Trump's sentencing

So what's the point, truly?  

The man was charged and found guilty of 34 felonies, yet was neither sentenced jail nor probation / fines.  Essentially no penalty.

Obviously the right would argue both the charges and process were unfounded and clumsy at best and destined to be reversed on appeal.  I would argue this is perfectly reasonable.

I am curious what those on the left say / feel about this......objectively.  Sure, he can be labeled "convicted felon" until the appeal puts an end to that but is that what this was all about?

@unplucked_gem

 I am a hillbilly redneck conservative, and believe those charges were all a smokescreen show, to stop Trump from becoming President again.  You or I would have never got those charges taken serious enough to move through the court system imho, however I’m biased.  The next four years will be GREAT.  

Hush money case shows that no one is above the law.  FBI investigations began when Trump was president.  New York attorney general only prosecuted Trump because of strong evidences.  Trump lawyers failed in many appeals to dismiss cases.  To protect office of presidency, judge is lenient in sentencing Trump to unconditional discharge.  Sentence would probably be harsher if Trump isn't president.  The convicted felon cannot pardon himself for state crimes. 

 It was essentially just a waste of time & taxpayer money. The dems did this to try to keep him from even running for potus.......& failed miserably. They have embarrassed themselves once again.....& they'll get another dish of crow when the charges are overturned on appeal.

 In the words of James Coburn in "Hard Times",...."It doesn't matter what you do, Chick, you're always gonna smell like fish."

@THEMUGG

 The voters expressed their opinion. The voters overwhelmingly chose Trump over the Democratic candidate. This entire witch hunt after Trump has been a political assault against him which eventually culminated in two attempts against his life. I hope that voters remember for a very long time - what the Democrats have attempted to do. Hopefully never again. 

@thirdperson

"Hush money case shows that no one is above the law."

I guess but I don't think they achieved that target.

"To protect office of presidency, judge is lenient in sentencing Trump to unconditional discharge."

Possibly.  But he could have sentenced before the election which would have it's own set of complications.  More likely is he's protecting himself with all the reversible error.

@THEMUGG

 It's definitely a walks like a duck situation.  

3 coordinated efforts via the legal system to keep him out of office that indeed failed horribly.  

Also cannot wait to see what comes of the Fanni Willis BF meeting the White House on that case.

So you think the documents case where trump had them at his house in his bathroom was all bullshit and just a witch hunt?  Or do you think it was okay for him to have our most top secrets papers in his bathroom?  And of course that judge didnt help trump at every turn. Amazing how people like to bash the judges that rule against trump but dont say boo when a judge rules in trumps favor.  I truly in my whole life never seen so many people all across the country willing to drop to their knees and kiss this guys feet like hes Jesus Christ, even thou hes been a con artist his whole entire.  All real documented  cases against him that werent witch hunts.  Never seen so many people being okay with how trump just skates every law we have in Our Country. I guess our population is shifting away from looking up to good people and now bad people are their idols.  Oh well thats their choices. 

The point was and the SCOTUS understood that nobody is above the law and Trump got off any prison time because of his position and that was exactly the comment made multiple times by those involved. The common citizen would not get this result and there was no prison potential solely because of his current political position.

It shows how the elite can break the law or have a jury decide responsibility/guilt and have entitlement to avoid consequence. No citizen should be happy with this outcome even if you like Trump or side with his pity party narrative. The fact that the legal system can be altered because one person is in political position is disgusting. 

@cd329

"So you think the documents case where trump had them at his house in his bathroom was all bullshit and just a witch hunt?"

Somewhat. 

I think the show of force considering the agreed facts was unnecessary.

I think that he was president which comes with declassification privileges and therefore had a solid argument.

I think the case was dismissed 

Asked and answered.  My turn:

Its cool for Biden to take classified docs as a VP with no privileges?  Then store them in a location accessible to an addict with foreign ties?  Finally it's cool to not bring charges because senility but allow him to remain presiden

@wallstreetcappers

 Somewhat agree, good to hear from you.

So you are gonna go to that declassification garabge. Trump cant magically just say in his mind they documents are declassified and they become declassified.  My God its one thing to talk about the other case but this piece of shit traitor brought documents home that were some of the most top secret documents we have and you want to say oh well, he can do it.  Show of force??????????? My God the govt asked trump to just give the documents back and everything would be okay, but that piece of crap doesnt want to follow any rules and laws.  I know maybe the govt should have got on their knees kissed trumps feet and gave him 10 million dollars for the documents that didnt belong to him and actually belong to all of us, unless you are a citizen of another country, you should be pissed.  That case was no witch hunt but magas think Trump can do nothing wrong no matter what he does. Guys like you are the reason theres no point discussing politics with, cause theres no way trump is ever wrong.

