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    Remarkable speech delivered by George Bush.

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2021 - 11:56 AM ET #1

    Yesterday. 

    A Republican from a time when they were at least coherent. 

    George Bush speech

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    A Republican from a time when they were at least coherent. 

    George Bush speech

     
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    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 11:13 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yesterday. 

    A Republican from a time when they were at least coherent. 

    George Bush speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yesterday. 

    A Republican from a time when they were at least coherent. 

    George Bush speech

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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 12:28 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    By Chris Cillizza

    " George W. Bush gave the speech at the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, site
    where Flight 93 was brought down -- thanks to the heroics of the passengers
    who revolted against their hijackers.

    Here's the key bit :
    "In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud
    to lead an amazing, resilient, united people. When it comes to the
    unity of America, those days seem distant from our own.
    A malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every
    disagreement into an argument, and every argument into a clash
    of cultures. So much of our politics has become
    a naked appeal to anger, fear and resentment.
    That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together."

    Bush didn't say Trump's name there.
    He didn't have to.
    If you have been alive and living on Planet Earth for the last 5 or so years,
    you know exactly who Bush is talking about with those words. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    By Chris Cillizza

    " George W. Bush gave the speech at the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, site
    where Flight 93 was brought down -- thanks to the heroics of the passengers
    who revolted against their hijackers.

    Here's the key bit :
    "In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud
    to lead an amazing, resilient, united people. When it comes to the
    unity of America, those days seem distant from our own.
    A malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every
    disagreement into an argument, and every argument into a clash
    of cultures. So much of our politics has become
    a naked appeal to anger, fear and resentment.
    That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together."

    Bush didn't say Trump's name there.
    He didn't have to.
    If you have been alive and living on Planet Earth for the last 5 or so years,
    you know exactly who Bush is talking about with those words. "

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 3:56 PM ET #5

    The traitor was not a Republican he was a Democrat in the days g is buddy Epstein was trafficking underage children to pedophile across the globe. 

    He is a fucking moron -rex tillerson

     

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    The traitor was not a Republican he was a Democrat in the days g is buddy Epstein was trafficking underage children to pedophile across the globe. 

    He is a fucking moron -rex tillerson

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 5:02 PM ET #6

    And we r Morons for electing him, Moscow Mitch and the do nothing Congress, and the left wing nuts who r running many of r cities in the ground
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    And we r Morons for electing him, Moscow Mitch and the do nothing Congress, and the left wing nuts who r running many of r cities in the ground
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2021 - 5:04 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

     

    By Chris Cillizza

    " George W. Bush gave the speech at the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, site
    where Flight 93 was brought down -- thanks to the heroics of the passengers
    who revolted against their hijackers.

    Here's the key bit :
    "In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud
    to lead an amazing, resilient, united people. When it comes to the
    unity of America, those days seem distant from our own.
    A malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every
    disagreement into an argument, and every argument into a clash
    of cultures. So much of our politics has become
    a naked appeal to anger, fear and resentment.
    That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together."

    Bush didn't say Trump's name there.
    He didn't have to.
    If you have been alive and living on Planet Earth for the last 5 or so years,
    you know exactly who Bush is talking about with those words. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

     

    By Chris Cillizza

    " George W. Bush gave the speech at the Shanksville, Pennsylvania, site
    where Flight 93 was brought down -- thanks to the heroics of the passengers
    who revolted against their hijackers.

    Here's the key bit :
    "In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud
    to lead an amazing, resilient, united people. When it comes to the
    unity of America, those days seem distant from our own.
    A malign force seems at work in our common life that turns every
    disagreement into an argument, and every argument into a clash
    of cultures. So much of our politics has become
    a naked appeal to anger, fear and resentment.
    That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together."

    Bush didn't say Trump's name there.
    He didn't have to.
    If you have been alive and living on Planet Earth for the last 5 or so years,
    you know exactly who Bush is talking about with those words. "

    "

    bush singles out donald chump

     
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    Bush and his family are some of the worst, his dad was the worst in my opinion because of his CIA connection and his insider military buddy group, so it is easy for a guy like Bush II to come out and make comments after the fact but really he did nothing to stop the Saudis because he and his family made too much money from them and were obligated.

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    Bush and his family are some of the worst, his dad was the worst in my opinion because of his CIA connection and his insider military buddy group, so it is easy for a guy like Bush II to come out and make comments after the fact but really he did nothing to stop the Saudis because he and his family made too much money from them and were obligated.

     
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    So serving your country in a time of need, and the entity happens to be the CIA, makes u the “worst” …pretty harsh
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    So serving your country in a time of need, and the entity happens to be the CIA, makes u the “worst” …pretty harsh
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2021 - 8:17 AM ET #10

    The CNN Democrats love George Bush now 

     

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    The CNN Democrats love George Bush now 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    How many deaths have resulted from domestic terrorism since 2001? 

