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    Georgia election results.

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    Posted: May. 25, 2022 - 9:21 PM ET #1

     

    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November. That's a rematch from four years ago.

    But yesterday wasn't all bad news for the former president. His pick for the U.S. Senate, former NFL player Herschel Walker, easily won the nomination. And controversial Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene won the backing of 70 percent of Republicans in her district.

    Stephen Fowler is here for a closer look at the results. He's a political reporter for Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    Stephen Fowler, welcome back to the "NewsHour."

    So we see that some of former President Trump's endorses did well, others didn't. What does this say to you all — if you put it all together, about his influence among Georgia voters, and also, frankly, the strength of the big lie, that he actually won and Joe Biden didn't in 2020?

    Judy Woodruff:

    The results from Georgia's primary elections yesterday are the most high-profile rebuke of former President Donald Trump's chosen candidates so far this season.

    Two Republican incumbents who both stood up for the 2020 election results survived primary challengers. Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, whom the former president once pleaded with to help find the votes to overturn the 2020 results, won his race. And Governor Brian Kemp easily beat former Senator David Perdue, with more than 70 percent of the vote.

    Gov Kemp

    Even in the middle of a tough primary, conservatives across our state didn't listen to the noise. They didn't get distracted. They knew our record of fighting and winning for hardworking Georgians.

    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November. That's a rematch from four years ago.

    But yesterday wasn't all bad news for the former president. His pick for the U.S. Senate, former NFL player Herschel Walker, easily won the nomination. And controversial Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene won the backing of 70 percent of Republicans in her district.

    Stephen Fowler is here for a closer look at the results. He's a political reporter for Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    Stephen Fowler, welcome back to the "NewsHour."

    So we see that some of former President Trump's endorses did well, others didn't. What does this say to you all — if you put it all together, about his influence among Georgia voters, and also, frankly, the strength of the big lie, that he actually won and Joe Biden didn't in 2020?

    Stephen Fowler, Georgia Public Broadcasting:

    Well, Judy, I think there's a ceiling on just how far focusing on false claims about the 2020 election can get you as a Republican candidate.

    We saw that with David Perdue struggling and Jody Hice struggling in the secretary of state's race. But the reason Trump's candidates lost as well is that you had two popular incumbents that have a long record with Georgia voters, that have a long conservative record.

    For example, Brian Kemp flexed the power of his office in recent years to cut taxes for people and to pay teachers more and state employees more and to enact conservative policies around abortion and voting rights and firearms, and really didn't give Georgia voters that were Republicans much reason to go with somebody else.

    Same with Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who touted Georgia's election laws and record early voting turnout to say that he's the one that should be in charge.

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    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November. That's a rematch from four years ago.

    But yesterday wasn't all bad news for the former president. His pick for the U.S. Senate, former NFL player Herschel Walker, easily won the nomination. And controversial Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene won the backing of 70 percent of Republicans in her district.

    Stephen Fowler is here for a closer look at the results. He's a political reporter for Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    Stephen Fowler, welcome back to the "NewsHour."

    So we see that some of former President Trump's endorses did well, others didn't. What does this say to you all — if you put it all together, about his influence among Georgia voters, and also, frankly, the strength of the big lie, that he actually won and Joe Biden didn't in 2020?

    Judy Woodruff:

    The results from Georgia's primary elections yesterday are the most high-profile rebuke of former President Donald Trump's chosen candidates so far this season.

    Two Republican incumbents who both stood up for the 2020 election results survived primary challengers. Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, whom the former president once pleaded with to help find the votes to overturn the 2020 results, won his race. And Governor Brian Kemp easily beat former Senator David Perdue, with more than 70 percent of the vote.

    Gov Kemp

    Even in the middle of a tough primary, conservatives across our state didn't listen to the noise. They didn't get distracted. They knew our record of fighting and winning for hardworking Georgians.

    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November. That's a rematch from four years ago.

