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#1
Is anyone out there pro-choice and pro-mandatory vaccine?
Could you please explain your logic.
Pro-choice and pro-mandatory vaccine?
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#4
Just picture Detox in a tee-shirt that says "My body, My choice" while holding up a protest sign that says- "Vaccines should be mandatory"
There would you have the hypocrisy of a Big Pharma rah-rah and their fraud and corruption that he invests in, and the lip service he gives to freedom and liberty in a NUTshell.
Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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#5
Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:
Just picture Detox in a tee-shirt that says "My body, My choice" while holding up a protest sign that says- "Vaccines should be mandatory" There would you have the hypocrisy of a Big Pharma rah-rah and their fraud and corruption that he invests in, and the lip service he gives to freedom and liberty in a NUTshell.
Just picture Detox in a tee-shirt that says "My body, My choice" while holding up a protest sign that says- "Vaccines should be mandatory" There would you have the hypocrisy of a Big Pharma rah-rah and their fraud and corruption that he invests in, and the lip service he gives to freedom and liberty in a NUTshell.
Get off the drugs son
Posted:
#6
Quote Originally Posted by shiek:
Got no real problem w choice up to 16 weeks or vaccine cards. The distinction I see is abortion choice only effects the mom and her child whereas the vaccine decision effects the public at large. We’ve had mandatory vaccines b4
Got no real problem w choice up to 16 weeks or vaccine cards. The distinction I see is abortion choice only effects the mom and her child whereas the vaccine decision effects the public at large. We’ve had mandatory vaccines b4
How does the “vaccine decision” effect the public at large?
If anyone is afraid of Covid they can get the vaccine to protect themselves.
Please explain.
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#7
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Quote Originally Posted by shiek: Got no real problem w choice up to 16 weeks or vaccine cards. The distinction I see is abortion choice only effects the mom and her child whereas the vaccine decision effects the public at large. We’ve had mandatory vaccines b4 How does the “vaccine decision” effect the public at large? If anyone is afraid of Covid they can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Please explain.
Quote Originally Posted by shiek: Got no real problem w choice up to 16 weeks or vaccine cards. The distinction I see is abortion choice only effects the mom and her child whereas the vaccine decision effects the public at large. We’ve had mandatory vaccines b4 How does the “vaccine decision” effect the public at large? If anyone is afraid of Covid they can get the vaccine to protect themselves. Please explain.
Shiek is right. In the past, mandatory vaccinations in schools have successfully eradicated diseases. Vaccines protect both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Vast majority of virus transmissions come from unvaccinated population. Breakthrough infections are rare among the vaccinated. Since no vaccine provides 100% protection, there is still some risk of the vaccinated becoming infected. Public health experts consider unvaccinated people a bigger problem than delta variant. 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.
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#8
Vaccination isn't just about the individual. It's about protecting community and those at risk. Not everyone can be vaccinated. For examples, allergic people, ineligible children, cancer and transplant patients with weak immune systems. The longer coronavirus spreads in population, the greater the risk of mutation that renders vaccines less effective. Besides, vaccination to achieve herd immunity is the best way out of pandemic. Preferable to lockdowns and mask wearing forever.
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#9
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vaccination isn't just about the individual. It's about protecting community and those at risk. Not everyone can be vaccinated. For examples, allergic people, ineligible children, cancer and transplant patients with weak immune systems. The longer coronavirus spreads in population, the greater the risk of mutation that renders vaccines less effective. Besides, vaccination to achieve herd immunity is the best way out of pandemic. Preferable to lockdowns and mask wearing forever.
Vaccination isn't just about the individual. It's about protecting community and those at risk. Not everyone can be vaccinated. For examples, allergic people, ineligible children, cancer and transplant patients with weak immune systems. The longer coronavirus spreads in population, the greater the risk of mutation that renders vaccines less effective. Besides, vaccination to achieve herd immunity is the best way out of pandemic. Preferable to lockdowns and mask wearing forever.
Patients with compromised immune systems may be at an increased risk of getting severe COVID-19. Due to the potential increased risks of COVID-19 in these patients, the CDC suggests that patients proceed with vaccination, because the potential benefit outweighs possible risks at this time.
Ineligible children? Children aren’t at risk.
Allergic people?
Where are you getting this information?
Please share your source.
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#11
@I_Need_A_Detox
In all fairness, has anyone in this forum said that they are actually for mandatory vaccines? Likewise, are any of the more liberal members of the forum actually pro-choice in regards to abortion? You can't just make up a narrative just to take the counter. Give someone the opportunity to say, "Yes, i'm pro-choice while also being pro mandatory vaccine." Of the so-called liberals I have built a rapport with on this site, and there are only a few, midnight is an old school family man. Maybe he is pro-choice in theory but I would bet he believes babies should be born. Dubs, who has been one of the more vocal proponents for vaccines, is not even really liberal. He's a republican, a freaking catholic, and also a family man. Probably not really for abortion. As far as third, I know nothing about him or what he believes. Fubah, Kelly, I have learned a little about them but have no idea of where they stand on abortion nor mandatory vaccines.
