BaseballisLife1

https://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/cardinals-@-mets.cfm/date/04-01-18/time/1310

Terp, so this game obviously people are hammering the Cardinals here. So at what point do you take the Cardinals? Closing line? The middle from where it opens and closes? How do you know when to take it? 

Terp, yeah I've tried to look into line movement but I couldn't really understand it so I gave up and I've tried handicapping games myself but I suck. I'll go back to the start of the MLB season and track the line movement on different days/games and see how the results are. 

Which is why I pay for picks. But hey you said there's an app? that will alert you when a line is moving?

Finster, I've tried to find good handicappers to tail on this site, but I haven't been able to find it.

I'd rather pay someone 20 and he tells me to take the Cubs yesterday at -105 (yes I know they lost) OR I could tail someone on here and he says to take the Indians at -250?!?!?!?!

Sports betting comes down to ROI, not record and with that being the case, I'd rather use someone who is telling me take lines at between -130 and +150 then tail someone on here who is saying take lines between -150 and -350, see the difference?? ROI is what matters not record.

Dick, if you go to documentedhandicappers.com

those guys are legit cappers, I've been using their picks for NBA and they do win more then they lose. Right now, using thier picks I'm at about a 57% win rate against the spread, which is pretty good actually.

I just don't understand why they all get a bad rep, its like "this guy uses drugs, so all guys use drugs" just because some yes are scams, doesn't mean that they all are. 

Robo, I don't know about any of that. I haven't been keeping track of the laws regarding sports betting. But that actually would be a really good thing if it does become a law. because like you said, it would bring out all the legit cappers and all the scam people would go to jail.

I am no tout sir, I just a degenerate like the rest of you, but I actually buy picks. because once in a while you might actually find a guy who knows what he's talking about. Just some food for thought. 

Okay I read through that chart....I don't use any of those guys...they suck. So regardless this is retarded. I have my way and you have yours, it still doesn't explain how I'm making $$ using there picks. But hey if you guys want to get all butt hurt then that's your problem not mine.

last week the guy that I use went 7-1 on the day.....the other days? 2-3, 3-3, 3-0, 2-1, 2-2 and then 2-4....do the math. 21-14 looks to me like a WINNING week.

I'm not sure why I'm even talking to you people...

"The first is a scamdicapper.  These guys know nothing about sports, in fact "the guy" usually doesn't even exist.  It is a made up name to represent a made up resume of BS.  The model looks like this:  Get lists of previously paying customers (marks), call them and offer them 2 free games, if both win they pay for a subscription.  Then, give these marks opposite sides of the same game.  For every 4 marks you engage, you are going to have 1 that wins the first 2 games and signs up - the other 3 marks that lose one of the first two games go back in the pool and get called by someone else to enter the hamster wheel again.  They have no intention of winning, only getting cash from marks."

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You obviously have never paid for picks before and have never even done you're homework to see if anyone of them are actually legit. You're just quoting other people things you hear from the grapevine. 

No sorry but I don't believe you.

Yesterday the only guy that I buy picks from had Over 9.5 in the Twins game, it was his only pick. Game ended 7-5....

That whole thing you just wrote went in one ear and out the other. So to speak, and those "subscription fees" that you're talking about....lets be realistic here, most degenerates like myself, if they are betting at least $100 on a game then they can afford to spend $300 a month for picks...and the juice that you speak of, is between -110 and -130 so yeah...

Would anyone on here ever pay for picks?? It's kinda funny how 99% of people on this site whine and complain about how BAD 

professional handicappers are. Well here's the thing: if their so BAD why don't people just FADE THEM?????

Yes I'll admit, I have paid for picks, and there are some LEGIT handicappers out there who do charge for picks.

Vegas Insiders, documented handicappers, usasportsmoderator, all those sites have very legit handicappers. What makes them legit???

They post their records 5 mins after the game starts, so that people know their records are legit. Win or Lose. 

I just don't understand why they get such a bad rep. Some of them are VERY good, far better then the handicappers on here. 

And as the old saying goes, you have to invest money to make money. 

I don't know, me personally I'd rather invest money, with someone who has a legit record, rather then take someones picks off this site,

who for all I know, could just be guessing about picks and really is a loosing bettor overall. 

