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    making the argument for a national bottle bill.

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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 12:12 AM ET #1

    The 'bottle bill " was reintroduced by Oregon over 40 years ago.
    Its intention was to reduce highway litter and promote recycling of material used to construct the beverage container.

    In states that have a redemption policy recycling increases by 40% (1)
    Litter on highways decrease by 70% (2) . The intention of the bill in states that have adopted redemption policies have been a huge success.

    Their are many hidden benefits to having a redeemable worth  on beverage containers. 

    Beverage redemption allows 9 new self funded full time jobs provided by the consumption of beverages within a 10,000 population area. by allowing redemption these low stress jobs can be provided to people with disabilities including veterans. These jobs are absolved by a 5 cent per container at retail. those who choose to put their containers into "trash"  reception allows transfer stations to provide off setting costs to material going to land fills.

    a 3-4 cent handling fee is given to redemption facilities to deal with the material, Coca cola picks up soda cans plastics these are remade into new containers. National bottling takes most glass containers, and aluminium containers to recycle to clear green and brown glass beverage containers as well as new aluminium cans for beer bottling industry. off brands such as nestle waters, polar Niagara and other bottling industries using plastic containers is transferred by Tomarah, a Norwegian firm. this is used for primary energy burning boiler capacity given a 450 per ton value based within BTU output and current oil prices. 

    This reuse of current production material reduces landfill waste. Tomrah corporation has developed machines. These machines scan UPC codes recognize the manufacture to charge companies selling in redemption states the nickel to 10 cent value plus a 3. -4 cent value for the independent redemption center receives to handle the material. trucks that bring beverages to stores pick up the material and bring them back to the bottling plants.

    Tomrah utilizes independent trucking firms such as recyclable resources based in Machias Maine to gather the material for trailers owed by Tomrah and drivers move this material to plant headquarters in various states to be burned in precept regulated boilers for energy. Tomrah advertises for independent drivers owners through its website.

    There are public safety benefits as well ,as litter as a whole is reduced alcohol containers are concentrated,

     In a minimum security work projects through state correction systems,  gloves are worn, sanitary conditions.
     Alcohol containers can be recovered, The same beer bottle in the same place by the same person allows Police to easily discern who what vehicle.  With in the context of card all policies adopted by most retail stores, license are scanned . The individual is drinking and driving, This tatic would be supported by the general public in a non partisan to secure roads and highways from needless victims of drunk driving crashes. 

    Further quick fix bongs ( pipes made from aluminum cans) are discarded, the residue from with these containers can be taken to a lab to determine beyond finger  prints what substances are available to the user, meth crack heroin is utilized and inhaled by these pipes and are discarded on highways as well. Cut the can take a sample.

    Other adaptions to the tomarah container reducers is ability to anylize a bar code to color with in the computer program a milk container can be rejected if the bar code states it is a clear container.
     Thus containers used to make Chrystal Meth can be anylized as the company has a video feed from the machine to the company to see what happened to a machine that needs repair, this same system can scan a container and discern the manufacture if the container was used for Meth Manufacturing.

    In conclusion a National Bottle Bill will reduce litter, allow for public safety and give charitable organizations a recourse in bottle drives, off set the costs of highway cleanup state correction programs and generate low stress cost neutral for states participation in redeeming beverage containers.

    1 massachussetes study of redemption policies,
    2 new york studies in expansion of bottle containers to include water containers.
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    The 'bottle bill " was reintroduced by Oregon over 40 years ago.
    Its intention was to reduce highway litter and promote recycling of material used to construct the beverage container.

    In states that have a redemption policy recycling increases by 40% (1)
    Litter on highways decrease by 70% (2) . The intention of the bill in states that have adopted redemption policies have been a huge success.

    Their are many hidden benefits to having a redeemable worth  on beverage containers. 

