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    Our border is under siege.

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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 8:50 AM ET #1

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-border-arrests-in-july-surge-to-highest-level-in-21-years-11628799813

    The Border Patrol made about 200,000 arrests at the southern border in July, marking the busiest month at the border in 21 years and a 12% increase over the previous month, according to new figures released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection on Thursday.

    This on pace to over a million detainees by Nov. 

    Many are unaccompanied minors.

    Nearly 19,000 unaccompanied children crossed the border in July—almost equal to the record set this March. And 76,000 parents and children crossed the border together as families, the second-highest total ever and a significant jump from June.

    The CBP data only includes the number of arrests and doesn’t account for people who made it across the border without being apprehended—typically single adults in search of work who don’t intend to ask for asylum.

    The past six months mark the longest period in recent history that monthly crossings have remained near or above 100,000, an unrelenting pace that has placed a heavy strain on the immigration system and posed one of the largest political challenges for the Biden administration so far.

     

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-border-arrests-in-july-surge-to-highest-level-in-21-years-11628799813

    The Border Patrol made about 200,000 arrests at the southern border in July, marking the busiest month at the border in 21 years and a 12% increase over the previous month, according to new figures released by U.S. Customs and Border Protection on Thursday.

    This on pace to over a million detainees by Nov. 

    Many are unaccompanied minors.

    Nearly 19,000 unaccompanied children crossed the border in July—almost equal to the record set this March. And 76,000 parents and children crossed the border together as families, the second-highest total ever and a significant jump from June.

    The CBP data only includes the number of arrests and doesn’t account for people who made it across the border without being apprehended—typically single adults in search of work who don’t intend to ask for asylum.

    The past six months mark the longest period in recent history that monthly crossings have remained near or above 100,000, an unrelenting pace that has placed a heavy strain on the immigration system and posed one of the largest political challenges for the Biden administration so far.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 9:14 AM ET #2

    Where do you think the 30 million Mexicans came from before Biden ? Rome has burned and Nero has finished his tune!

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    Where do you think the 30 million Mexicans came from before Biden ? Rome has burned and Nero has finished his tune!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:24 PM ET #3

    Deal with causes of illegal immigration. 

    War conflict,  

    Regions affected

    Violence in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras is at levels similar to those in the global conflict areas where Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has worked for decades; the people it has displaced are in need of essential humanitarian care.

    Source. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.ca/war-zones-violence-central-america-similar-what-msf-sees-global-conflict-areas

    Climate change.

    https://reliefweb.int/report/world/natural-disasters-latin-america-and-caribbean-2000-2019

    74 DROUGHTS: - Drought is the disaster which affects the highest number of people in the region.
    Crop yield reductions of 50-75 per cent in central and eastern Guatemala, southern Honduras, eastern El Salvador and parts of Nicaragua.
    - In these countries (known as the Dry Corridor), 8 out of 10 households in the communities most affected by drought resort to crisis coping mechanisms.

     

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    Deal with causes of illegal immigration. 

    War conflict,  

    Regions affected

    Violence in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras is at levels similar to those in the global conflict areas where Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has worked for decades; the people it has displaced are in need of essential humanitarian care.

    Source. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.ca/war-zones-violence-central-america-similar-what-msf-sees-global-conflict-areas

    Climate change.

    https://reliefweb.int/report/world/natural-disasters-latin-america-and-caribbean-2000-2019

    74 DROUGHTS: - Drought is the disaster which affects the highest number of people in the region.
    Crop yield reductions of 50-75 per cent in central and eastern Guatemala, southern Honduras, eastern El Salvador and parts of Nicaragua.
    - In these countries (known as the Dry Corridor), 8 out of 10 households in the communities most affected by drought resort to crisis coping mechanisms.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:26 PM ET #4

    And they are coming here by the millions to farm with security it is unheard of how dare they try to survive....

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    And they are coming here by the millions to farm with security it is unheard of how dare they try to survive....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:37 PM ET #5

    We had a very similar problem during the 1930's climate change turned the mid west into a dust bowl

    California needing migrant workers to pick produce resorted to sending flyers to Ebert farming community in the mid west ok Kansas Nebraska in need of farm workers in California and the great okie invasion began.

