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    was the Donald's design to make Hillary Clinton president..

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    nature1970
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2016 - 1:14 PM ET #1

    Keep coming to this exact conclusion 

    A win republican contested convention check
    Become so much an arsh no one will vote for you. Check
    A former democrat who daughter is good friends with Chelsie and Caroline Kennedy double check...

    Did the Donald ssabatoge the republicans to make Hillary Clinton the president....

    I mean this type of deal happens a lot I will lose you win and I want a building or two in DC... Again check....
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    Keep coming to this exact conclusion 

    A win republican contested convention check
    Become so much an arsh no one will vote for you. Check
    A former democrat who daughter is good friends with Chelsie and Caroline Kennedy double check...

    Did the Donald ssabatoge the republicans to make Hillary Clinton the president....

    I mean this type of deal happens a lot I will lose you win and I want a building or two in DC... Again check....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2016 - 10:35 AM ET #2

    Chicago Tribune ran a story on this theme,. 
    Listing the gaffs in campaigning.

    Babies are props kissing babies is a huge boost to conveying tenderness empathy Trump states get that balling brat away from me.
    Veteran gives Trump his purple heart anyone would say thank you and thank you for your service.
    Nope Trump states I wanted one of these this was a whole lot easier.
    The list goes on and on to conclude trump is doing anything short of quitting to insure he won't be elected.
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    Chicago Tribune ran a story on this theme,. 
    Listing the gaffs in campaigning.

    Babies are props kissing babies is a huge boost to conveying tenderness empathy Trump states get that balling brat away from me.
    Veteran gives Trump his purple heart anyone would say thank you and thank you for your service.
    Nope Trump states I wanted one of these this was a whole lot easier.
    The list goes on and on to conclude trump is doing anything short of quitting to insure he won't be elected.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2016 - 10:51 AM ET #3

    I like his economic plan.
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    I like his economic plan.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 1:35 AM ET #4

    It's like now that trump has won the GOP domination and hijacked the party he is hell bent on running the party into the ground and commit political suicide letting Hillary win...  At least that's what it seems like everytime you hear about trump lately...

    Honestly with as bad as Hillary is, trump purposely losing is what she needs to win

    As a non-partisan independent I am critical of both sides
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    It's like now that trump has won the GOP domination and hijacked the party he is hell bent on running the party into the ground and commit political suicide letting Hillary win...  At least that's what it seems like everytime you hear about trump lately...

    Honestly with as bad as Hillary is, trump purposely losing is what she needs to win

    As a non-partisan independent I am critical of both sides
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2016 - 4:05 AM ET #5

    There are actually many people who have written many articles predicting this and commenting on it.  Would have been very prophetic if someone had made a thread about this month's ago
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    There are actually many people who have written many articles predicting this and commenting on it.  Would have been very prophetic if someone had made a thread about this month's ago
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2016 - 5:50 AM ET #6


    I have no skin in this game.  My State will vote for Billery by double digits.  My vote goes to Gary Johnson.  Trump is fukked by the Electoral Vote.  I see no way he wins with 270.  No way.  In fact, here's a scenario where Trump can take most of the Swing States, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire and STILL lose the Election...

    https://www.270towin.com/

    The on;y open question is how many Republicans Trump also drags down. 

    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    I have no skin in this game.  My State will vote for Billery by double digits.  My vote goes to Gary Johnson.  Trump is fukked by the Electoral Vote.  I see no way he wins with 270.  No way.  In fact, here's a scenario where Trump can take most of the Swing States, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire and STILL lose the Election...

    https://www.270towin.com/

    The on;y open question is how many Republicans Trump also drags down. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2016 - 8:34 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:




    The on;y open question is how many Republicans Trump also drags down. 



    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....
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    The on;y open question is how many Republicans Trump also drags down. 



    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2016 - 8:43 AM ET #8

    The answer to your initial question is clearly YES. Somehow people will do everything in their power not to see it for what it is...
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    The answer to your initial question is clearly YES. Somehow people will do everything in their power not to see it for what it is...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:



    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....

    You should look up how the federal deficit moved under Reagan and Bush. Especially Reagan. 
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    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....

    You should look up how the federal deficit moved under Reagan and Bush. Especially Reagan. 
     
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    Difference dems raise revenues taxes and spend the money Republicans cut revenue and spend twice as much
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:


    You should look up how the federal deficit moved under Reagan and Bush. Especially Reagan. 

    I agree that Republican presidents are just as bad. I was referring more to the President and Congress belonging 
     to the same party.
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    You should look up how the federal deficit moved under Reagan and Bush. Especially Reagan. 

    I agree that Republican presidents are just as bad. I was referring more to the President and Congress belonging 
     to the same party.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Keep coming to this exact conclusion 

    A win republican contested convention check
    Become so much an arsh no one will vote for you. Check
    A former democrat who daughter is good friends with Chelsie and Caroline Kennedy double check...