And you do know the govt had no choice, they had to raid his house before he sent them to his pal putin and other dictators.

Time to walk away from this thread, since am not gonna lose my cool in one likes this.  God himself could come down to earth and say trump is guilty and the magas would tell God hes wrong and to take a fucking hike.

whats a real shame is 4 supreme courts justices didnt see it that way  4 real dirtbags.  Alito saying trump never talked to him about the case while on the phone.  Could be one of the funniest things ever.  If anybody really believes that BS, then i will seel them beach front property in kansas for 50k

As a convicted felon the POS can't own a gun & he's about to have the nuclear launch codes.

Meanwhile, Biden has pulled off positive job growth EVERY SINGLE MONTH of his presidency.

How crazy is that!!

@cd329

Yup.  1000% agree. That is a consistent pattern of behavior

Like the convicted felon and crime lord who leads them, the magas live in their own created bubble world where they creaqte their own reality with "alternative facts"

They still dont understand what trump did and what pence and biden did with the documents.  Biden and pence both let the govt come and get the documents once they found out they had them.  Baby trump who believes everything in govt belongs to him, when it all belongs to all of us refused to give the documents back, so of course they had to raid his house.  It really is comical how they cant see this, when its plain as day.  Why would any citizen democrat or republican want a former President to be storing top secret  documents in their fucking bathroom.  Their thought process is mind boggling   I just cant figure out why so many people bow to this guy, like he created the universe.  Who knows maybe trump did create it, he thought about it in his superior mind and it came true.  God was not the true creator, trumpy was.  The folks that grovel to this con artist politician is so damn funny.  Show some self respect for yourselves and get off your knees.

Legal experts doubt appeal could reverse felony conviction because of two reasons.  Jury verdict is less likely to be overturned than judge verdict.  Trump was convicted on all 34 felonies.  But Trump has a habit of ordering appeals without much success.

Obsessed with victim hood, Trump always cry witch hunts whenever he is being held accountable for his misconduct.  But numbers don't lie.  Thousands of lawsuits over the last 50 years.  With contempt for the rule of law, he keeps doing things that deserve investigations.

If, you just look at the numbers ..without looking into what type of jobs were added ..it looks pretty good.

However ................

During Joe Biden’s presidency, part-time jobs have accounted for a 25% of all job gains. Plus, the many recovered jobs from COVID-19 forced layoffs.  ( About 9 million of those jobs were lost during the pandemic)   Not to mention added government jobs.......a 6% growth of the full-time, non-seasonal federal workforce during his four years in office, including a jump at nearly every major agency. After four years, however, the number of federal employees grew by 2%. ..... Employment in government increased by 709,000 in 2023 alone..If the numbers come in low one month ,,,,,,Voila ,, just add some more government jobs till it's possessive number...nothing to it.

Side Note : I hear President Trump now carry's a Swedish survival knife......

@SarasotaSlim

 Welcome back Bruv.  Stay a while.

@THEMUGG

The beauty is we're going to find out and this thread will be here, maybe, waiting.  

@thirdperson

Everything from the charges to jury instructions was legally flawed and will be reversed.  The only question is whether the NY high court will save face or whether it rolls to the Supreme Court.

@cd329

 #12

Did he give them back documents?  

#13

Well God came down in Butler and pardoned him, so there's that.  Seriously though, how about adjudication is open court.

Finally, I don't want you to walk away upset.  We're just a bunch of nobody's on a forum talking opinions.  In the scheme of things the needle barely moves.  I try to hear your side and you try to hear my side, its the being open to dialog that matters not that the dialog goes your way.

@unplucked_gem ..........

Pardon me for going off the topic..I was giving a reply to post #15

This is so funny. A New York prosecutor that swore if elected he would get Trump, a judge whose daughter raises money for Dems, a high level prosecutor in DC that quits his job to work in New York. Charges that even CNN couldn't figure out. 

You folks are the ones who got Trump elected. 

You call him a racist Nazi and he represents the end of democracy. After he wins, "we will assure a smooth transition!" 

Then Biden trys to block everything Trump wants to do.