I guess what i'm saying is, don't be one of dudes on the internet who says, "You probably believe....X,Y,Z," randomly assigning a stance to someone just so you can argue against it. You're better than that, bro.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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#12
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@I_Need_A_Detox In all fairness, has anyone in this forum said that they are actually for mandatory vaccines? Likewise, are any of the more liberal members of the forum actually pro-choice in regards to abortion? You can't just make up a narrative just to take the counter. Give someone the opportunity to say, "Yes, i'm pro-choice while also being pro mandatory vaccine." Of the so-called liberals I have built a rapport with on this site, and there are only a few, midnight is an old school family man. Maybe he is pro-choice in theory but I would bet he believes babies should be born. Dubs, who has been one of the more vocal proponents for vaccines, is not even really liberal. He's a republican, a freaking catholic, and also a family man. Probably not really for abortion. As far as third, I know nothing about him or what he believes. Fubah, Kelly, I have learned a little about them but have no idea of where they stand on abortion nor mandatory vaccines. I guess what i'm saying is, don't be one of dudes on the internet who says, "You probably believe....X,Y,Z," randomly assigning a stance to someone just so you can argue against it. You're better than that, bro.
@I_Need_A_Detox In all fairness, has anyone in this forum said that they are actually for mandatory vaccines? Likewise, are any of the more liberal members of the forum actually pro-choice in regards to abortion? You can't just make up a narrative just to take the counter. Give someone the opportunity to say, "Yes, i'm pro-choice while also being pro mandatory vaccine." Of the so-called liberals I have built a rapport with on this site, and there are only a few, midnight is an old school family man. Maybe he is pro-choice in theory but I would bet he believes babies should be born. Dubs, who has been one of the more vocal proponents for vaccines, is not even really liberal. He's a republican, a freaking catholic, and also a family man. Probably not really for abortion. As far as third, I know nothing about him or what he believes. Fubah, Kelly, I have learned a little about them but have no idea of where they stand on abortion nor mandatory vaccines. I guess what i'm saying is, don't be one of dudes on the internet who says, "You probably believe....X,Y,Z," randomly assigning a stance to someone just so you can argue against it. You're better than that, bro.
That's exactly what he did.
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#15
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
BREAKING: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio announces first-in-the-nation policy requiring COVID vaccination for indoor activities like restaurants, fitness and entertainment. It will be phased in through August and enforcement officially begins September 13
BREAKING: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio announces first-in-the-nation policy requiring COVID vaccination for indoor activities like restaurants, fitness and entertainment. It will be phased in through August and enforcement officially begins September 13
Que the mass exodus. Again.
CA will be next.
December NY mayor begging people to come back when they realize how much tax revenue they're losing. January NY mayor asking for federal funding.
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#16
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-cuomo-sexually-harassed-multiple-151201000.html
Or maybe it's a distraction to try to hide this....
The nearly five-month investigation, conducted by two outside lawyers who spoke to 179 people, found that the Cuomo administration was a “hostile work environment” and that it was “rife with fear and intimidation.”
“These interviews and pieces of evidence revealed a deeply disturbing yet clear picture: Gov. Cuomo sexually harassed current and former state employees in violation of federal and state laws," James said at a press conference on Tuesday.
On at least one occasion, the investigation found, Cuomo and his senior staff worked to retaliate against a former employee who accused him of wrongdoing. Cuomo was also found to have harassed women outside of government, the investigation found.
James said the investigation wouldn’t have been possible without the “heroic women who came forward.”
Another, Lindsey Boylan, said Cuomo kissed her on the lips after a meeting in his office and “would go out of his way to touch me on my lower back, arms and legs.”
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#17
Agree w 3rd person. It effects the public at large as In order to get the effects of herd immunity u need much higher than 50% vaccine rate. Just as importantly the indication is that Pfizer is only bout 83% against delta and loses its effect over time . Thus, non vaccinated people are certainly subjecting vaccinated people to risk. Again go back to all the vaccines that have been required in the past.
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#19
I’m not sure bout the % but I’ve always wondered why they don’t stress that # and it seems that if things are as bad as they say that # should be a lot higher. I’m not coming down 1 way or the other, I see it as a difficult decision either way u do it. My point is only that we have had mandatory vaccines b4 and to me it’s not just about personal freedom when your decision (assuming u don’t isolate/ distance yourself) may effect others
Posted:
#20
Quote Originally Posted by shiek:
Agree w 3rd person. It effects the public at large as In order to get the effects of herd immunity u need much higher than 50% vaccine rate. Just as importantly the indication is that Pfizer is only bout 83% against delta and loses its effect over time . Thus, non vaccinated people are certainly subjecting vaccinated people to risk. Again go back to all the vaccines that have been required in the past.