Would anyone on here ever pay for picks?? It's kinda funny how 99% of people on this site whine and complain about how BAD 

professional handicappers are. Well here's the thing: if their so BAD why don't people just FADE THEM?????

Yes I'll admit, I have paid for picks, and there are some LEGIT handicappers out there who do charge for picks.

Vegas Insiders, documented handicappers, usasportsmoderator, all those sites have very legit handicappers. What makes them legit???

They post their records 5 mins after the game starts, so that people know their records are legit. Win or Lose. 

I just don't understand why they get such a bad rep. Some of them are VERY good, far better then the handicappers on here. 

And as the old saying goes, you have to invest money to make money. 

I don't know, me personally I'd rather invest money, with someone who has a legit record, rather then take someones picks off this site,

who for all I know, could just be guessing about picks and really is a loosing bettor overall. 

Dave, you're missing the point. You're auntie, uncle, grandma, grampa, etc etc don't want to bet because it is illegal. Now if you make something legal and as harmless as sports betting. 

Most people will say screw it, I'll put down a few dollars on the Patriots, just so that they can have some action on the game and make it that much more enjoyable for them to watch.

NOW let's say you have 1 million people all thinking like this, its only a few dollars who cares. Once again they are only doing it for ENTERTAINMENT. What is going to happen to that line???????

Plus other people are agreeing with what I'm saying. Most newbie bettors don't know what an upset is. 

Dave, you couldn't be farther from the truth. Earlier this year when Kershaw was pitching against the Marlins he was -380 and by first pitch he was -400 and that's just off of Nevada lines.

So if you have 30+ states all betting MLB yes you very well could see a -450 ML in baseball. That's my point of this thread,if you have say 30 million people all betting MB with only a few books, those lines are going to move A LOT. 

Most newbie bettors will see the -300 and automatically think "its -300 he has to win" now lets say you have just 1 MILLION people nation wide and each person puts $20 on that -300. What's $20*1 million? That line is going to move.

So with sports betting now being legal, is anyone else wondering how these lines are going to be affected when you have say 30 million people all using 1 book...William Hill for example.

Kluber was -320 ML a few days ago. Is it hard to believe that with this many people or more betting on MLB that, that line could potentially be as high as -450? ?????? by first pitch. 

Lines are going to start to move very fast I think once you have 30+ states all betting with X amount of books...

3-5-4 yesterday 

Will Denard Span (TB) record a hit? No +135

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Alex Gordon (KC)-115 Carlos Gomez (TB)-115, Take Gordon -115

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Kyle Seager (SEA) Under 2 -105

More to come later GL!!

Total Strikeouts- Gerrit Cole Over 7.5 -125

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Khris Davis (OAK) Under 2 -115

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Starlin Castro (MIA) -105 Chris Taylor (LAD) -125, Take Castro -105

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's John Hicks (DET) -115 Jason Kipnis (CLE) -115, Take Hicks -115

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Wilmer Flores (NYM) -120 Russell Martin (TOR) -110, Take Flores -120

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Steven Souza Jr. (ARI) -125 Christian Yelich (MIL) -105, Take Yelich -105

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Joey Gallo (TEX) Under 2 -110

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Evan Longoria (SF) Even Scooter Gennett (CIN) -130, Take Gennett -130

Kyle 

3-3-2 yesterday

Will Freddy Glavis (SD) record a hit? No +135

Total hits, runs, and rbi's- Eric Hosmer (SD) Under 2 -130

Most hits, runs, and rbi's Jose Pirela (SD) -115 Gerardo Parra (COL) -115, Take Parra -115

Most hits, runs, and rbi's Christian Villanova (SD) Even Trevor Story (COL) -130, Take Story -130

**ALL players must START for action

More to come later!! GL!!!

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's John Hicks (DET) +140 Jason Kipnis (CLE) -170, Take John Hicks +140

Most Hits, Runs and RBI's Albert Pujols (LAA) -115 Alex Bregman (HOU) -115, Take Alex Bregman -115

Total Strikeouts - Joey Lucchesi (L) Over 5.5 -130

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Edwin Encarnacion (CLE) Under 2 +100

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Victor Martinez (DET) Under 1.5 +100

Total Hits, Runs and RBI's - Mike Trout (LAA) Under 2.5 -140