    But yesterday wasn't all bad news for the former president. His pick for the U.S. Senate, former NFL player Herschel Walker, easily won the nomination. And controversial Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene won the backing of 70 percent of Republicans in her district.

    Stephen Fowler is here for a closer look at the results. He's a political reporter for Georgia Public Broadcasting.

    Stephen Fowler, welcome back to the "NewsHour."

    So we see that some of former President Trump's endorses did well, others didn't. What does this say to you all — if you put it all together, about his influence among Georgia voters, and also, frankly, the strength of the big lie, that he actually won and Joe Biden didn't in 2020?

    Stephen Fowler, Georgia Public Broadcasting:

    Well, Judy, I think there's a ceiling on just how far focusing on false claims about the 2020 election can get you as a Republican candidate.

    We saw that with David Perdue struggling and Jody Hice struggling in the secretary of state's race. But the reason Trump's candidates lost as well is that you had two popular incumbents that have a long record with Georgia voters, that have a long conservative record.

    For example, Brian Kemp flexed the power of his office in recent years to cut taxes for people and to pay teachers more and state employees more and to enact conservative policies around abortion and voting rights and firearms, and really didn't give Georgia voters that were Republicans much reason to go with somebody else.

    Same with Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who touted Georgia's election laws and record early voting turnout to say that he's the one that should be in charge.

     
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    Judy Woodruff:

    So, when it comes to belief and, as we said, the big lie, can — does it give — do these results give you a sense of how firm a hold that view has on many — on Republican voters in Georgia?

    Stephen Fowler:

    I think the message that Republican voters are sending is that it's time to move on and that there is a future for the Republican Party, not the past.

    And the resounding margins for Kemp and even Raffensperger show that most voters are looking ahead, and not focused on the past, and that Trump's sway doesn't necessarily carry as much weight as it used to

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    Judy Woodruff:

    So, when it comes to belief and, as we said, the big lie, can — does it give — do these results give you a sense of how firm a hold that view has on many — on Republican voters in Georgia?

    Stephen Fowler:

    I think the message that Republican voters are sending is that it's time to move on and that there is a future for the Republican Party, not the past.

    And the resounding margins for Kemp and even Raffensperger show that most voters are looking ahead, and not focused on the past, and that Trump's sway doesn't necessarily carry as much weight as it used to

     
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    Judy Woodruff:

    And then let's — and we're including in that the look — a look at Herschel Walker, but, as you point out, he didn't have the significant opposition that the others did.

    Let me ask you about Marjorie Taylor Greene, congresswoman, controversial. What about her race, her congressional district?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene is exactly what the voters in that district want in a representative.

    She also too now has the power of incumbency and time in office. And many of the people running against her ran as an opposition to Marjorie Taylor Greene. And that's just something that the voters didn't want. She's very controversial, but she is very representative of Trump's policies. Obviously, Trump endorsed her. She's very close to the former president. And for the people of Northwest Georgia, which is one of the most conservative districts in the country, that's exactly who they want representing them in the halls of Congress. 

    Judy Woodruff:

    So, Stephen Fowler, look ahead to the fall, to November for us.

    What does it look like for Brian Kemp facing — in a rematch with Stacey Abrams?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Well, Brian Kemp won by about 55,000 votes in 2018.

    And Georgia's politics has become even more of a hardened battleground since then. So, both sides are expecting a really, really tough race. I mean, Kemp is riding this wave of incumbency, where he had a decisive victory at a time when people were saying maybe he would face a run-off. So it's going to be tight, it's going to be expensive, and it's going to be really a nationally watched election.

    Judy Woodruff:

    And the Senate race tight as well?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Absolutely.

    Raphael Warnock is the Democrat who won in the 2021 special election, and is one of the most vulnerable incumbents on the ballot across the country. And Herschel Walker has a lot of celebrity power in Georgia that Trump's endorsement probably wouldn't even matter, because Georgians love him so much and know him so much from his football past.