Agree w 3rd person. It effects the public at large as In order to get the effects of herd immunity u need much higher than 50% vaccine rate. Just as importantly the indication is that Pfizer is only bout 83% against delta and loses its effect over time . Thus, non vaccinated people are certainly subjecting vaccinated people to risk. Again go back to all the vaccines that have been required in the past.
amazing they have all the % figured out that fast
100% if you get the 3rd "booster" shot, that Pfizer adds to their 33.5 Billion revenue last year
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#21
@shiek
Maybe because if the public was told that people who've fought off covid are less likely to get it a second time and have built up a natural immunity, people wouldn't cave in to the scare tactics? There's no money to be passed around if healthy people build their own immunity from covid after a first infection. Read about natural immunity and then ask yourself why the media doesn't talk about it. Natural immunity mixed with vaccines would boost the numbers.
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#22
Agreed ….. a friend of mine had a bad case of it last yr and has his antibody level checked every 3 months and still quite high. Also, if it’s as transmissible as they say then there has to be a substantial # of people who have had it that don’t know it. Seems that they should incorporate that into testing.
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#23
Quote Originally Posted by shiek:
Agreed ….. a friend of mine had a bad case of it last yr and has his antibody level checked every 3 months and still quite high. Also, if it’s as transmissible as they say then there has to be a substantial # of people who have had it that don’t know it. Seems that they should incorporate that into testing.
Agreed ….. a friend of mine had a bad case of it last yr and has his antibody level checked every 3 months and still quite high. Also, if it’s as transmissible as they say then there has to be a substantial # of people who have had it that don’t know it. Seems that they should incorporate that into testing.
I harken back to what a friend said in February of 2020, which sounded genius in it's simplicity. Three of us were having a beer. Shit was just starting to pop off. My buddy, after getting off the phone with his freaking out wife, says, "I kind of feel like we're gonna find out that either only a handful of people come test positive, only those who appear really sick, and we realize, Oh shit, this thing is deadly. If you get it, you're getting really sick. Or a ton of people test positive and we realize, This shit is everywhere, which means it's technically not that deadly at all." I think there are a ton of people walking around who have had it without realizing it. When my sister had it. She eventually got a little sore and lethargic but initially she didn't feel sick at all. She realized she had it when she sprayed on perfume and realized she couldn't smell it.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Posted:
#24
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-cuomo-sexually-harassed-multiple-151201000.html Or maybe it's a distraction to try to hide this.... The nearly five-month investigation, conducted by two outside lawyers who spoke to 179 people, found that the Cuomo administration was a “hostile work environment” and that it was “rife with fear and intimidation.” “These interviews and pieces of evidence revealed a deeply disturbing yet clear picture: Gov. Cuomo sexually harassed current and former state employees in violation of federal and state laws," James said at a press conference on Tuesday. On at least one occasion, the investigation found, Cuomo and his senior staff worked to retaliate against a former employee who accused him of wrongdoing. Cuomo was also found to have harassed women outside of government, the investigation found. James said the investigation wouldn’t have been possible without the “heroic women who came forward.” Another, Lindsey Boylan, said Cuomo kissed her on the lips after a meeting in his office and “would go out of his way to touch me on my lower back, arms and legs.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-cuomo-sexually-harassed-multiple-151201000.html Or maybe it's a distraction to try to hide this.... The nearly five-month investigation, conducted by two outside lawyers who spoke to 179 people, found that the Cuomo administration was a “hostile work environment” and that it was “rife with fear and intimidation.” “These interviews and pieces of evidence revealed a deeply disturbing yet clear picture: Gov. Cuomo sexually harassed current and former state employees in violation of federal and state laws," James said at a press conference on Tuesday. On at least one occasion, the investigation found, Cuomo and his senior staff worked to retaliate against a former employee who accused him of wrongdoing. Cuomo was also found to have harassed women outside of government, the investigation found. James said the investigation wouldn’t have been possible without the “heroic women who came forward.” Another, Lindsey Boylan, said Cuomo kissed her on the lips after a meeting in his office and “would go out of his way to touch me on my lower back, arms and legs.”
Killing grannies and grabbing fannies ...This scumbag is finally going to suffer some consequences for his unfathomable behavior ...
A smarter man would have stepped down when the sexual assault stories broke months ago ...
AG James is going to fry this turd
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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#25
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32076622/buffalo-bills-wrs-cole-beasley-gabriel-davis-quarantine-being-considered-close-contacts
BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Buffalo Bills wide receivers Cole Beasley and Gabriel Davis will miss the next five days of practice after being deemed close contacts of a team trainer who tested positive for COVID-19, a league source confirmed Tuesday. Defensive tackle Star Lotulelei is also in quarantine, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
All three tested negative for the virus Tuesday morning but must miss practice anyway, per the NFL's COVID-19 policy. The trainer is fully vaccinated, a source told Schefter.
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