    Did the Donald ssabatoge the republicans to make Hillary Clinton the president....

    I mean this type of deal happens a lot I will lose you win and I want a building or two in DC... Again check....

    I just posted a thread with the same notion....been keeping it to myself for a while but I am very certain right now. The way I see it. If Trump was 'sane and logical' when he became the frontrunner, her would have attracted at least 65-70% of the male vote and 30-35% of the female vote (too high maybe?). But since his radicalization(very much a mirror of a form of Islamic ideology in spirit) of platform and ideology, I would say the numbers are now closer to 50% of males and only 20-25% of females thus ensuring that HILLARY WINS and the hence the conspiratorily way of thinking by you and I....plus the fact that both Chelsea and Ivanka are best friends so why ruin their futures of their children. I just posted this recently. 

    https://elitedaily.com/news/history-chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-friendship/1566984/

    For christ sakes, Trump is also 70 yrs old.....why do what he is doing? For him.....for his supposed 'American family of like minded citizens' or for a better future with a Democratic holding the reigns on a family and socialist point of view for his children and grand children? If you believe otherwise, then ask yourself why hasn't his own children disowned/separated themselves from the Donald because of his extreme kookiness that encourages a police state?
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Keep coming to this exact conclusion 

    A win republican contested convention check
    Become so much an arsh no one will vote for you. Check
    A former democrat who daughter is good friends with Chelsie and Caroline Kennedy double check...

    Did the Donald ssabatoge the republicans to make Hillary Clinton the president....

    I mean this type of deal happens a lot I will lose you win and I want a building or two in DC... Again check....

    I just posted a thread with the same notion....been keeping it to myself for a while but I am very certain right now. The way I see it. If Trump was 'sane and logical' when he became the frontrunner, her would have attracted at least 65-70% of the male vote and 30-35% of the female vote (too high maybe?). But since his radicalization(very much a mirror of a form of Islamic ideology in spirit) of platform and ideology, I would say the numbers are now closer to 50% of males and only 20-25% of females thus ensuring that HILLARY WINS and the hence the conspiratorily way of thinking by you and I....plus the fact that both Chelsea and Ivanka are best friends so why ruin their futures of their children. I just posted this recently. 

    https://elitedaily.com/news/history-chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-friendship/1566984/

    For christ sakes, Trump is also 70 yrs old.....why do what he is doing? For him.....for his supposed 'American family of like minded citizens' or for a better future with a Democratic holding the reigns on a family and socialist point of view for his children and grand children? If you believe otherwise, then ask yourself why hasn't his own children disowned/separated themselves from the Donald because of his extreme kookiness that encourages a police state?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:



    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....

    Not so with Bush's fiasco with 'military deficits'.....just like former Repubs.....turned a deficit into surpluses.........you can't win your argument using your logic just like I would not win saying a Democrat ALWAYS runs surpluses....they don't. You have to look at other things.
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:



    Not necessarily a good thing. The foreign policy part does not concern me as much as the Democrats love of spending money. A Dem President and Congress....

    Not so with Bush's fiasco with 'military deficits'.....just like former Repubs.....turned a deficit into surpluses.........you can't win your argument using your logic just like I would not win saying a Democrat ALWAYS runs surpluses....they don't. You have to look at other things.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Difference dems raise revenues taxes and spend the money Republicans cut revenue and spend twice as much

    And the spending goes towards military, prisons and police budgets so that their friends can invest in the stocks that go on a nice run on Wall Street or profit themselves from contracts.
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Difference dems raise revenues taxes and spend the money Republicans cut revenue and spend twice as much

    And the spending goes towards military, prisons and police budgets so that their friends can invest in the stocks that go on a nice run on Wall Street or profit themselves from contracts.
     
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    This type of action was written of by Steinbeck grapes of wrath. For the same money they could of paid labor. Instead they cut labor made lists. Paid cronies to fight the Okie's. Worked with thugs and Gave the money to their friends creating the suffering to drive more labor then needed to create a terror within the peasants and keep them oppressed . they actually was loosomg money.
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    This type of action was written of by Steinbeck grapes of wrath. For the same money they could of paid labor. Instead they cut labor made lists. Paid cronies to fight the Okie's. Worked with thugs and Gave the money to their friends creating the suffering to drive more labor then needed to create a terror within the peasants and keep them oppressed . they actually was loosomg money.
     
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    [Politics] Topic: was the Donald's design to make Hillary Clinton president..

    Michael Moore claims he has the inside scoop on Donald Trump and his bid to be president. Trump never actually wanted to be president, he just sought a better deal from NBC for his reality show, The Apprentice. ..he just wanted more money..

    MM claims Trump doesn't /didn't want to become President that's why he keeps saying crazy things....

    *****************************

    Now,that would fall in line with all the Democrat conspiracy theorist we have in this forum ...except there's a problem ,..a very big problem..Donald Trump is not to big to fail ..because it look very much like Hillary Clinton is going down ,,and in flames ,before the election.. 