    Beverage redemption allows 9 new self funded full time jobs provided by the consumption of beverages within a 10,000 population area. by allowing redemption these low stress jobs can be provided to people with disabilities including veterans. These jobs are absolved by a 5 cent per container at retail. those who choose to put their containers into "trash"  reception allows transfer stations to provide off setting costs to material going to land fills.

    a 3-4 cent handling fee is given to redemption facilities to deal with the material, Coca cola picks up soda cans plastics these are remade into new containers. National bottling takes most glass containers, and aluminium containers to recycle to clear green and brown glass beverage containers as well as new aluminium cans for beer bottling industry. off brands such as nestle waters, polar Niagara and other bottling industries using plastic containers is transferred by Tomarah, a Norwegian firm. this is used for primary energy burning boiler capacity given a 450 per ton value based within BTU output and current oil prices. 

    This reuse of current production material reduces landfill waste. Tomrah corporation has developed machines. These machines scan UPC codes recognize the manufacture to charge companies selling in redemption states the nickel to 10 cent value plus a 3. -4 cent value for the independent redemption center receives to handle the material. trucks that bring beverages to stores pick up the material and bring them back to the bottling plants.

    Tomrah utilizes independent trucking firms such as recyclable resources based in Machias Maine to gather the material for trailers owed by Tomrah and drivers move this material to plant headquarters in various states to be burned in precept regulated boilers for energy. Tomrah advertises for independent drivers owners through its website.

    There are public safety benefits as well ,as litter as a whole is reduced alcohol containers are concentrated,

     In a minimum security work projects through state correction systems,  gloves are worn, sanitary conditions.
     Alcohol containers can be recovered, The same beer bottle in the same place by the same person allows Police to easily discern who what vehicle.  With in the context of card all policies adopted by most retail stores, license are scanned . The individual is drinking and driving, This tatic would be supported by the general public in a non partisan to secure roads and highways from needless victims of drunk driving crashes. 

    Further quick fix bongs ( pipes made from aluminum cans) are discarded, the residue from with these containers can be taken to a lab to determine beyond finger  prints what substances are available to the user, meth crack heroin is utilized and inhaled by these pipes and are discarded on highways as well. Cut the can take a sample.

    Other adaptions to the tomarah container reducers is ability to anylize a bar code to color with in the computer program a milk container can be rejected if the bar code states it is a clear container.
     Thus containers used to make Chrystal Meth can be anylized as the company has a video feed from the machine to the company to see what happened to a machine that needs repair, this same system can scan a container and discern the manufacture if the container was used for Meth Manufacturing.

    In conclusion a National Bottle Bill will reduce litter, allow for public safety and give charitable organizations a recourse in bottle drives, off set the costs of highway cleanup state correction programs and generate low stress cost neutral for states participation in redeeming beverage containers.

    1 massachussetes study of redemption policies,
    2 new york studies in expansion of bottle containers to include water containers.
     
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    cliff note version:
     1 gives low stress jobs to disabled citizens.
     2 reduces litter on highways.
     3 gives law enforcement valuable data on drunk driving and drug use in a specific area.
     4 helps charitable organizations such as boy and girl scouts, booster athletic programs, project graduation and other charitable non profits resources to fund activities,
    5 saves our planet from pollution derived from plastic glass and metal on our beaches, roadways and soil.


    its is the right thing to do to take responsibility as an individual to sustain conservation to Keep America beautiful.

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    cliff note version:
     1 gives low stress jobs to disabled citizens.
     2 reduces litter on highways.
     3 gives law enforcement valuable data on drunk driving and drug use in a specific area.
     4 helps charitable organizations such as boy and girl scouts, booster athletic programs, project graduation and other charitable non profits resources to fund activities,
    5 saves our planet from pollution derived from plastic glass and metal on our beaches, roadways and soil.


    its is the right thing to do to take responsibility as an individual to sustain conservation to Keep America beautiful.