    74 DROUGHTS: - Drought is the disaster which affects the highest number of people in the region.
    Crop yield reductions of 50-75 per cent in central and eastern Guatemala, southern Honduras, eastern El Salvador and parts of Nicaragua.
    - In these countries (known as the Dry Corridor), 8 out of 10 households in the communities most affected by drought resort to crisis coping mechanisms.

    These same tactics are used today .

    In farming areas affected by the drought literature is being distributed of the great demand for workers in farm country. Oranges grapes strawberries broccoli all need to be harvested same literature then and now....

     

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    We had a very similar problem during the 1930's climate change turned the mid west into a dust bowl

    California needing migrant workers to pick produce resorted to sending flyers to Ebert farming community in the mid west ok Kansas Nebraska in need of farm workers in California and the great okie invasion began.

    74 DROUGHTS: - Drought is the disaster which affects the highest number of people in the region.
    Crop yield reductions of 50-75 per cent in central and eastern Guatemala, southern Honduras, eastern El Salvador and parts of Nicaragua.
    - In these countries (known as the Dry Corridor), 8 out of 10 households in the communities most affected by drought resort to crisis coping mechanisms.

    These same tactics are used today .

    In farming areas affected by the drought literature is being distributed of the great demand for workers in farm country. Oranges grapes strawberries broccoli all need to be harvested same literature then and now....

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:40 PM ET #6

    This flyer is for Canadian needs  it symbolizes the demamd.

    https://www.ohcow.on.ca/migrant-farm-worker-program.html

    Similarly a study from  a credited university

    Possibly one of the best virtual online degrees given...

    https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/12/02/california-farmworkers-hit-hard-by-covid-19-study-finds/

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    This flyer is for Canadian needs  it symbolizes the demamd.

    https://www.ohcow.on.ca/migrant-farm-worker-program.html

    Similarly a study from  a credited university

    Possibly one of the best virtual online degrees given...

    https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/12/02/california-farmworkers-hit-hard-by-covid-19-study-finds/

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:46 PM ET #7

    We need workers... but we rather hold 1 million humans in custody for no other reason than coming here for work in custody cause grapes these days harvest themselves????confused

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    We need workers... but we rather hold 1 million humans in custody for no other reason than coming here for work in custody cause grapes these days harvest themselves????confused

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 4:54 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Where do you think the 30 million Mexicans came from before Biden ? Rome has burned and Nero has finished his tune!

    This is the examation point of this diatribe I delivered. 

    Comprehensive immigration reform, a policy concept that first gained currency in 2001 in the U.S. political world, would marry increased border enforcement with legalization for unauthorized immigrants and the ability to bring in future workers needed by the U.S. labor market. Debated in the U.S. Senate in 2006, 2007, and 2013, comprehensive immigration reform (CIR) would touch virtually every facet of the U.S. immigration system. The policies and many effects that would flow from CIR legislation are analyzed here.

    Source https://www.migrationpolicy.org/topics/comprehensive-immigration-reform

    Conclusion for nearly a generation 20 years the Senate has debated this point. Bush 2 first to address the need for legal migrant workers in am onion speech then the democrats instructed that the legislation dis not go far enough and died in committees. 

    Next Obama with democrats then democrats and republicans debated legal immigrants for farm and construction positions...

    This died in committees we debates. The traitor Trump stated zero need except his needs for eastern Europe for hospitality seasonal needs.... now we are back to a large number of humans are being detained for no other reason than they want to work and eat....

    So somehow as most in America has roots of immigration . That some how the new immigrants are bad old immigrants good....

    Trump did not come from the founding fathers he is a child of immigrant mother and immigrant grandfather.  

    Now in latest political spin heck some process he of George Washington of Virginia massachussets direct descendants. 

    Can we please stop debating this issue plenty on both sides would like to pass a comprehensive immigration policy for jobs availible here. 

    There should be some legal means that farm owners can recruit labor if not enough labor exists at a seasonal time. 

