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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 4:03 AM ET #1

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    That's a great track record for liberals and certainly helped the country in general.

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    That's a great track record for liberals and certainly helped the country in general.

     
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    I wonder if they will win WWW3 that they are forcing upon their people?

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    I wonder if they will win WWW3 that they are forcing upon their people?

     
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    I didnt realize in the past conservatives were democrats.

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    I didnt realize in the past conservatives were democrats.

     
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    A quote from darkhorse12 showing the 1956 Republican Platform. Post #15

     https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/whats-better-103698661

    Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;

    Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;

    Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;

    Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;

    Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;

    Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment.
     Continue  far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs — expansion of social security — broadened coverage in unemployment insurance — improved housing — and better health protection for all our people. Continue to seek extension and perfection of a sound social security system.

    The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively.

    supports an immigration policy which is in keeping with the traditions of America in providing a haven for oppressed peoples, and which is based on equality of treatment, freedom from implications of discrimination between racial, nationality and religious groups, and flexible enough to conform to changing needs and conditions.

    Guess Republicans were liberals back then.

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    A quote from darkhorse12 showing the 1956 Republican Platform. Post #15

     https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/whats-better-103698661

    Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;

    Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;

    Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;

    Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;

    Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;

    Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment.
     Continue  far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs — expansion of social security — broadened coverage in unemployment insurance — improved housing — and better health protection for all our people. Continue to seek extension and perfection of a sound social security system.

    The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively.

    supports an immigration policy which is in keeping with the traditions of America in providing a haven for oppressed peoples, and which is based on equality of treatment, freedom from implications of discrimination between racial, nationality and religious groups, and flexible enough to conform to changing needs and conditions.

    Guess Republicans were liberals back then.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2023 - 4:05 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    A quote from darkhorse12 showing the 1956 Republican Platform. Post #15  https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/whats-better-103698661 Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers; Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits; Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex; Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment. Continue  far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs — expansion of social security — broadened coverage in unemployment insurance — improved housing — and better health protection for all our people. Continue to seek extension and perfection of a sound social security system. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively. supports an immigration policy which is in keeping with the traditions of America in providing a haven for oppressed peoples, and which is based on equality of treatment, freedom from implications of discrimination between racial, nationality and religious groups, and flexible enough to conform to changing needs and conditions. Guess Republicans were liberals back then.

     

    Yes, there used to be lots of liberal Republicans, including the party's founding father Abraham Lincoln (AL) who certainly advanced civil rights.  AL signed a law setting aside the Mariposa Grove and Yosemite Valley as protected lands in 1864.  Teddy Roosevelt (TR) busted more trusts than Clinton, Obama and Biden combined.  As president, Roosevelt created five national parks, 18 national monuments, 51 bird sanctuaries, began the National Wildlife Refuge system and set aside more than 100 million acres for national forests.

    Senator Edward Brooke (MA) was a liberal and the first GOP Senator to call for Nixon's resignation.  Howard Dean, HRC, Leon Panetta and John Lindsay were liberal enough to leave the GOP and become Democrats.

    Don't forget the LONG list of 99 racist Democrats that signed the Southen Manifesto - only 2 Republicans did.  Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, David Duke and Tom Metzger were all at one time Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    A quote from darkhorse12 showing the 1956 Republican Platform. Post #15  https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/whats-better-103698661 Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers; Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits; Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex; Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment. Continue  far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs — expansion of social security — broadened coverage in unemployment insurance — improved housing — and better health protection for all our people. Continue to seek extension and perfection of a sound social security system. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively. supports an immigration policy which is in keeping with the traditions of America in providing a haven for oppressed peoples, and which is based on equality of treatment, freedom from implications of discrimination between racial, nationality and religious groups, and flexible enough to conform to changing needs and conditions. Guess Republicans were liberals back then.

     

    Yes, there used to be lots of liberal Republicans, including the party's founding father Abraham Lincoln (AL) who certainly advanced civil rights.  AL signed a law setting aside the Mariposa Grove and Yosemite Valley as protected lands in 1864.  Teddy Roosevelt (TR) busted more trusts than Clinton, Obama and Biden combined.  As president, Roosevelt created five national parks, 18 national monuments, 51 bird sanctuaries, began the National Wildlife Refuge system and set aside more than 100 million acres for national forests.

    Senator Edward Brooke (MA) was a liberal and the first GOP Senator to call for Nixon's resignation.  Howard Dean, HRC, Leon Panetta and John Lindsay were liberal enough to leave the GOP and become Democrats.

    Don't forget the LONG list of 99 racist Democrats that signed the Southen Manifesto - only 2 Republicans did.  Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, David Duke and Tom Metzger were all at one time Democrats.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2023 - 4:20 AM ET #6

    Of course the most important fact of Thurmond, Helms, Duke and Metzger was not their party label; it was their vile bigotry.  They were all extreme conservative racists who repeatedly vilified liberals in public speech clips that personally I saw on TV news and talk shows.

    It didn't matter if they were Republicans, Democrats or Dixiecrats; they were the same monsters no matter what political party they stained.

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    Of course the most important fact of Thurmond, Helms, Duke and Metzger was not their party label; it was their vile bigotry.  They were all extreme conservative racists who repeatedly vilified liberals in public speech clips that personally I saw on TV news and talk shows.

    It didn't matter if they were Republicans, Democrats or Dixiecrats; they were the same monsters no matter what political party they stained.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2023 - 4:23 AM ET #7

    Confederate General/slave trader Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat.  He founded the Ku Klux Klan.

    He was not a liberal.

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    Confederate General/slave trader Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Democrat.  He founded the Ku Klux Klan.

    He was not a liberal.

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