     
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    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 
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    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 8:10 AM ET #4

    i go off into the woods to witness something different then town.

    some places in Maine are truly picturesque . feel been awhile since someone been here before. look down at beer can, or plastic bottle just think y? come all the way out here just to trash the place?
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    i go off into the woods to witness something different then town.

    some places in Maine are truly picturesque . feel been awhile since someone been here before. look down at beer can, or plastic bottle just think y? come all the way out here just to trash the place?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 

    thought about this this morning. It is disinfranchisement, affluent areas have ownership a sense of this our street our neiborhood our city, In poor areas of renters it is their neiborhood their city their government. Rural developement and Housing urban devolopement wasx ment to bring the "poor" into ownership. the points that stuck was that a neiborhood of morgage holders would be far different from a neibor hood owned by land management groups and rented to populations. this was underminded by the land ownership groups not a good buisiness plan to large rental property management systems. With always a cloud of eveiction processes in the back ground . littering becomes a form of protest even it be only subliminally fu to the man so to speak. laws get tougher but no reduction imposed by fines will gain control of litter, only thing is the hope for our future generations. take the gulf bp destroyed the ecosystem guy walks down 8th parish and drops the wrappers to his pack of cigerettes. 
    these things are3 related as all things are but to take the time to describe chaos theory in detail on my lunch break is not realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 

    thought about this this morning. It is disinfranchisement, affluent areas have ownership a sense of this our street our neiborhood our city, In poor areas of renters it is their neiborhood their city their government. Rural developement and Housing urban devolopement wasx ment to bring the "poor" into ownership. the points that stuck was that a neiborhood of morgage holders would be far different from a neibor hood owned by land management groups and rented to populations. this was underminded by the land ownership groups not a good buisiness plan to large rental property management systems. With always a cloud of eveiction processes in the back ground . littering becomes a form of protest even it be only subliminally fu to the man so to speak. laws get tougher but no reduction imposed by fines will gain control of litter, only thing is the hope for our future generations. take the gulf bp destroyed the ecosystem guy walks down 8th parish and drops the wrappers to his pack of cigerettes. 
    these things are3 related as all things are but to take the time to describe chaos theory in detail on my lunch break is not realistic.
     
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    one of the pet peeves at CDS is littering.  i don't live in greenwich like hugh jorman sports, but i definitely notice the difference in attitudes towards littering in different neighborhoods.  i don't understand why people think the environment is their personal trash can?

    cds and younger members of the cds entourage do community service once or twice a year where we go to common areas near out house and pick up trash.  i welcome any of you to do the same.  it's good for the kids.

    anyway, i also don't understand why they don't use inmates from the jails to pick up trash along the roads.  if people aren't going to respect their surroundings, we should have inmates take care of it.  seems like a win win for everyone. 
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    one of the pet peeves at CDS is littering.  i don't live in greenwich like hugh jorman sports, but i definitely notice the difference in attitudes towards littering in different neighborhoods.  i don't understand why people think the environment is their personal trash can?

    cds and younger members of the cds entourage do community service once or twice a year where we go to common areas near out house and pick up trash.  i welcome any of you to do the same.  it's good for the kids.

    anyway, i also don't understand why they don't use inmates from the jails to pick up trash along the roads.  if people aren't going to respect their surroundings, we should have inmates take care of it.  seems like a win win for everyone. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 12:26 PM ET #7

    Cd- Contractors get put out of work when inmates do it. Leads to corruption and ultimately wardens that kill themsrlves.
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    Cd- Contractors get put out of work when inmates do it. Leads to corruption and ultimately wardens that kill themsrlves.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    Cd- Contractors get put out of work when inmates do it. Leads to corruption and ultimately wardens that kill themsrlves.


    this post escalated quite a bit there at the end.

    i'm all for contractors getting paid to do it.  it's not easy work.  but they clearly aren't doing it here so i'd vote for getting the inmates out there and doing it for free. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    Cd- Contractors get put out of work when inmates do it. Leads to corruption and ultimately wardens that kill themsrlves.


    this post escalated quite a bit there at the end.