    But Walker has a past where there's some questions about domestic violence allegations and overstated resumes. So this too will be a deciding race for Georgia, but also potentially for the U.S. Senate and who controls it.

    Judy Woodruff:

    All eyes on the Peach State now and for the months to come.

    Thank you very much, Stephen Fowler.

    Stephen Fowler:

    Thank you.

     

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    Judy Woodruff:

    And then let's — and we're including in that the look — a look at Herschel Walker, but, as you point out, he didn't have the significant opposition that the others did.

    Let me ask you about Marjorie Taylor Greene, congresswoman, controversial. What about her race, her congressional district?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene is exactly what the voters in that district want in a representative.

    She also too now has the power of incumbency and time in office. And many of the people running against her ran as an opposition to Marjorie Taylor Greene. And that's just something that the voters didn't want. She's very controversial, but she is very representative of Trump's policies. Obviously, Trump endorsed her. She's very close to the former president. And for the people of Northwest Georgia, which is one of the most conservative districts in the country, that's exactly who they want representing them in the halls of Congress. 

    Judy Woodruff:

    So, Stephen Fowler, look ahead to the fall, to November for us.

    What does it look like for Brian Kemp facing — in a rematch with Stacey Abrams?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Well, Brian Kemp won by about 55,000 votes in 2018.

    And Georgia's politics has become even more of a hardened battleground since then. So, both sides are expecting a really, really tough race. I mean, Kemp is riding this wave of incumbency, where he had a decisive victory at a time when people were saying maybe he would face a run-off. So it's going to be tight, it's going to be expensive, and it's going to be really a nationally watched election.

    Judy Woodruff:

    And the Senate race tight as well?

    Stephen Fowler:

    Absolutely.

    Raphael Warnock is the Democrat who won in the 2021 special election, and is one of the most vulnerable incumbents on the ballot across the country. And Herschel Walker has a lot of celebrity power in Georgia that Trump's endorsement probably wouldn't even matter, because Georgians love him so much and know him so much from his football past.

    But Walker has a past where there's some questions about domestic violence allegations and overstated resumes. So this too will be a deciding race for Georgia, but also potentially for the U.S. Senate and who controls it.

    Judy Woodruff:

    All eyes on the Peach State now and for the months to come.

    Thank you very much, Stephen Fowler.

    Stephen Fowler:

    Thank you.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November.

    That's a rematch from four years ago.

    and it was an extrremely anrrow win for kemp at that      an upset here is quite possible thumbs_up

    not sure   but would that make abrams the first ever black woman governor ?

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Governor Kemp will face Democrat Stacey Abrams in November.

    That's a rematch from four years ago.

    and it was an extrremely anrrow win for kemp at that      an upset here is quite possible thumbs_up

    not sure   but would that make abrams the first ever black woman governor ?

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2022 - 9:47 PM ET #5

    Abrams and Warnock stride together either their both elected or neither is ...

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    Abrams and Warnock stride together either their both elected or neither is ...

     
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    As far as Margery Greene is concerned she a sure win in time Georgia. It's a two fer..,. One it just the monkey wrench Washington needs to cog things up...

    And 2 it gets her out of town for a while... 

    That race should be a lock.

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    As far as Margery Greene is concerned she a sure win in time Georgia. It's a two fer..,. One it just the monkey wrench Washington needs to cog things up...

    And 2 it gets her out of town for a while... 

    That race should be a lock.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Abrams and Warnock stride together either their both elected or neither is ...

    Abrams, the former minority leader of the state House of Representatives, previously ran against Kemp in 2018, ultimately losing to the Republican by a little under 55,000 votes—about 1.4 percent of the ballots cast. This year, the Democratic candidate aims to build on President Joe Biden's upset victory in the state in 2020 and unseat the GOP governor.

    While Biden narrowly flipped traditionally conservative Georgia blue in the last presidential election, recent polls suggest that Abrams will face an uphill battle as she takes on Kemp in the general election on November 8. News and polling analysis site FiveThirtyEight reports that Georgia continues to have a GOP partisan lean of about 7.4 percent.