    This is from the washington post — 

    Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths.

    Notice how they include “plots” in the total for the “far right” but only incidents in the total for the far left. 



    The Floyd protests led to 25 deaths, 14,000 arrests and $2 billion in insured damages. Was this included in the numbers for the far left? Why not? 

    To put these numbers in perspective, 461 people were shot in July 2021 in Chicago. 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    How many deaths have resulted from domestic terrorism since 2001? 

    This is from the washington post — 

    Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths.

    Notice how they include “plots” in the total for the “far right” but only incidents in the total for the far left. 



    The Floyd protests led to 25 deaths, 14,000 arrests and $2 billion in insured damages. Was this included in the numbers for the far left? Why not? 

    To put these numbers in perspective, 461 people were shot in July 2021 in Chicago. 

     

     

     
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    This is from NYT 

    “The past several weeks have seen an outbreak of anti-Semitic threats and violence across the United States, stoking fear among person in small towns and major cities. During the two weeks of clashes in Israel and Gaza this month, the Anti-Defamation League collected 222 reports of anti-Semitic harassment, vandalism and violence in the United States, compared with 127 over the previous two weeks.” 

    “Many of the most recent incidents have come from perpetrators expressing support for the Palestinian cause and criticism of Israel’s right-wing government.”

    Who got credit for these incidents? Why were they not assigned to the far left? 

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    This is from NYT 

    “The past several weeks have seen an outbreak of anti-Semitic threats and violence across the United States, stoking fear among person in small towns and major cities. During the two weeks of clashes in Israel and Gaza this month, the Anti-Defamation League collected 222 reports of anti-Semitic harassment, vandalism and violence in the United States, compared with 127 over the previous two weeks.” 

    “Many of the most recent incidents have come from perpetrators expressing support for the Palestinian cause and criticism of Israel’s right-wing government.”

    Who got credit for these incidents? Why were they not assigned to the far left? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The Floyd protests led to 25 deaths, 14,000 arrests and $2 billion in insured damages. Was this included in the numbers for the far left? Why not? 

     State department keeps a list of terrorists and Black lives matter isn't on it.  Nor is BLM designated as terrorists in global terrorism database by University of Maryland.  BLM civil rights movement supports justice and peace but opposes police violence against black people.  93% of BLM protests have been peaceful according to study of 7750 protests in 50 states at Princeton university.  However FBI calls capital attack domestic terrorism.

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    The Floyd protests led to 25 deaths, 14,000 arrests and $2 billion in insured damages. Was this included in the numbers for the far left? Why not? 

     State department keeps a list of terrorists and Black lives matter isn't on it.  Nor is BLM designated as terrorists in global terrorism database by University of Maryland.  BLM civil rights movement supports justice and peace but opposes police violence against black people.  93% of BLM protests have been peaceful according to study of 7750 protests in 50 states at Princeton university.  However FBI calls capital attack domestic terrorism.

     
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    Using your own numbers, 543 BLM protests were not peaceful. 

    There are 92 days in a summer. 

    That is roughly 5.9 protests that were not peaceful, everyday, for an entire summer. 

    Can you name a single terrorist organization that has caused more damage in the US than BLM since the organization was founded in 2013? 

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    Using your own numbers, 543 BLM protests were not peaceful. 

    There are 92 days in a summer. 

    That is roughly 5.9 protests that were not peaceful, everyday, for an entire summer. 

    Can you name a single terrorist organization that has caused more damage in the US than BLM since the organization was founded in 2013? 

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    Al-Qaeda supports justice and peace as well. 

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    Al-Qaeda supports justice and peace as well. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Bush and his family are some of the worst, his dad was the worst in my opinion because of his CIA connection and his insider military buddy group, so it is easy for a guy like Bush II to come out and make comments after the fact but really he did nothing to stop the Saudis because he and his family made too much money from them and were obligated.

    Your on to a hunch.

    But explored,

    Bin Laden family is yeminies princes.

    Not necessarily Saudi however as all blue bloods there blood married into Saudi Arabian dynasty, not much different than Europe the bin Laden's threw in some horses and camels to have the monarchy line marry a 5th bride the bin laden....

    Why yeminies interests.  Refueling depot.  

    After the Suez canal older ships non nuclear need fuel. The port authority of Yemen allows USA to gas up the fleet.  

    This is not a point of debate just the known givens.  When Clinton left usama for dead in Afghanistan they retaliated by blowing a whole in the uss Cole.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Bush and his family are some of the worst, his dad was the worst in my opinion because of his CIA connection and his insider military buddy group, so it is easy for a guy like Bush II to come out and make comments after the fact but really he did nothing to stop the Saudis because he and his family made too much money from them and were obligated.

    Your on to a hunch.

    But explored,

    Bin Laden family is yeminies princes.

    Not necessarily Saudi however as all blue bloods there blood married into Saudi Arabian dynasty, not much different than Europe the bin Laden's threw in some horses and camels to have the monarchy line marry a 5th bride the bin laden....

