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    Trump cult and Jim Jones/Guyana

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    jimrockford22
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2020 - 10:26 PM ET #1

    I was coming to this in my mind.... and lo and behold, I see this.... it seems so similar. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-jim-jones-jonestown-massacre-suvivor-yulunda-williams-b1759192.html

    A Jonestown massacre survivor has compared the rhetoric of Donald Trump to that of Jim Jones, the cult leader who orchestrated the mass murder of nearly 1,000 of his followers.

    Yulunda Williams, who fled the The People's Temple Agricultural Project a year before the massacre took place in 1978, also accused the presidentof being responsible for the coronavirus deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

     

    "I sometimes listen to our commander-in-chief - he sounds so much [like him] and the rhetoric is so similar to that of Jim Jones," Ms Williams said.  

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    I was coming to this in my mind.... and lo and behold, I see this.... it seems so similar. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-jim-jones-jonestown-massacre-suvivor-yulunda-williams-b1759192.html

    A Jonestown massacre survivor has compared the rhetoric of Donald Trump to that of Jim Jones, the cult leader who orchestrated the mass murder of nearly 1,000 of his followers.

    Yulunda Williams, who fled the The People's Temple Agricultural Project a year before the massacre took place in 1978, also accused the presidentof being responsible for the coronavirus deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

     

    "I sometimes listen to our commander-in-chief - he sounds so much [like him] and the rhetoric is so similar to that of Jim Jones," Ms Williams said.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2021 - 10:25 AM ET #2

    Trump also has much in common with Hitler.  Both are delusional and lie often.  Both deride scientific experts.  Both attack mainstream media.  Both have their own propaganda media to spread lies.  Both love to organize mass rallies.  Both embrace extreme nationalism.  Both promise to make their nations great.  Both reject international norms.  Both promote hate, fear and violence.  Both blame immigrants and liberals.  Both close borders.  Both embrace mass detentions.  Both enrich elites.  Both demand oaths of loyalty.  Both claim unchecked power.  Both undermine democracy and rule of law.

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    Trump also has much in common with Hitler.  Both are delusional and lie often.  Both deride scientific experts.  Both attack mainstream media.  Both have their own propaganda media to spread lies.  Both love to organize mass rallies.  Both embrace extreme nationalism.  Both promise to make their nations great.  Both reject international norms.  Both promote hate, fear and violence.  Both blame immigrants and liberals.  Both close borders.  Both embrace mass detentions.  Both enrich elites.  Both demand oaths of loyalty.  Both claim unchecked power.  Both undermine democracy and rule of law.

     
    BuckFalls
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2021 - 11:12 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump also has much in common with Hitler.  Both are delusional and lie often.  Both deride scientific experts.  Both attack mainstream media.  Both have their own propaganda media to spread lies.  Both love to organize mass rallies.  Both embrace extreme nationalism.  Both promise to make their nations great.  Both reject international norms.  Both promote hate, fear and violence.  Both blame immigrants and liberals.  Both close borders.  Both embrace mass detentions.  Both enrich elites.  Both demand oaths of loyalty.  Both claim unchecked power.  Both undermine democracy and rule of law.
    Whats the phrase,if it walks like a duck?The other parts that are crucial to them being able to be all those things and be in power.Is they need a bunch of delusional people who believe anything they say,that's whats really scary,people believe in these liars and conmen.And they need other politicians or people in power who enable them to do what they want(mcconnel and little miss lindsey).We as Americans now have both of those situations in our country now.If you think that if the lil orange baby had won this election,that he wouldn't have thought and tried to become somewhat of a dictator or king trump for a 3rd term(he has never planned on having to leave),I think your wrong,he is always talking about and admiring people with complete power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump also has much in common with Hitler.  Both are delusional and lie often.  Both deride scientific experts.  Both attack mainstream media.  Both have their own propaganda media to spread lies.  Both love to organize mass rallies.  Both embrace extreme nationalism.  Both promise to make their nations great.  Both reject international norms.  Both promote hate, fear and violence.  Both blame immigrants and liberals.  Both close borders.  Both embrace mass detentions.  Both enrich elites.  Both demand oaths of loyalty.  Both claim unchecked power.  Both undermine democracy and rule of law.
    Whats the phrase,if it walks like a duck?The other parts that are crucial to them being able to be all those things and be in power.Is they need a bunch of delusional people who believe anything they say,that's whats really scary,people believe in these liars and conmen.And they need other politicians or people in power who enable them to do what they want(mcconnel and little miss lindsey).We as Americans now have both of those situations in our country now.If you think that if the lil orange baby had won this election,that he wouldn't have thought and tried to become somewhat of a dictator or king trump for a 3rd term(he has never planned on having to leave),I think your wrong,he is always talking about and admiring people with complete power.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2021 - 11:42 AM ET #4

    Send more money to Trump. 