    However if enough have grievance with the handling of the election process they are not voting for Abrams but they may abstain from voting.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Abrams and Warnock stride together either their both elected or neither is ...

    Abrams, the former minority leader of the state House of Representatives, previously ran against Kemp in 2018, ultimately losing to the Republican by a little under 55,000 votes—about 1.4 percent of the ballots cast. This year, the Democratic candidate aims to build on President Joe Biden's upset victory in the state in 2020 and unseat the GOP governor.

    While Biden narrowly flipped traditionally conservative Georgia blue in the last presidential election, recent polls suggest that Abrams will face an uphill battle as she takes on Kemp in the general election on November 8. News and polling analysis site FiveThirtyEight reports that Georgia continues to have a GOP partisan lean of about 7.4 percent.

    However if enough have grievance with the handling of the election process they are not voting for Abrams but they may abstain from voting.....

     
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     We have never elected a black female as Governor in the country.

    On the other hand, we never had a black female Supreme Court Justice until this year.

    Times are changing....

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     We have never elected a black female as Governor in the country.

    On the other hand, we never had a black female Supreme Court Justice until this year.

    Times are changing....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @KellyM_1964  We have never elected a black female as Governor in the country. On the other hand, we never had a black female Supreme Court Justice until this year. Times are changing....

    Back in 2005 Biden made it known that if the Republicans considered nominating Janice Roger Brown, a black women, he would filibuster the nomination. 

    As he did when she was nominated for Federal Appeals Court. 

    Biden, then a U.S. senator, said on a July 3, 2005, episode of "Face the Nation" that if Bush nominated Brown, "I can assure you that would be a very, very, very difficult fight and she probably would be filibustered." 

    Maybe it should read, "Biden is a changing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @KellyM_1964  We have never elected a black female as Governor in the country. On the other hand, we never had a black female Supreme Court Justice until this year. Times are changing....

    Back in 2005 Biden made it known that if the Republicans considered nominating Janice Roger Brown, a black women, he would filibuster the nomination. 

    As he did when she was nominated for Federal Appeals Court. 

    Biden, then a U.S. senator, said on a July 3, 2005, episode of "Face the Nation" that if Bush nominated Brown, "I can assure you that would be a very, very, very difficult fight and she probably would be filibustered." 

    Maybe it should read, "Biden is a changing"

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2022 - 10:05 PM ET #10

    For the times they are a changing

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    For the times they are a changing

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2022 - 7:56 AM ET #11

    Polls are razor thin all falling within a margin of error.

    between Walker and Warnock, 

    With Walker leading the avg by .5 % 

    Source real politics polls.

    This plays well for Abrams.

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    Polls are razor thin all falling within a margin of error.

    between Walker and Warnock, 

    With Walker leading the avg by .5 % 

    Source real politics polls.

    This plays well for Abrams.

     
     
    nature1970
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2022 - 8:02 AM ET #12

    Logic.

     

    Both Walker and Warnock are African American possibly splitting the vote. However Abrams is the only African American on the ticket.

    With the brave work of exposing the fraud in Georgia by Sundance against Georgia governor and secretary of state not finding enough votes exposed by Sundance and company.

    And with the strong get out the vote efforts by the Democrats.

    This should discourage trump supporters to abstain from voting ( it's all rigged we were cheated) giving the edge to a democratic sweep...

    Warnock and Abrams will be representing Georgia in November.

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    Logic.

     

    Both Walker and Warnock are African American possibly splitting the vote. However Abrams is the only African American on the ticket.

    With the brave work of exposing the fraud in Georgia by Sundance against Georgia governor and secretary of state not finding enough votes exposed by Sundance and company.

    And with the strong get out the vote efforts by the Democrats.

    This should discourage trump supporters to abstain from voting ( it's all rigged we were cheated) giving the edge to a democratic sweep...

    Warnock and Abrams will be representing Georgia in November.

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