    Why yeminies interests.  Refueling depot.  

    After the Suez canal older ships non nuclear need fuel. The port authority of Yemen allows USA to gas up the fleet.  

    This is not a point of debate just the known givens.  When Clinton left usama for dead in Afghanistan they retaliated by blowing a whole in the uss Cole.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    Did he really though???  Seriously, he specifically said Capital Riot 1/6 ??  

    Comparing 9/11 roots to "domestic terrorism" does not read to me "Capital riots".  

    But yes, I saw that "headline" streamed all across the media as well.  Could he be talking about ANTIFA?  What about the Aryan Nation?  Timothy McVeigh?  

    You get my point, but move along with your made up narrative....by the way BOTH the LEFT & the RIGHT are running with this saying he mentioned the Capital Riots.... NEVER ONCE DID HE SAY THAT.... 

    Per Washington Post....  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/11/george-w-bush-compares-violent-extremists-home-911-terrorists-20th-anniversary-speech/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Bush compares 9/11 attack to capital riot as acts of terrorism.  He says it is our continuing duty to confront them.  After 9/11, domestic terrorism has been a greater threat than foreign terrorism according to FBI and department of homeland security.

    Did he really though???  Seriously, he specifically said Capital Riot 1/6 ??  

    Comparing 9/11 roots to "domestic terrorism" does not read to me "Capital riots".  

    But yes, I saw that "headline" streamed all across the media as well.  Could he be talking about ANTIFA?  What about the Aryan Nation?  Timothy McVeigh?  

    You get my point, but move along with your made up narrative....by the way BOTH the LEFT & the RIGHT are running with this saying he mentioned the Capital Riots.... NEVER ONCE DID HE SAY THAT.... 

    Per Washington Post....  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/11/george-w-bush-compares-violent-extremists-home-911-terrorists-20th-anniversary-speech/

     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/11/george-w-bush-compares-violent-extremists-home-911-terrorists-20th-anniversary-speech/

     

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/11/george-w-bush-compares-violent-extremists-home-911-terrorists-20th-anniversary-speech/

     

     
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    On the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that changed his presidency, former president George W. Bush on Saturday warned there is growing evidence that domestic terrorism could pose as much of a threat to the United States as terrorism originating from abroad, and he urged Americans to confront “violence that gathers within.”

    Without naming it, Bush seemed to condemn the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, when a pro-Trump mob overran the complex in a violent siege that resulted in the deaths of five people. Bush compared those “violent extremists at home” to the terrorists who had hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, and crashed them in New York City, Arlington, and Shanksville, Pa., killing nearly 3,000 people.

    “There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home,” Bush said in a speech at the Flight 93 National Memorial in Shanksville. “But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols — they are children of the same foul spirit, and it is our continuing duty to confront them.”

     

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    On the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that changed his presidency, former president George W. Bush on Saturday warned there is growing evidence that domestic terrorism could pose as much of a threat to the United States as terrorism originating from abroad, and he urged Americans to confront “violence that gathers within.”

    Without naming it, Bush seemed to condemn the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, when a pro-Trump mob overran the complex in a violent siege that resulted in the deaths of five people. Bush compared those “violent extremists at home” to the terrorists who had hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, and crashed them in New York City, Arlington, and Shanksville, Pa., killing nearly 3,000 people.

    “There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home,” Bush said in a speech at the Flight 93 National Memorial in Shanksville. “But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols — they are children of the same foul spirit, and it is our continuing duty to confront them.”

     

     
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    .....you sheep will believe anything....can't read, no critical thinking, any and all logic just toss in the trash.  

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    .....you sheep will believe anything....can't read, no critical thinking, any and all logic just toss in the trash.  

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2021 - 5:14 PM ET #21

    Stop being in the damn pinball machine.

    And observe action reaction sequences. 

    Bush in all his short callings as a man on earth was the president. Same as Trump. 

    However he never set a play in motion to hang his vice president and destroy a certified ballot box. 

    This is an act of treason 4 hours after the play was initiated and failure was inevitable  the ballots would be read he states my special people go home same as Lee did at Antioch. 

    Then he threw the lot under the bus.

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    Bush led a nation through a time of great difficulty.... he was a drunk now recovered and I state he is a good man. 

    Trump is a traitor to the oath of presidency 

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    Stop being in the damn pinball machine.

    And observe action reaction sequences. 

    Bush in all his short callings as a man on earth was the president. Same as Trump. 

    However he never set a play in motion to hang his vice president and destroy a certified ballot box. 

    This is an act of treason 4 hours after the play was initiated and failure was inevitable  the ballots would be read he states my special people go home same as Lee did at Antioch. 

    Then he threw the lot under the bus.

    ...

    Bush led a nation through a time of great difficulty.... he was a drunk now recovered and I state he is a good man. 

    Trump is a traitor to the oath of presidency 

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