The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.
Something to do with democracy rather than dictatorship.
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The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.
Something to do with democracy rather than dictatorship.
The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson. Something to do with democracy rather than dictatorship.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson. Something to do with democracy rather than dictatorship.
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
Precisely! Tribal politics.
To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
Precisely! Tribal politics.
To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position. Precisely! Tribal politics. To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
Identity politics you say??? Blind partisan narrative swallowing???
Please tell us more, I don't see any evidence of this anywhere throughout this sub or posting history
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position. Precisely! Tribal politics. To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
Identity politics you say??? Blind partisan narrative swallowing???
Please tell us more, I don't see any evidence of this anywhere throughout this sub or posting history
Do we have a "rebuttal" after every State of the Union speech? I don't know when this first took place but it seems to me that if we are truly the "United Sates" why is a rebuttal needed? Instead of a rebuttal, why not a speech of concurrence demonstrating the support of our president & goals of the nation? I believe that would send a better message to us all.
intresting thought in time of crisis americans tend to b more conciliatory and work together but the other 99% of the time they each go to their respective corners rather than work together for the common good
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Do we have a "rebuttal" after every State of the Union speech? I don't know when this first took place but it seems to me that if we are truly the "United Sates" why is a rebuttal needed? Instead of a rebuttal, why not a speech of concurrence demonstrating the support of our president & goals of the nation? I believe that would send a better message to us all.
intresting thought in time of crisis americans tend to b more conciliatory and work together but the other 99% of the time they each go to their respective corners rather than work together for the common good
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
very unfortunate the country has devolved over the past several decades into this
the division is holding us back in our rivalry with the likes of china
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
very unfortunate the country has devolved over the past several decades into this
the division is holding us back in our rivalry with the likes of china
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position. Precisely! Tribal politics. To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
true the democrats do the same address rebuttal when a neo-fascist is in the white house
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position. Precisely! Tribal politics. To be fair though, it is the same for each presidential address, Dem or not
true the democrats do the same address rebuttal when a neo-fascist is in the white house
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
Well, how about instead of civilized rebuttal just stand behind the President and tear up his speech for all the world to see.
Then complain of tribal politics and division.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN Thanks for that info. It seems really silly since the rebuttal is written before the State of the Union is even given. It's like whatever the current president says doesn't matter because I have to take an opposite position.
Well, how about instead of civilized rebuttal just stand behind the President and tear up his speech for all the world to see.
How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor?
None of these childish acts are stopping Joe.
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@UNIMAN
How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor?
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
California now leads the nation this year in mass shooting murders. 31 dead, all by pistols.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
California now leads the nation this year in mass shooting murders. 31 dead, all by pistols.
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play...
Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa.
TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi.
Intelligent people do understand that much....
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW!
I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play...
Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa.
TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! California now leads the nation this year in mass shooting murders. 31 dead, all by pistols.
Strange how the three States with the most deaths by firearms; Texas, California & Florida (in that order)....Are also the three most populous States....
Funny how those statistics work out huh....
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! California now leads the nation this year in mass shooting murders. 31 dead, all by pistols.
Strange how the three States with the most deaths by firearms; Texas, California & Florida (in that order)....Are also the three most populous States....
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play... Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa. TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi. Intelligent people do understand that much....
i remember that
was at the same time trump was downplaying the severity of covid19
the childish immature "handshake snub ", followed by the "right back at ya rip-up-the-garbage-speech-of the-leader-of-the-chump-crime-family "
we didnt know at the time that chump would b thrown out of the whitehouse by the american public then he would incite a violent insurrection and get impeached a second time and refuse the peaceful transfer of power
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play... Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa. TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi. Intelligent people do understand that much....
i remember that
was at the same time trump was downplaying the severity of covid19
the childish immature "handshake snub ", followed by the "right back at ya rip-up-the-garbage-speech-of the-leader-of-the-chump-crime-family "
we didnt know at the time that chump would b thrown out of the whitehouse by the american public then he would incite a violent insurrection and get impeached a second time and refuse the peaceful transfer of power
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play... Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa. TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi. Intelligent people do understand that much....
i remember that was at the same time trump was downplaying the severity of covid19 the childish immature "handshake snub ", followed by the "right back at ya rip-up-the-garbage-speech-of the-leader-of-the-chump-crime-family " we didnt know at the time that chump would b thrown out of the whitehouse by the american public then he would incite a violent insurrection and get impeached a second time and refuse the peaceful transfer of power
Funny some people only seem to remember one part of that event
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @UNIMAN How about MTG calling Joe a liar & the idiot from Texas interrupting the president? Aer you good with that? How about Andy Biggs wearing sunglasses on the floor? None of these childish acts are stopping Joe. BAN ASSALT WEAPONS NOW! I remember when Pelosi tore up the speech of twice-impeached fascist leader of the trump crime family.....it was shortly AFTER the egotistical fraud had refused to shake her hand prior to the speech when she made the good will gesture first to offer a handshake.... Personally, I thought she should have lit his speech on fire........tit for tat is fair play... Works both ways. Yes, if dems do it then republicans have every right to respond in kind .....and vice-versa. TRUMP started that @#$% in the chamber that night. Not Pelosi. Intelligent people do understand that much....
i remember that was at the same time trump was downplaying the severity of covid19 the childish immature "handshake snub ", followed by the "right back at ya rip-up-the-garbage-speech-of the-leader-of-the-chump-crime-family " we didnt know at the time that chump would b thrown out of the whitehouse by the american public then he would incite a violent insurrection and get impeached a second time and refuse the peaceful transfer of power
Funny some people only seem to remember one part of that event
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