    i'm all for contractors getting paid to do it.  it's not easy work.  but they clearly aren't doing it here so i'd vote for getting the inmates out there and doing it for free. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 12:37 PM ET #9

    It's a shawshank redemption reference. 
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    It's a shawshank redemption reference. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    It's a shawshank redemption reference. 


    great movie, but it's been a while since i've seen that one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    It's a shawshank redemption reference. 


    great movie, but it's been a while since i've seen that one. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2017 - 2:21 PM ET #11

    minimum risk inmates will volunteer to get outside for the day. they literally do nothing but occassionally mop the floors as described in the south trustee status. a lot has changed since the setting for shawshank redemption described by king.
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    minimum risk inmates will volunteer to get outside for the day. they literally do nothing but occassionally mop the floors as described in the south trustee status. a lot has changed since the setting for shawshank redemption described by king.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 
    People who drive Luxory Cars tend to keep them cleaner than people who drive beaters. The more something has actual value, the more people tend to value it. It's not that people in affluent areas are naturally cleaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Not to take your thread in a different direction ... but ...

    I live in an affluent area. We have no litter. Zero. Nada. None.

    I work in poor neighborhoods, and the littering that I witness on a daily basis is shocking. 
    People drive down the street, and as soon as they finish their Big Mac and fries, they throw the entire bag of garbage out the window of their moving car. 
    Someone eating something on the sidewalk, garbage can 4 feet away, they drop the wrapper of their food on the sidewalk.

    These are not isolated cases, they are the norm.

    I don't get it 
    People who drive Luxory Cars tend to keep them cleaner than people who drive beaters. The more something has actual value, the more people tend to value it. It's not that people in affluent areas are naturally cleaner.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    People who drive Luxory Cars tend to keep them cleaner than people who drive beaters. The more something has actual value, the more people tend to value it. It's not that people in affluent areas are naturally cleaner.



    i used to live in the tenderloin.  not the cleanest place.   maybe smelled like urine quite often.  but great location. 
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    People who drive Luxory Cars tend to keep them cleaner than people who drive beaters. The more something has actual value, the more people tend to value it. It's not that people in affluent areas are naturally cleaner.



    i used to live in the tenderloin.  not the cleanest place.   maybe smelled like urine quite often.  but great location. 
     
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    anyway, i also don't understand why they don't use inmates from the jails to pick up trash along the roads.  if people aren't going to respect their surroundings, we should have inmates take care of it.  seems like a win win for everyone. 

    I agree.

    In the neighborhoods that I work you occasionally see some supervised younger people in jumpsuits picking up trash. I believe these are just kids with very minor offenses who are performing community service as part of their AR. 

    Personally, I believe that every inmate (non violent offender) should be made to work. 
    If the cost of incarcerating someone is $147 per day (random amount) than that inmate should produce $147 a day for the state in which he is imprisoned. 

    Cleaning up litter, farming, dredging sewage ... whatever needs to be done.  
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    anyway, i also don't understand why they don't use inmates from the jails to pick up trash along the roads.  if people aren't going to respect their surroundings, we should have inmates take care of it.  seems like a win win for everyone. 

    I agree.

    In the neighborhoods that I work you occasionally see some supervised younger people in jumpsuits picking up trash. I believe these are just kids with very minor offenses who are performing community service as part of their AR. 

    Personally, I believe that every inmate (non violent offender) should be made to work. 
    If the cost of incarcerating someone is $147 per day (random amount) than that inmate should produce $147 a day for the state in which he is imprisoned. 

    Cleaning up litter, farming, dredging sewage ... whatever needs to be done.  
     
