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    Trump And The Media

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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 12:12 PM ET #1

    Most of my views are conservative.......But I have to admit Trump fvcked up that press conference in Russia earler this week.......But the story is fading away fast and I have to wonder why.  He basically said in Helsinki that He believed Putin over his own intelligence team regarding russian interference.......Yet this story is almost dead.

    I think this has to do with the cry wolf theory..........The media and the left are bashing Trump daily for one thing or another non-stop..........A lot of people dont trust the media completely and know about fake news.........When people hear Trump and Russia they they think "big deal" and start flipping through the channels because its old......They know Trump has not been impeached or is not in jail so it cant be that bad.

    If the media's coverage with Trump was more balanced then maybe when he really does do or say something that he should be held accountable for like he did Monday in Russia then people would be more outraged.......But instead this was just another day of Trump bashing which will blow over and he gets away of saying whatever he wants - whenever he wants while his approval ratings are ticking upward.

    It appears that the media's hatred for Trump may be working against them.........

     

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    Most of my views are conservative.......But I have to admit Trump fvcked up that press conference in Russia earler this week.......But the story is fading away fast and I have to wonder why.  He basically said in Helsinki that He believed Putin over his own intelligence team regarding russian interference.......Yet this story is almost dead.

    I think this has to do with the cry wolf theory..........The media and the left are bashing Trump daily for one thing or another non-stop..........A lot of people dont trust the media completely and know about fake news.........When people hear Trump and Russia they they think "big deal" and start flipping through the channels because its old......They know Trump has not been impeached or is not in jail so it cant be that bad.

    If the media's coverage with Trump was more balanced then maybe when he really does do or say something that he should be held accountable for like he did Monday in Russia then people would be more outraged.......But instead this was just another day of Trump bashing which will blow over and he gets away of saying whatever he wants - whenever he wants while his approval ratings are ticking upward.

    It appears that the media's hatred for Trump may be working against them.........

     

    What do you guys think?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 12:51 PM ET #2

    Does CNN have a pussi? Because Trump is grabbing theirs on a daily basis

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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 1:02 PM ET #3

    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia. 
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    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 2:03 PM ET #4

    The Democrat party and the media are suffering from Russophobia....... ..their Putinmania and anti-Russian attitude in making them an enemy ...is the real threat to America..

    President Trump has got it right..the enemy of the people is the fake news media...that's why today he vowed to hold a second meeting with Putin,,,so they (Trump/Putin ) can start to implement some of the things they discussed ,in their 1st summit..

    ‘Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war.’~  Winston Churchill
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    The Democrat party and the media are suffering from Russophobia....... ..their Putinmania and anti-Russian attitude in making them an enemy ...is the real threat to America..

    President Trump has got it right..the enemy of the people is the fake news media...that's why today he vowed to hold a second meeting with Putin,,,so they (Trump/Putin ) can start to implement some of the things they discussed ,in their 1st summit..

    ‘Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war.’~  Winston Churchill
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 2:11 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia.

    Yet another thoughtless remark on this forum.  Nobody is worried about Russian military taking over American homes and streets.  What's worrisome is Russia's tendency to use or threaten to use military force to achieve it's foreign policy goals especially when it comes to enforcing/coercing countries near its border or sphere of influence.  In addition they're investing heavily into social media networks and information warfare which have been successful at destabilizing the political culture of our western allies.  Not to mention their successful infiltration of systems/emails of our federal government enabling them to disrupt our 2016 elections.  This is not a republican vs democrat ... liberal vs conservative issue ... this is a serious problem for the United States and other western countries that don't share similar values and beliefs with the Kremlin.  

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    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia.

    Yet another thoughtless remark on this forum.  Nobody is worried about Russian military taking over American homes and streets.  What's worrisome is Russia's tendency to use or threaten to use military force to achieve it's foreign policy goals especially when it comes to enforcing/coercing countries near its border or sphere of influence.  In addition they're investing heavily into social media networks and information warfare which have been successful at destabilizing the political culture of our western allies.  Not to mention their successful infiltration of systems/emails of our federal government enabling them to disrupt our 2016 elections.  This is not a republican vs democrat ... liberal vs conservative issue ... this is a serious problem for the United States and other western countries that don't share similar values and beliefs with the Kremlin.  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 2:13 PM ET #6

    You have no idea what they discussed & unless we hear from the translator we will never know. Piggy certainly can't be believed.

