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    Van Jones: Libertarians are not Patriots they hate the people, the brown folk, the gays, the lesbian

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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 2:03 PM ET #1

    Jones was introduced by Obama activist Edward Norton, who likened the disgraced former Green Jobs Czar to the Dali Lama..

    Jones began his speech by citing his six months of work in the White House before launching into a tirade against the “so-called Libertarians.”

    In citing the Libertarian principle of economic liberty, Jones stated “They’ve taken their despicable ideology and used it a wrecking ball, that they have painted red, white and blue, to smash down every good thing in America.”

    Jones continued, “They say they’re Patriots but they hate everybody in America who looks like us.  They say they love America but they hate the people, the brown folk, the gays, the lesbians, the people with piercings, ya know ya’ll.”

    “You know your right-wing cousin that you can’t even talk to at Thanksgiving? Always posting what a patriot he or she is?” Jones asked the crowd at one point.  ”They love going to New York City! [sarcastically] I just had to take my child to see America’s beauty.” Jones then referenced the Statue of Liberty and fumed ”You can’t be an anti-immigrant bigot and a Patriot at the same time.”

    In an action item, Jones commanded, ”It’s time to take the country away from this cheap patriotism and stand for some deep patriotism.”

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    Jones was introduced by Obama activist Edward Norton, who likened the disgraced former Green Jobs Czar to the Dali Lama..

    Jones began his speech by citing his six months of work in the White House before launching into a tirade against the “so-called Libertarians.”

    In citing the Libertarian principle of economic liberty, Jones stated “They’ve taken their despicable ideology and used it a wrecking ball, that they have painted red, white and blue, to smash down every good thing in America.”

    Jones continued, “They say they’re Patriots but they hate everybody in America who looks like us.  They say they love America but they hate the people, the brown folk, the gays, the lesbians, the people with piercings, ya know ya’ll.”

    “You know your right-wing cousin that you can’t even talk to at Thanksgiving? Always posting what a patriot he or she is?” Jones asked the crowd at one point.  ”They love going to New York City! [sarcastically] I just had to take my child to see America’s beauty.” Jones then referenced the Statue of Liberty and fumed ”You can’t be an anti-immigrant bigot and a Patriot at the same time.”

    In an action item, Jones commanded, ”It’s time to take the country away from this cheap patriotism and stand for some deep patriotism.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 3:49 PM ET #2

    Grover Norquist gives libertarians a bad name.

    Libertarian - One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state, One who believes in free will.

    Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

    Republican Grover Norquist is who he is attacking. The problem with Grover Norquist is that he, like many other republicans, try to speak libertarian beliefs while continuing to hold strong to radical bigoted republican ideology.  

    Libertarians like me believe in liberal ideology and libertarian ideology and are against the republican ideology of today.

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    Grover Norquist gives libertarians a bad name.

    Libertarian - One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state, One who believes in free will.

    Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

    Republican Grover Norquist is who he is attacking. The problem with Grover Norquist is that he, like many other republicans, try to speak libertarian beliefs while continuing to hold strong to radical bigoted republican ideology.  

    Libertarians like me believe in liberal ideology and libertarian ideology and are against the republican ideology of today.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 4:05 PM ET #3

    the republican ideology of today is not much different from Abe Lincoln

    Lincoln was very far away from libertarian thought...he was a statist and an all powerful central government lover
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    Lincoln was very far away from libertarian thought...he was a statist and an all powerful central government lover
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Grover Norquist gives libertarians a bad name.

    Libertarian - One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state, One who believes in free will.

    Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

    Republican Grover Norquist is who he is attacking. The problem with Grover Norquist is that he, like many other republicans, try to speak libertarian beliefs while continuing to hold strong to radical bigoted republican ideology.  

    Libertarians like me believe in liberal ideology and libertarian ideology and are against the republican ideology of today.


    Tolerant of the ideas of others: Does that mean conservatives?

    What would you say the Republican ideas of today is?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Grover Norquist gives libertarians a bad name.

    Libertarian - One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state, One who believes in free will.

    Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

    Republican Grover Norquist is who he is attacking. The problem with Grover Norquist is that he, like many other republicans, try to speak libertarian beliefs while continuing to hold strong to radical bigoted republican ideology.  

    Libertarians like me believe in liberal ideology and libertarian ideology and are against the republican ideology of today.


    Tolerant of the ideas of others: Does that mean conservatives?

    What would you say the Republican ideas of today is?


     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 4:08 PM ET #5

    Van Jones, commie.  deserves execution.  
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:10 PM ET #6

    "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence.
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    The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty.
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    The way for a young man to rise is to improve himself in every way he can, never suspecting that anybody wishes to hinder him.
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    Sounds like a liberal libertarian to me.

    I posted this in Disco’s thread last night…

    Republicans want everyone to be indoctrinated at gunpoint. Republicans want us all to be one religion and have one single set of white Christian values enforced on the population. Republicans don’t believe in individual rights.

    They want to say who can get married, they want to re-write history, tell people what they can do to their own bodies, they want to make every school a religious school, tell women what rights they have, make porn illegal, control the media and television, and basically tell people what to think and believe in. Ron Paul is the only smart politician in the republican party.

    If it was up to republicans pot heads would be placed in concentration/indoctrination camps. Don’t tell me provide links. You know why you don’t know any of these things? It’s because you are a sheep.

    It’s funny to hear republicans call others sheep. When nothing ever comes out of their mouths but bah bah bah bahhaahhh fox news bah bah bah.

    I don’t really like democrats either but republicans today want a Christian Sharia Law indoctrinated on us at gunpoint.

    I am not tolerant of Christian Sharia Law.

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    "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence.
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty.
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    The way for a young man to rise is to improve himself in every way he can, never suspecting that anybody wishes to hinder him.
    ~Abraham Lincoln

    Sounds like a liberal libertarian to me.

    I posted this in Disco’s thread last night…

    Republicans want everyone to be indoctrinated at gunpoint. Republicans want us all to be one religion and have one single set of white Christian values enforced on the population. Republicans don’t believe in individual rights.

    They want to say who can get married, they want to re-write history, tell people what they can do to their own bodies, they want to make every school a religious school, tell women what rights they have, make porn illegal, control the media and television, and basically tell people what to think and believe in. Ron Paul is the only smart politician in the republican party.

    If it was up to republicans pot heads would be placed in concentration/indoctrination camps. Don’t tell me provide links. You know why you don’t know any of these things? It’s because you are a sheep.

    It’s funny to hear republicans call others sheep. When nothing ever comes out of their mouths but bah bah bah bahhaahhh fox news bah bah bah.

    I don’t really like democrats either but republicans today want a Christian Sharia Law indoctrinated on us at gunpoint.

    I am not tolerant of Christian Sharia Law.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:40 PM ET #7

    Lincoln didn't want the south to be indoctrinated at gunpoint 
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 5:44 PM ET #8

    Van jones obviously doesn't know what he is talking about, and is using the ignorance of this group to perpetuate stereotypes and lies.  

    nothing new.  He learned a lot from the Chicago politics before Barry had to kick him to the curb.  

    At some point you just have to feel bad for them. 
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    Van jones obviously doesn't know what he is talking about, and is using the ignorance of this group to perpetuate stereotypes and lies.  

    nothing new.  He learned a lot from the Chicago politics before Barry had to kick him to the curb.  

    At some point you just have to feel bad for them. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 6:22 PM ET #9

    It's funny to see that people are mad at Lincoln for how he handled the civil war and the south. The south is lucky I wasn't in command of the north. I would have never excepted Robert E. Lee's request to surrender. I would have killed him, his army and his followers execution style.
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    It's funny to see that people are mad at Lincoln for how he handled the civil war and the south. The south is lucky I wasn't in command of the north. I would have never excepted Robert E. Lee's request to surrender. I would have killed him, his army and his followers execution style.
     
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    Tough talk.  

    Big man 
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    Van Jones can eat a dick 
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    Ask me how I really feel
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