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    it's a win for everyone.  trash gets picked up and the city doesn't look like a friggin garbage dump anymore.  the taxpayers get a return on the cost of housing inmates.  inmates get to go outside and do something productive. 

    there's some cost involved in transporting inmates around town and having a few guards watch them but if you've ever been around a police department or in a jail, you'll know that you see a lot of officers and deputies sitting around doing nothing so i'm guessing most cities could spare a few people to babysit these inmates picking up trash. 
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    it's a win for everyone.  trash gets picked up and the city doesn't look like a friggin garbage dump anymore.  the taxpayers get a return on the cost of housing inmates.  inmates get to go outside and do something productive. 

    there's some cost involved in transporting inmates around town and having a few guards watch them but if you've ever been around a police department or in a jail, you'll know that you see a lot of officers and deputies sitting around doing nothing so i'm guessing most cities could spare a few people to babysit these inmates picking up trash. 
     
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    possiblity sorry back to thread gentlemen but the bottles and cans can be made into a small check for the inmates to share it will not be much but it could be simply credit at the commissary for items purchased at the Jail.

    this type of program can actual rehabiltate inmates to understand work = money = commodities they wish to have. even if it is in states that scraps the aluminum to the 15 cents a pound junk yards pay.

    offsetting any notion or equating this to prison labor in North Korea.
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    possiblity sorry back to thread gentlemen but the bottles and cans can be made into a small check for the inmates to share it will not be much but it could be simply credit at the commissary for items purchased at the Jail.

    this type of program can actual rehabiltate inmates to understand work = money = commodities they wish to have. even if it is in states that scraps the aluminum to the 15 cents a pound junk yards pay.

    offsetting any notion or equating this to prison labor in North Korea.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    it's a win for everyone.  trash gets picked up and the city doesn't look like a friggin garbage dump anymore.  the taxpayers get a return on the cost of housing inmates.  inmates get to go outside and do something productive. 

    there's some cost involved in transporting inmates around town and having a few guards watch them but if you've ever been around a police department or in a jail, you'll know that you see a lot of officers and deputies sitting around doing nothing so i'm guessing most cities could spare a few people to babysit these inmates picking up trash. 

    thought of dissenting arguments , instead of chain gangs, or very expensive ankle bracelets. a device made of Kevlar with an embedded geo tracking chip imbedded into the bracelet could be attached as a single cuff with key could reduce costs, geo tracking devices are used for a reality type game called geo tracker. the device is small and sends a signal to gps grid allowing for trail marking and other things by far less expensive for the inevitable runner escape mentality some prisoners have.
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    it's a win for everyone.  trash gets picked up and the city doesn't look like a friggin garbage dump anymore.  the taxpayers get a return on the cost of housing inmates.  inmates get to go outside and do something productive. 

    there's some cost involved in transporting inmates around town and having a few guards watch them but if you've ever been around a police department or in a jail, you'll know that you see a lot of officers and deputies sitting around doing nothing so i'm guessing most cities could spare a few people to babysit these inmates picking up trash. 

    thought of dissenting arguments , instead of chain gangs, or very expensive ankle bracelets. a device made of Kevlar with an embedded geo tracking chip imbedded into the bracelet could be attached as a single cuff with key could reduce costs, geo tracking devices are used for a reality type game called geo tracker. the device is small and sends a signal to gps grid allowing for trail marking and other things by far less expensive for the inevitable runner escape mentality some prisoners have.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:


    thought of dissenting arguments , instead of chain gangs, or very expensive ankle bracelets. a device made of Kevlar with an embedded geo tracking chip imbedded into the bracelet could be attached as a single cuff with key could reduce costs, geo tracking devices are used for a reality type game called geo tracker. the device is small and sends a signal to gps grid allowing for trail marking and other things by far less expensive for the inevitable runner escape mentality some prisoners have.


    you really don't need that.  you just grab people from the local jail with nonviolent crimes who have a couple of months left on their sentence.  there would be very little incentive to escape and if they did, they'd be almost out anyway and they'd know they'd get hammered when they got caught. 