    And if you work pay fair share and invest in this American experiment our money reads in God we trust. E plubis Unum form many one one. That isn't rhetoric it foundation of America values the great melting pot from all nations we forge together this nation in the sight of god..... it is this simple.

    Did you choose w her you were born from whom you were born what parents religion and family you were cleaned into???? 

    Nobody did. We are born human beings each equal. That not just the citizens of the United States but the People of the United States  bring forward a plan to make the world a better place. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Where do you think the 30 million Mexicans came from before Biden ? Rome has burned and Nero has finished his tune!

    This is the examation point of this diatribe I delivered. 

    Comprehensive immigration reform, a policy concept that first gained currency in 2001 in the U.S. political world, would marry increased border enforcement with legalization for unauthorized immigrants and the ability to bring in future workers needed by the U.S. labor market. Debated in the U.S. Senate in 2006, 2007, and 2013, comprehensive immigration reform (CIR) would touch virtually every facet of the U.S. immigration system. The policies and many effects that would flow from CIR legislation are analyzed here.

    Source https://www.migrationpolicy.org/topics/comprehensive-immigration-reform

    Conclusion for nearly a generation 20 years the Senate has debated this point. Bush 2 first to address the need for legal migrant workers in am onion speech then the democrats instructed that the legislation dis not go far enough and died in committees. 

    Next Obama with democrats then democrats and republicans debated legal immigrants for farm and construction positions...

    This died in committees we debates. The traitor Trump stated zero need except his needs for eastern Europe for hospitality seasonal needs.... now we are back to a large number of humans are being detained for no other reason than they want to work and eat....

    So somehow as most in America has roots of immigration . That some how the new immigrants are bad old immigrants good....

    Trump did not come from the founding fathers he is a child of immigrant mother and immigrant grandfather.  

    Now in latest political spin heck some process he of George Washington of Virginia massachussets direct descendants. 

    Can we please stop debating this issue plenty on both sides would like to pass a comprehensive immigration policy for jobs availible here. 

    There should be some legal means that farm owners can recruit labor if not enough labor exists at a seasonal time. 

    And if you work pay fair share and invest in this American experiment our money reads in God we trust. E plubis Unum form many one one. That isn't rhetoric it foundation of America values the great melting pot from all nations we forge together this nation in the sight of god..... it is this simple.

    Did you choose w her you were born from whom you were born what parents religion and family you were cleaned into???? 

    Nobody did. We are born human beings each equal. That not just the citizens of the United States but the People of the United States  bring forward a plan to make the world a better place. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 5:01 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need workers... but we rather hold 1 million humans in custody for no other reason than coming here for work in custody cause grapes these days harvest themselves????

    Nature1970 is right.  Myth is that illegal immigrants steal jobs from Americans.  Actually, they do jobs that Americans don't want to do such as low wage farming labor.  They help boost US economy as workers, consumers, tax payers and entrepreneurs. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need workers... but we rather hold 1 million humans in custody for no other reason than coming here for work in custody cause grapes these days harvest themselves????

    Nature1970 is right.  Myth is that illegal immigrants steal jobs from Americans.  Actually, they do jobs that Americans don't want to do such as low wage farming labor.  They help boost US economy as workers, consumers, tax payers and entrepreneurs. 

     
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    They do steal some jobs (construction etc) but they do many jobs Americans won’t. The problem, however, is the broken immigration system, which could easily be fixed if Washington wasn’t so dysfunctional. Only in a broken America would we allow for a system that fosters illegal labor, sanctuary cities, idiotic walls etc
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    They do steal some jobs (construction etc) but they do many jobs Americans won’t. The problem, however, is the broken immigration system, which could easily be fixed if Washington wasn’t so dysfunctional. Only in a broken America would we allow for a system that fosters illegal labor, sanctuary cities, idiotic walls etc
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    They do steal some jobs (construction etc) but they do many jobs Americans won’t. The problem, however, is the broken immigration system, which could easily be fixed if Washington wasn’t so dysfunctional. Only in a broken America would we allow for a system that fosters illegal labor, sanctuary cities, idiotic walls etc

    Ok how do you fix this

    it seems the root cause of many problems. .