     

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    You have no idea what they discussed & unless we hear from the translator we will never know. Piggy certainly can't be believed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 2:19 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You have no idea what they discussed & unless we hear from the translator we will never know. Piggy certainly can't be believed.

    since when in the history of global politics has a common man like yourself ever been privy or has entitlement to private conversations between heads of states? time to get over your "need to know everything" CNN mentality...at least they are required to fill up 24hrs worth of airtime...what's your excuse here on covers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You have no idea what they discussed & unless we hear from the translator we will never know. Piggy certainly can't be believed.

    since when in the history of global politics has a common man like yourself ever been privy or has entitlement to private conversations between heads of states? time to get over your "need to know everything" CNN mentality...at least they are required to fill up 24hrs worth of airtime...what's your excuse here on covers?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 2:32 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia. 


    Is the government knocking on doors and asking for people's guns?  That's what the Right acts like whenever a shooting happens or someone mentions gun control.  
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    Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia. 


    Is the government knocking on doors and asking for people's guns?  That's what the Right acts like whenever a shooting happens or someone mentions gun control.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 3:14 PM ET #9

    Future historians may see Trump era as shameful period in US history.  Traditional institutions of truth such as science, schools and mainstream media are attacked by governments.  US constitution ensures freedom of the press to hold government accountable and to educate the public in system of checks and balances..

    So mainstream media is just continuing to do its job as it is supposed to.  Every president has been criticized by the press before.  Studies show negative political campaigning works in the long term.  Since voters are volatile and elections are often close, changes may happen gradually or suddenly. 
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    Future historians may see Trump era as shameful period in US history.  Traditional institutions of truth such as science, schools and mainstream media are attacked by governments.  US constitution ensures freedom of the press to hold government accountable and to educate the public in system of checks and balances..

    So mainstream media is just continuing to do its job as it is supposed to.  Every president has been criticized by the press before.  Studies show negative political campaigning works in the long term.  Since voters are volatile and elections are often close, changes may happen gradually or suddenly. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 5:15 PM ET #10

     President Trump is doubling down on holding a second meeting with Putin,,The word is President Trump has asked his national security adviser John Bolton to invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to Washington for a second summit...
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     President Trump is doubling down on holding a second meeting with Putin,,The word is President Trump has asked his national security adviser John Bolton to invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to Washington for a second summit...
     
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    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......
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    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2018 - 6:50 PM ET #12

    tough like Joeys "cut it out"??? an_nailbiter

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    Well trump is I. Good company Elon Musk Andy the media have been at war since Tesla built its first electric car the media and prince William have been at war since they drive his mum Diana into a wall and watched her bleed out. The media is 273 execs whom live In Manhattan and they been taking speech out of contexts since Walter Mondale was anchored in cbs. The media is sensualist who pray on the fears of their viewership. So they can sell advertising at a premium level.... boo boo the media is fake grow up and enjoy the show or just turn the channel @ op

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    Well trump is I. Good company Elon Musk Andy the media have been at war since Tesla built its first electric car the media and prince William have been at war since they drive his mum Diana into a wall and watched her bleed out. The media is 273 execs whom live In Manhattan and they been taking speech out of contexts since Walter Mondale was anchored in cbs. The media is sensualist who pray on the fears of their viewership. So they can sell advertising at a premium level.... boo boo the media is fake grow up and enjoy the show or just turn the channel @ op

     
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    Can we please have a military parade when Putin is visiting Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Can we please have a military parade when Putin is visiting Trump.


    That's an excellent idea Sundance....a military parade with about 10,000 marching troops, M1 Abrams super tanks ( with lasers),  M2 and M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicles with 25-millimeter Bushmaster automatic cannons and a TOW anti-tank missile launchers...even Patriot missiles and a flyover from a quartet of stealth fighters ........

    I love a parade, a handful of vets,
    A line of cadets or any brigade,
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Can we please have a military parade when Putin is visiting Trump.


    That's an excellent idea Sundance....a military parade with about 10,000 marching troops, M1 Abrams super tanks ( with lasers),  M2 and M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicles with 25-millimeter Bushmaster automatic cannons and a TOW anti-tank missile launchers...even Patriot missiles and a flyover from a quartet of stealth fighters ........

    I love a parade, a handful of vets,
    A line of cadets or any brigade,
    For I love a parade
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......

    While he told him to "cut it out"  he also issued a "stand down" order to the DOJ regarding Russian hacking. All of Hillary'so emails  are in the hands of an undisclosed foreign entity. Most likely Pakistan given the Awan families involvement. 

    I think Trump should have taken a re-reset button with him for last meeting. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......

    While he told him to "cut it out"  he also issued a "stand down" order to the DOJ regarding Russian hacking. All of Hillary'so emails  are in the hands of an undisclosed foreign entity. Most likely Pakistan given the Awan families involvement. 

    I think Trump should have taken a re-reset button with him for last meeting. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2018 - 6:21 AM ET #17

    The Media is a joke ....
    They play a major role in divide & conquer ...