    they have these guys doing clean up and maintenance at our courthouse.  they can wander around and do their jobs.  it makes no sense for them to escape.  they might get some time off their sentence for doing it, but you don't need that because the local jail is boring  this gives them something different to do. 
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    thought of dissenting arguments , instead of chain gangs, or very expensive ankle bracelets. a device made of Kevlar with an embedded geo tracking chip imbedded into the bracelet could be attached as a single cuff with key could reduce costs, geo tracking devices are used for a reality type game called geo tracker. the device is small and sends a signal to gps grid allowing for trail marking and other things by far less expensive for the inevitable runner escape mentality some prisoners have.


    you really don't need that.  you just grab people from the local jail with nonviolent crimes who have a couple of months left on their sentence.  there would be very little incentive to escape and if they did, they'd be almost out anyway and they'd know they'd get hammered when they got caught. 

    they have these guys doing clean up and maintenance at our courthouse.  they can wander around and do their jobs.  it makes no sense for them to escape.  they might get some time off their sentence for doing it, but you don't need that because the local jail is boring  this gives them something different to do. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The 'bottle bill " was reintroduced by Oregon over 40 years ago.
    Its intention was to reduce highway litter and promote recycling of material used to construct the beverage container.

    In states that have a redemption policy recycling increases by 40% (1)
    Litter on highways decrease by 70% (2) . The intention of the bill in states that have adopted redemption policies have been a huge success.

    Their are many hidden benefits to having a redeemable worth  on beverage containers. 

    Beverage redemption allows 9 new self funded full time jobs provided by the consumption of beverages within a 10,000 population area. by allowing redemption these low stress jobs can be provided to people with disabilities including veterans. These jobs are absolved by a 5 cent per container at retail. those who choose to put their containers into "trash"  reception allows transfer stations to provide off setting costs to material going to land fills.

    a 3-4 cent handling fee is given to redemption facilities to deal with the material, Coca cola picks up soda cans plastics these are remade into new containers. National bottling takes most glass containers, and aluminium containers to recycle to clear green and brown glass beverage containers as well as new aluminium cans for beer bottling industry. off brands such as nestle waters, polar Niagara and other bottling industries using plastic containers is transferred by Tomarah, a Norwegian firm. this is used for primary energy burning boiler capacity given a 450 per ton value based within BTU output and current oil prices. 

    This reuse of current production material reduces landfill waste. Tomrah corporation has developed machines. These machines scan UPC codes recognize the manufacture to charge companies selling in redemption states the nickel to 10 cent value plus a 3. -4 cent value for the independent redemption center receives to handle the material. trucks that bring beverages to stores pick up the material and bring them back to the bottling plants.

    Tomrah utilizes independent trucking firms such as recyclable resources based in Machias Maine to gather the material for trailers owed by Tomrah and drivers move this material to plant headquarters in various states to be burned in precept regulated boilers for energy. Tomrah advertises for independent drivers owners through its website.

    There are public safety benefits as well ,as litter as a whole is reduced alcohol containers are concentrated,

     In a minimum security work projects through state correction systems,  gloves are worn, sanitary conditions.
     Alcohol containers can be recovered, The same beer bottle in the same place by the same person allows Police to easily discern who what vehicle.  With in the context of card all policies adopted by most retail stores, license are scanned . The individual is drinking and driving, This tatic would be supported by the general public in a non partisan to secure roads and highways from needless victims of drunk driving crashes. 

    Further quick fix bongs ( pipes made from aluminum cans) are discarded, the residue from with these containers can be taken to a lab to determine beyond finger  prints what substances are available to the user, meth crack heroin is utilized and inhaled by these pipes and are discarded on highways as well. Cut the can take a sample.

    Other adaptions to the tomarah container reducers is ability to anylize a bar code to color with in the computer program a milk container can be rejected if the bar code states it is a clear container.
     Thus containers used to make Chrystal Meth can be anylized as the company has a video feed from the machine to the company to see what happened to a machine that needs repair, this same system can scan a container and discern the manufacture if the container was used for Meth Manufacturing.

    In conclusion a National Bottle Bill will reduce litter, allow for public safety and give charitable organizations a recourse in bottle drives, off set the costs of highway cleanup state correction programs and generate low stress cost neutral for states participation in redeeming beverage containers.