    He going to need a alot for his future legal battles.

    And hook the old boy up with proper counsel 

    The hot mess and current legal team is 1 and 60 in court cases.

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    Send more money to Trump. 

    He going to need a alot for his future legal battles.

    And hook the old boy up with proper counsel 

    The hot mess and current legal team is 1 and 60 in court cases.

     
    jimrockford22
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2021 - 12:20 PM ET #5

    the more i think about it, i think the comparison is apt.

    here's whose support trump has lost (or been chastised for continuing with the bogus "stop the steal" campaign):

    Gorsuch, Kavanagh,  Barrett, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas

    Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Peggy Noonan

    many republican senators (and the rest stick with him out of fear or naked political ambition)... lost mitch mcconnell now too

    republican elected officials and election overseers in battleground states

    his lawyers have gone 1 for 50 in election lawsuits.... the 1 victory was quickly overturned by a higher court. why? - lack of any pertinent facts.

    BUT,

    1) his followers steadfastly back him no matter what (trump's comment that "i could shoot people on a busy new york street and not lose any supporters")

    2) republicans and others are now judged solely on their relationship/interaction with Trump..... nothing else matters.

    it really has become a "cult of personality".... and the Jim Jones reference is 100% correct as far as i'm concerned.

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    the more i think about it, i think the comparison is apt.

    here's whose support trump has lost (or been chastised for continuing with the bogus "stop the steal" campaign):

    Gorsuch, Kavanagh,  Barrett, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas

    Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Peggy Noonan

    many republican senators (and the rest stick with him out of fear or naked political ambition)... lost mitch mcconnell now too

    republican elected officials and election overseers in battleground states

    his lawyers have gone 1 for 50 in election lawsuits.... the 1 victory was quickly overturned by a higher court. why? - lack of any pertinent facts.

    BUT,

    1) his followers steadfastly back him no matter what (trump's comment that "i could shoot people on a busy new york street and not lose any supporters")

    2) republicans and others are now judged solely on their relationship/interaction with Trump..... nothing else matters.

    it really has become a "cult of personality".... and the Jim Jones reference is 100% correct as far as i'm concerned.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2021 - 12:56 PM ET #6

    trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what.

    1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women.

    trumpers-thats just locker room talk.

    They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

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    trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what.

    1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women.

    trumpers-thats just locker room talk.

    They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2021 - 7:13 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what.

    1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women.

    trumpers-thats just locker room talk.

    They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

    some r so stupid    they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what.

    1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women.

    trumpers-thats just locker room talk.

    They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

    some r so stupid    they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

    some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country

    Right! an_happybounce The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional.

    some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country

    Right! an_happybounce The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Right! an_happybounce The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

     

    exactly !  all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Right! an_happybounce The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

     

    exactly !  all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact thumbs_up

     
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    That 70 million Americans .... 

    Who look at your leaders as complete idiots out of touch with America. 

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    That 70 million Americans .... 

    Who look at your leaders as complete idiots out of touch with America. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional. some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country Right! The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

     

    all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional. some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country Right! The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.

     

    all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional. some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country Right! The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.  

     

    all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact

    THE BIG LIE   lives on in infamy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: trump had them at "mexicans are rapists,make mexico pay for building a wall",from then on he has been their guy no matter what. 1.Bragging about sexually assaulting women. trumpers-thats just locker room talk. They have an excuse or stupid explanation for everything he does,or they just spew out,'what about (fill in the blank obama,hillary,biden)'or say "fake news".When the ultimate coward(trump) can make clowns and buffoons think he is a tough guy,you know they are completely delusional. some r so stupid   they say its the democrat governors faults for rump failing to stop the virus spread all over the country Right! The trump-enabled virus spreading all over blue states since last February are completely the fault of the Democrat governors, while the trump-enabled virus spreading all over RED states since last February are completely the fault of China............and also the Democrats.  

     

    all deplorables who believe in the big lie also know this as a true alternative fact

    THE BIG LIE   lives on in infamy!

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