    This secondary labor market,  is creating suffering.  First the legal employee feels misery in watching a job go to an illegal. 

    The job went to the illegal as a form of control what can an illegal worker say to unsafe or unsanitary conditions. 

    Human traffickers and slavers utilize this fear to subdue compliance.  What is the over sight. Deportation? Is vulgarity now acceptable as we run a black market in labor?

    Now the illegal worker feels suffering. 

    He or she must work harder for less money.

    Again grapes of wrath the farmer 9bly wanted to pay 2 pennies a bushel when the workers struck the wage moved to 5 cents a bushel

     The secret was they paid the 5 cents anyway just spread it out to security black lists , thug tactics instead of paying the worker 5 cents 

    There has yo be some sort of moral reasoning within general population. 

    If it is necessary to survive it can't be determined illegal. It shouldn't cost human dignity to be able to eat drink and live in security 

    The wall was never to be finished just sections 'natural obstructionist features exist to dissuade immigration 

    . Now border security to protect the nation from illegals . And potentially terrorists.  200,000 arrests and detentions in a month? 

    Think about that. 7000 a day arrested for illegal entry.  A million humans incarcerated. 

    In 2016,  As of 2016, 2.3 million people were incarcerated in the United States, at a rate of 698 people per 100,000. Total US incarceration peaked in 2008. Total correctional population (prison, jail, probation, parole) peaked in 2007. In 2008 the US had around 24.7% of the world's 9.8 million prisoners.

    With these new prisoners we hold nearly a third of the world's prisoners and we only make up 5 percent of the world's population.....

    It becoming maddening the thought of the needless human suffering those who are starving and watch crops rot do lack of workers. Those who die on the trail of dust pan am highway from panama to arizona new mexico and texas for lack of water .

    Then seeing the human rights abuses in human trafficking dealing with entire waste of human lives and happiness because we have chasimic orators railing they are less than human.....

     

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    They do steal some jobs (construction etc) but they do many jobs Americans won’t. The problem, however, is the broken immigration system, which could easily be fixed if Washington wasn’t so dysfunctional. Only in a broken America would we allow for a system that fosters illegal labor, sanctuary cities, idiotic walls etc

    Ok how do you fix this

    it seems the root cause of many problems. .

    This secondary labor market,  is creating suffering.  First the legal employee feels misery in watching a job go to an illegal. 

    The job went to the illegal as a form of control what can an illegal worker say to unsafe or unsanitary conditions. 

    Human traffickers and slavers utilize this fear to subdue compliance.  What is the over sight. Deportation? Is vulgarity now acceptable as we run a black market in labor?

    Now the illegal worker feels suffering. 

    He or she must work harder for less money.

    Again grapes of wrath the farmer 9bly wanted to pay 2 pennies a bushel when the workers struck the wage moved to 5 cents a bushel

     The secret was they paid the 5 cents anyway just spread it out to security black lists , thug tactics instead of paying the worker 5 cents 

    There has yo be some sort of moral reasoning within general population. 

    If it is necessary to survive it can't be determined illegal. It shouldn't cost human dignity to be able to eat drink and live in security 

    The wall was never to be finished just sections 'natural obstructionist features exist to dissuade immigration 

    . Now border security to protect the nation from illegals . And potentially terrorists.  200,000 arrests and detentions in a month? 

    Think about that. 7000 a day arrested for illegal entry.  A million humans incarcerated. 

    In 2016,  As of 2016, 2.3 million people were incarcerated in the United States, at a rate of 698 people per 100,000. Total US incarceration peaked in 2008. Total correctional population (prison, jail, probation, parole) peaked in 2007. In 2008 the US had around 24.7% of the world's 9.8 million prisoners.

    With these new prisoners we hold nearly a third of the world's prisoners and we only make up 5 percent of the world's population.....

    It becoming maddening the thought of the needless human suffering those who are starving and watch crops rot do lack of workers. Those who die on the trail of dust pan am highway from panama to arizona new mexico and texas for lack of water .