    Trump is inanse , and he creates most of his own problems ...Pathetic he cant stop tweeting , no self control ... 
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    The Media is a joke ....
    They play a major role in divide & conquer ...

    Trump is inanse , and he creates most of his own problems ...Pathetic he cant stop tweeting , no self control ... 
     
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    *insane 
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    I have no side on Trump or Politics in general.  What I will say in my opinion is that the media is coming across as the Bully!  Perhaps this was all strategic on trumps part, who knows.  If the Liberal/Left media is tired of Trump they should really be focusing all of their energy on who is best to be his opponent at the next election.  Failure to do this will result in an easy re-election for Trump in 2020. 


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    I have no side on Trump or Politics in general.  What I will say in my opinion is that the media is coming across as the Bully!  Perhaps this was all strategic on trumps part, who knows.  If the Liberal/Left media is tired of Trump they should really be focusing all of their energy on who is best to be his opponent at the next election.  Failure to do this will result in an easy re-election for Trump in 2020. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......
    While he told him to "cut it out"  he also issued a "stand down" order to the DOJ regarding Russian hacking. All of Hillary'so emails  are in the hands of an undisclosed foreign entity. Most likely Pakistan given the Awan families involvement.  I think Trump should have taken a re-reset button with him for last meeting.

    Lets not forget another one of his classic quotes, calling ISIS a JV basketball team...that worked out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    If/when there's another Trump/Putin summit ..maybe President Trump will be more manly and forceful with Putin and confront  Russian President Vladimir Putin the way Obama did regarding the hacking of the 2016 ...when he said he told Putin in September 2016 to “cut it out” ......
    While he told him to "cut it out"  he also issued a "stand down" order to the DOJ regarding Russian hacking. All of Hillary'so emails  are in the hands of an undisclosed foreign entity. Most likely Pakistan given the Awan families involvement.  I think Trump should have taken a re-reset button with him for last meeting.

    Lets not forget another one of his classic quotes, calling ISIS a JV basketball team...that worked out well.

     
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    Well full steam ahead for the White House. The problem with Russian meddling is this was all legal. Legally the Russians posted a bunch of ads on Facebook legally the Russian obliarque bankers funneled money into the super pacs as ruled upon by citizens united legally Kushner borrowed from the Russian banks tothe case is against manforte Flynn and Michael Kohen but there is nothing else prosecutable. 

     entire purpose for muller team is smear Trump and turn the 2018 election 

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    Well full steam ahead for the White House. The problem with Russian meddling is this was all legal. Legally the Russians posted a bunch of ads on Facebook legally the Russian obliarque bankers funneled money into the super pacs as ruled upon by citizens united legally Kushner borrowed from the Russian banks tothe case is against manforte Flynn and Michael Kohen but there is nothing else prosecutable. 

     entire purpose for muller team is smear Trump and turn the 2018 election 

     
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    And the media has always been a joke. The hosts of the talk shows are for entertainment purposes only there really is not any hard hitting raw footage anywhere on news cycles they run the same stories slightly different opinions and always for Ratings. Nothing is shown without a risk reward neilson man showing what will be watched. David Hume standardization of non fiction does not exist in the onward parade of featured opinions we get from the 24/7 News feeds 

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    And the media has always been a joke. The hosts of the talk shows are for entertainment purposes only there really is not any hard hitting raw footage anywhere on news cycles they run the same stories slightly different opinions and always for Ratings. Nothing is shown without a risk reward neilson man showing what will be watched. David Hume standardization of non fiction does not exist in the onward parade of featured opinions we get from the 24/7 News feeds 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2018 - 10:15 AM ET #23

    We stopped getting our news through traditional feeds evening news. Ratings have consistently plummeted. When the big three nbc abc and cbs had a virtual monopoly they could collectively shape public opinion.... now not many even know the names of any national anchor on the desks. They have been replaced. First hand accounts wiki leaks published emails of Powell killary ect. We are so aware of the modern media propaganda machine we tuned all that 6-7 noise out as fake News Media beholden to sponsors not so much the truth

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    We stopped getting our news through traditional feeds evening news. Ratings have consistently plummeted. When the big three nbc abc and cbs had a virtual monopoly they could collectively shape public opinion.... now not many even know the names of any national anchor on the desks. They have been replaced. First hand accounts wiki leaks published emails of Powell killary ect. We are so aware of the modern media propaganda machine we tuned all that 6-7 noise out as fake News Media beholden to sponsors not so much the truth

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2018 - 10:43 AM ET #24

    CNN is the best 24hr talk show channel...its like a Jerry Lewis Telethon show that never ends...they have the best circus show going on TV

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