    1 massachussetes study of redemption policies,
    2 new york studies in expansion of bottle containers to include water containers.
    contacted Sen king's office and congressmen's McCall's office. their busy hurricanes... keep trying if I havoc contact 435 offices in congress and 100 office the senate might as well try in ...will kneel at the feet of the presidents wife if necessary.......
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    The 'bottle bill " was reintroduced by Oregon over 40 years ago.
    Its intention was to reduce highway litter and promote recycling of material used to construct the beverage container.

    In states that have a redemption policy recycling increases by 40% (1)
    Litter on highways decrease by 70% (2) . The intention of the bill in states that have adopted redemption policies have been a huge success.

    Their are many hidden benefits to having a redeemable worth  on beverage containers. 

    Beverage redemption allows 9 new self funded full time jobs provided by the consumption of beverages within a 10,000 population area. by allowing redemption these low stress jobs can be provided to people with disabilities including veterans. These jobs are absolved by a 5 cent per container at retail. those who choose to put their containers into "trash"  reception allows transfer stations to provide off setting costs to material going to land fills.

    a 3-4 cent handling fee is given to redemption facilities to deal with the material, Coca cola picks up soda cans plastics these are remade into new containers. National bottling takes most glass containers, and aluminium containers to recycle to clear green and brown glass beverage containers as well as new aluminium cans for beer bottling industry. off brands such as nestle waters, polar Niagara and other bottling industries using plastic containers is transferred by Tomarah, a Norwegian firm. this is used for primary energy burning boiler capacity given a 450 per ton value based within BTU output and current oil prices. 

    This reuse of current production material reduces landfill waste. Tomrah corporation has developed machines. These machines scan UPC codes recognize the manufacture to charge companies selling in redemption states the nickel to 10 cent value plus a 3. -4 cent value for the independent redemption center receives to handle the material. trucks that bring beverages to stores pick up the material and bring them back to the bottling plants.

    Tomrah utilizes independent trucking firms such as recyclable resources based in Machias Maine to gather the material for trailers owed by Tomrah and drivers move this material to plant headquarters in various states to be burned in precept regulated boilers for energy. Tomrah advertises for independent drivers owners through its website.

    There are public safety benefits as well ,as litter as a whole is reduced alcohol containers are concentrated,

     In a minimum security work projects through state correction systems,  gloves are worn, sanitary conditions.
     Alcohol containers can be recovered, The same beer bottle in the same place by the same person allows Police to easily discern who what vehicle.  With in the context of card all policies adopted by most retail stores, license are scanned . The individual is drinking and driving, This tatic would be supported by the general public in a non partisan to secure roads and highways from needless victims of drunk driving crashes. 

    Further quick fix bongs ( pipes made from aluminum cans) are discarded, the residue from with these containers can be taken to a lab to determine beyond finger  prints what substances are available to the user, meth crack heroin is utilized and inhaled by these pipes and are discarded on highways as well. Cut the can take a sample.

    Other adaptions to the tomarah container reducers is ability to anylize a bar code to color with in the computer program a milk container can be rejected if the bar code states it is a clear container.
     Thus containers used to make Chrystal Meth can be anylized as the company has a video feed from the machine to the company to see what happened to a machine that needs repair, this same system can scan a container and discern the manufacture if the container was used for Meth Manufacturing.

    In conclusion a National Bottle Bill will reduce litter, allow for public safety and give charitable organizations a recourse in bottle drives, off set the costs of highway cleanup state correction programs and generate low stress cost neutral for states participation in redeeming beverage containers.

    1 massachussetes study of redemption policies,
    2 new york studies in expansion of bottle containers to include water containers.
    contacted Sen king's office and congressmen's McCall's office. their busy hurricanes... keep trying if I havoc contact 435 offices in congress and 100 office the senate might as well try in ...will kneel at the feet of the presidents wife if necessary.......
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