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@StumpTownStu

 Maaaaybeeee three times in my lifetime -- but likely just twice.

You?

Good deal! 

@kindred

It is huge and growing all over the world.  I travel a lot and see pickleball courts that started cropping up a few years back all over.

I have played tennis my entire life at a very decent level, table tennis maybe even better, racquetball, and dabbled at squash.

But for weird reason I have swerved pickleball when asked.  Maybe feel it is the shuffleboard of tennis for older folks.

But these folks are very serious about it.  I am sure sooner or later I will find myself on a court.

A few years ago I was at a sportsbar and they were showing it on TV.  I had never even heard of it before.  They had fans in stands and everything.

Then I am in a park in South America to play basketball and see more people on pickleball courts than tennis courts.

They say it is easier for folks that have injury issues and stuff.

Then I am told that learning the scoring at first is unusual.

But I am very interested to try it sometime.

I just think some folks do not take it as a 'serious' sport.  But it seems like a good workout and, like I said, I know folks that take it very serious.

There are several groups, in fact, that are going in the morning to play -- they go every Sunday and once or twice during the week. Leagues and all.

@kindred

 Did they mark it as loss already?  Maybe have to wait until game is over?

If do not want to call -- should be online messaging way.

Need to tie it up 

Now if they can get a goal in OT 

Wild tied it up 3-3 

Panthers 1 

Wild did not come to play today 

@SarasotaSlim

 For sure he was very charismatic and good-looking.  Those are two of the three main reasons he won.  He drew the women's vote out and that was, more or less, the first election that women decided.  It can be argued they have decided every one since then.

Not just womanizer.  

The Cuban Missile Crisis, the support of the Baathist, worsening Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Vienna, After being irate about the Freedom Riders he succumbed to immense pressure to start a Civil Rights move -- but still drug his feet, okayed the Equal Pay Act -- but otherwise not much on the domestic front.  Abuse of use of the IRS and FBI, etc.

I am not big on thinking a President has to be morally like a priest.  So, the womanizing I give a 'pass' on.  But the dirty campaigning tricks would lend a case for where the problem(s) with 'dirty poltics' started in the modern times and set the stage going forward.

The Cuban Missile Crisis was not completely the win that so many proclaim.  You have to see it in its entirety with the situation where he then had to pull missiles from Turkey, etc.

I agree that the modern Democrats would want him to be more radical.  I also agree with him on a lot of his stances -- like supporting the EC and the ones you mentioned.

But I think the not-so-good that he did, caused, or did not prevent are glossed over.  Mainly because he was killed in office and from the way he sold himself when running with the family and war-hero as opposed to the way things had been done before.

So, especially with TV, the folks had a 'certain' perception of who he was and that helps to 'overrate' him somewhat.

I do think he was top 2-4 Democrats, just not as good as some historians and the media have led the public to believe.

I am not saying I think was horrible; simply regarded too highly.

BOL tonight 

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BOL tonight 

Howdy P   Good luck today Fellows 

@SarasotaSlim

 How do you address his 'failures' or non-achievements and reconcile it with his achievements?  In fact, one of the main knocks on him is that the civil rights was a lot of non-action and lip-service.

But what about some of the other issues.  How do you feel about them?

My contention is that he is overrated by at least 5 - 10 spots, more or less, because he was assassinated.

WOW!  Big card for you! 

Good luck today!! 

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