    Then seeing the human rights abuses in human trafficking dealing with entire waste of human lives and happiness because we have chasimic orators railing they are less than human.....

     

     
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    This can not continue down this road the retaliation for such atrocities will cost our society more and more we lose more and more freedoms and privacy for the need of greater and greater security as more and more humans become angry and the Injustice of the misery we creating. 

    Look at the poor women stripped of their children at the border taken to Irwin detention center Georgia and given forced hysterectomy .

    Their children lost in the foster system. 

    Some will never be found. And then retaliation of humans enduring hardships begin to blame every day Americans for the abject failure in decency of our governments employees dealing with humans ,

    who came to work and did no more than cross a border,  should lose their family , their dignity,  even their own ability to have a child..... for crossing a border and seeking employment????

    This is disgusting

    the policy is  vulgar 

    and the practice needs to end....

    we did not end slavery we just dressed it up and put a new title illegal aliens....

    Now the costs

     Border patrol has a 25 percent greater suicide rate. Domestic violence issues divorce rates.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6534877-Suicide-Summary-20190911-1

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2021-02-14/jenn-budd-border-patrol-critic

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-05-20/ice-irwin-detention-center-georgia-immigrant-women-alleged-abuse

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-22/women-allege-medical-abuse-georgia-immigration-detention

     

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    This can not continue down this road the retaliation for such atrocities will cost our society more and more we lose more and more freedoms and privacy for the need of greater and greater security as more and more humans become angry and the Injustice of the misery we creating. 

    Look at the poor women stripped of their children at the border taken to Irwin detention center Georgia and given forced hysterectomy .

    Their children lost in the foster system. 

    Some will never be found. And then retaliation of humans enduring hardships begin to blame every day Americans for the abject failure in decency of our governments employees dealing with humans ,

    who came to work and did no more than cross a border,  should lose their family , their dignity,  even their own ability to have a child..... for crossing a border and seeking employment????

    This is disgusting

    the policy is  vulgar 

    and the practice needs to end....

    we did not end slavery we just dressed it up and put a new title illegal aliens....

    Now the costs

     Border patrol has a 25 percent greater suicide rate. Domestic violence issues divorce rates.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6534877-Suicide-Summary-20190911-1

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/story/2021-02-14/jenn-budd-border-patrol-critic

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-05-20/ice-irwin-detention-center-georgia-immigrant-women-alleged-abuse

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-22/women-allege-medical-abuse-georgia-immigration-detention

     

     
     
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    nationally, 14,700 complaints were lodged against ICE about sexual or physical abuse from January 2010 to July 2016, Freedom for Immigrants reported, citing data from the Office of Inspector General.

    Just a small fraction of those cases were investigated by the Office of Inspector General.

    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/immigration/2020/05/28/370649/in-federal-suit-mexican-woman-says-she-and-two-others-were-raped-by-houston-immigration-officers-before-deportation/

    Of the 1,224 complaints it received in that time period, the OIG investigated 30, according to the data released to The Intercept. The office also investigated an additional 13 cases over the same time period that do not match the complaints provided to The Intercept, bringing the total number of investigations to 43.

    officials found that three were “substantiated.”

    https://theintercept.com/2018/04/11/immigration-detention-sexual-abuse-ice-dhs/

     

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    nationally, 14,700 complaints were lodged against ICE about sexual or physical abuse from January 2010 to July 2016, Freedom for Immigrants reported, citing data from the Office of Inspector General.

    Just a small fraction of those cases were investigated by the Office of Inspector General.

    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/immigration/2020/05/28/370649/in-federal-suit-mexican-woman-says-she-and-two-others-were-raped-by-houston-immigration-officers-before-deportation/

    Of the 1,224 complaints it received in that time period, the OIG investigated 30, according to the data released to The Intercept. The office also investigated an additional 13 cases over the same time period that do not match the complaints provided to The Intercept, bringing the total number of investigations to 43.

    officials found that three were “substantiated.”

    https://theintercept.com/2018/04/11/immigration-detention-sexual-abuse-ice-dhs/

     

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