Carson postulated in remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I would create division among the people, encourage a culture of ridicule for basic morality and the principles that made and sustained the country, undermine the financial stability of the nation, and weaken and destroy the military. It appears coincidentally that those are the very things that are happening right now.”

    Common Sense!!! 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2013 - 5:13 PM ET #15

    Dr. Carson's four-point plan for destroying America

     

    1. Create division among the people.

    2. Encourage a culture of ridicule for basic moral principles.

    3. Undermine the nation's financial stability with crushing government debt.

    4. Weaken the morale and funding of the military.

    "It appears, coincidentally, that those are the very things happening right now," Carson noted ruefully, although he went on to say it would be a mistake to pin this entirely on Barack Obama, or any other individual.

     

    https://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/03/17/Dr-Carson-s-four-point-plan-for-destroying-America

     

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    Dr. Carson's four-point plan for destroying America

     

    1. Create division among the people.

    2. Encourage a culture of ridicule for basic moral principles.

    3. Undermine the nation's financial stability with crushing government debt.

    4. Weaken the morale and funding of the military.

    "It appears, coincidentally, that those are the very things happening right now," Carson noted ruefully, although he went on to say it would be a mistake to pin this entirely on Barack Obama, or any other individual.

     

    https://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/03/17/Dr-Carson-s-four-point-plan-for-destroying-America

     

     
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    what are basic moral principles and where do divorce, failing to pay child support, child molestation, adultery and covering up child molestation fit in?

    i don't understand how 3 works with 4.  defense spending is about 20% of the total budget and we spend more on defense than any other country and it's not even close.  so, crushing debt is a problem yet weakening funding for the military is also a problem? i'm not following that one? 
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    what are basic moral principles and where do divorce, failing to pay child support, child molestation, adultery and covering up child molestation fit in?

    i don't understand how 3 works with 4.  defense spending is about 20% of the total budget and we spend more on defense than any other country and it's not even close.  so, crushing debt is a problem yet weakening funding for the military is also a problem? i'm not following that one? 
     
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    Yes..

    The guy has obvious biases as you just explained..against debt but for one of the largest portions of our government outlays.

    Also phony is number two..vague and baseless.

    There has and will always be division amongst a large group of people, that is human nature..

    None of his points have much reality, lots of generalization and biases.
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    Yes..

    The guy has obvious biases as you just explained..against debt but for one of the largest portions of our government outlays.

    Also phony is number two..vague and baseless.

    There has and will always be division amongst a large group of people, that is human nature..

    None of his points have much reality, lots of generalization and biases.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 10:30 AM ET #18

    the Left can't stand Ben Carson and here is why:

    https://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/03/18/5-Reasons-Why-Liberals-Hate-Dr-Ben-Carson?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    1. Dr. Ben Carson is an existential threat to the America Race Industry and their business model which is rooted in an anti-American practice of peddling in a poisonous politics that draws blacks into a racial identity that retards advancement more than racism itself ever could.

    2. Dr. Ben Carson completely obliterates the notion so often perpetuated by the American Race Industry that because of America's past, no blacks, regardless of there talent and opportunity, should be held to any mainstream standard of morality or academic success.  

    3. Dr. Ben Carson is a Christian conservative who openly rejects the falseness of an Affirmative Action America, where some are held to a lower standard based on skin color. Standing up for the U.S. Constitution, Dr. Ben Carson revitalizes the meaning of American exceptionalism, where the individual is created equal under the law and is free to fail or succeed no matter what group you are born into. 

    4. Dr. Ben Carson makes hive-minded Media elites nauseous and self-centered Washington politicians nervous. 

    5. Dr. Ben Carson has hinted at a run for the presidency, an idea, that, if realized, could mean the end to the Democrat's Dependency Agenda. 

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    the Left can't stand Ben Carson and here is why:

    https://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/03/18/5-Reasons-Why-Liberals-Hate-Dr-Ben-Carson?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    1. Dr. Ben Carson is an existential threat to the America Race Industry and their business model which is rooted in an anti-American practice of peddling in a poisonous politics that draws blacks into a racial identity that retards advancement more than racism itself ever could.

    2. Dr. Ben Carson completely obliterates the notion so often perpetuated by the American Race Industry that because of America's past, no blacks, regardless of there talent and opportunity, should be held to any mainstream standard of morality or academic success.  

    3. Dr. Ben Carson is a Christian conservative who openly rejects the falseness of an Affirmative Action America, where some are held to a lower standard based on skin color. Standing up for the U.S. Constitution, Dr. Ben Carson revitalizes the meaning of American exceptionalism, where the individual is created equal under the law and is free to fail or succeed no matter what group you are born into. 

    4. Dr. Ben Carson makes hive-minded Media elites nauseous and self-centered Washington politicians nervous. 

    5. Dr. Ben Carson has hinted at a run for the presidency, an idea, that, if realized, could mean the end to the Democrat's Dependency Agenda. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 3:52 PM ET #19

    who on the left cant stand him?

    He is simply some one that anyone on the right will blindly follow... just like herman cain,star parker or any other talking head from this mold... and if he ran for office would have people blindly voting for him regardless of experience or ability...

    I get why people some of the mindless people on the right would be be all gitty like a school girl crush... 

     But honestly I think the left are too busy following their own talking heads to give his guy much thought or attention...


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    who on the left cant stand him?

    He is simply some one that anyone on the right will blindly follow... just like herman cain,star parker or any other talking head from this mold... and if he ran for office would have people blindly voting for him regardless of experience or ability...

    I get why people some of the mindless people on the right would be be all gitty like a school girl crush... 

     But honestly I think the left are too busy following their own talking heads to give his guy much thought or attention...


     
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    The Left has no one of consequence to follow. wThe Left tells us we need the fair and balanced approach. I with I had a dollar for every time I have heard that phrase in the last year. Dems will get booted in Nov of 2014 after the horrors of Obamacare inflict pain and suffering upon Americans.
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    The Left has no one of consequence to follow. wThe Left tells us we need the fair and balanced approach. I with I had a dollar for every time I have heard that phrase in the last year. Dems will get booted in Nov of 2014 after the horrors of Obamacare inflict pain and suffering upon Americans.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2013 - 7:56 PM ET #21

    no one of consquence?

    the left follow the Obama... the president of the untied states... and that position is of no consequence?


    Seriously.... you are saying the president of the united states is of no consequence?  is that what you area really saying?


    I think it is the other way around... the right appears to have alot of loud mouths and blow hard that are alot of hot air but really have no real effect other then preaching to the choir and stirring up the lemmings to start marching in line...

    also could have sworn fair and balanced was the fox"news" mantra...

    you really seemed confused here...


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    no one of consquence?

    the left follow the Obama... the president of the untied states... and that position is of no consequence?


    Seriously.... you are saying the president of the united states is of no consequence?  is that what you area really saying?


    I think it is the other way around... the right appears to have alot of loud mouths and blow hard that are alot of hot air but really have no real effect other then preaching to the choir and stirring up the lemmings to start marching in line...

    also could have sworn fair and balanced was the fox"news" mantra...

    you really seemed confused here...


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