    The next problem the Democrats have is insurmountable,,they don't have a back up quarterback..Kaine and Biden are not options..and they put all their money on Clinton......so it looks like Trumps design will back fire and he will end up being our 45th President ..whether he wanted to be or not..
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    [Politics] Topic: was the Donald's design to make Hillary Clinton president..

    Michael Moore claims he has the inside scoop on Donald Trump and his bid to be president. Trump never actually wanted to be president, he just sought a better deal from NBC for his reality show, The Apprentice. ..he just wanted more money..

    MM claims Trump doesn't /didn't want to become President that's why he keeps saying crazy things....

    *****************************

    Now,that would fall in line with all the Democrat conspiracy theorist we have in this forum ...except there's a problem ,..a very big problem..Donald Trump is not to big to fail ..because it look very much like Hillary Clinton is going down ,,and in flames ,before the election.. 

    The next problem the Democrats have is insurmountable,,they don't have a back up quarterback..Kaine and Biden are not options..and they put all their money on Clinton......so it looks like Trumps design will back fire and he will end up being our 45th President ..whether he wanted to be or not..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Chicago Tribune ran a story on this theme,. 
    Listing the gaffs in campaigning.

    Babies are props kissing babies is a huge boost to conveying tenderness empathy Trump states get that balling brat away from me.
    Veteran gives Trump his purple heart anyone would say thank you and thank you for your service.
    Nope Trump states I wanted one of these this was a whole lot easier.
    The list goes on and on to conclude trump is doing anything short of quitting to insure he won't be elected.

    Sorry to dispute the liberal narrative, but Trump never said "get that balling brat away from me".
    In fact ...
    https://redalertpolitics.com/2016/08/05/mother-crying-baby-trump-rally-trump-never-kicked-child/

    You also take umbrage with Trumps obvious tongue in cheek comment about the purple heart. Your response to his joke is in line with the media's reaction to it.
    Once again, here are the facts from the mouth of the vet himself ...
    https://prntly.com/2016/08/03/must-share-the-wounded-vet-who-gave-trump-his-purple-heart-speaks-out-vs-media/

    Don't eat what the media is feeding you.
    Instead, seek the truth 


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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Chicago Tribune ran a story on this theme,. 
    Listing the gaffs in campaigning.

    Babies are props kissing babies is a huge boost to conveying tenderness empathy Trump states get that balling brat away from me.
    Veteran gives Trump his purple heart anyone would say thank you and thank you for your service.
    Nope Trump states I wanted one of these this was a whole lot easier.
    The list goes on and on to conclude trump is doing anything short of quitting to insure he won't be elected.

    Sorry to dispute the liberal narrative, but Trump never said "get that balling brat away from me".
    In fact ...
    https://redalertpolitics.com/2016/08/05/mother-crying-baby-trump-rally-trump-never-kicked-child/

    You also take umbrage with Trumps obvious tongue in cheek comment about the purple heart. Your response to his joke is in line with the media's reaction to it.
    Once again, here are the facts from the mouth of the vet himself ...
    https://prntly.com/2016/08/03/must-share-the-wounded-vet-who-gave-trump-his-purple-heart-speaks-out-vs-media/

    Don't eat what the media is feeding you.
    Instead, seek the truth 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: was the Donald's design to make Hillary Clinton president..

    Michael Moore claims he has the inside scoop on Donald Trump and his bid to be president. Trump never actually wanted to be president, he just sought a better deal from NBC for his reality show, The Apprentice. ..he just wanted more money..

    MM claims Trump doesn't /didn't want to become President that's why he keeps saying crazy things....


    Yes, Michael Moore is making accusations of Trump never having wanted to be President and claiming that his words are facts.

    Of course the bloated liberal also claimed that Trump was going to beat HRC about 1 month ago ...
    https://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

    We should all put a lot of stock into what that lard azz has to say.
    It's not like he is one of the most biased people on the planet  

    Anyone who buys into what any extremist says, and this goes for extremists for both sides, deserves the accompanying anger which is derived from their opinions 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    [Politics] Topic: was the Donald's design to make Hillary Clinton president..

    Michael Moore claims he has the inside scoop on Donald Trump and his bid to be president. Trump never actually wanted to be president, he just sought a better deal from NBC for his reality show, The Apprentice. ..he just wanted more money..

    MM claims Trump doesn't /didn't want to become President that's why he keeps saying crazy things....


    Yes, Michael Moore is making accusations of Trump never having wanted to be President and claiming that his words are facts.

    Of course the bloated liberal also claimed that Trump was going to beat HRC about 1 month ago ...
    https://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

    We should all put a lot of stock into what that lard azz has to say.
    It's not like he is one of the most biased people on the planet  

    Anyone who buys into what any extremist says, and this goes for extremists for both sides, deserves the accompanying anger which is derived from their opinions 
     
     
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