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Where are these lines from for these contests?? The same lines used in the CONSENSUS section.... I cant seem to match them up against any of the sportsbooks out there.....
Anyone know??
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bdarrell2011 | 2 |
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Thankyou! I was told by another member that it may be pinnacle? But Im not seeing it match their numbers....
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bdarrell2011 | 8 |
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Are you sure? Cuz when I am using SBR - Live Odds, I set it up to show me what the opening line was for Pinnacle and it doesnt match the opening line for Covers.com line moves......
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bdarrell2011 | 4 |
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In the consensus section, which are the same lines used for all the contests on here.... Where are those lines from???? Anyone Know??
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bdarrell2011 | 4 |
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In the consensus section, they have line moves...... Where are they getting those lines from??? Anyone know?
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bdarrell2011 | 8 |
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And Thanks for all the replies to this!! Much appreciated!!!
Cant understand why no one else on this site bothers to put in their two cents..... Oh well.... |
bdarrell2011 | 7 |
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No, I know what you are saying. But they have agreed to reset every week, without holding me hostage to any previous winnings! Thats for sure. I dont have to worry about that.....
But this is the problem..... EXAMPLE: Book A: Celtics Win +1000 Lakers Loss -1100 Chicago Win +1000 Miami Loss -1100 FINAL AT END OF WEEK: -200 (I Get Paid 40.00) NET LOSS -$160 Book B: Celtics Win +1000 Lakers Loss -1100 Chicago Win +1000 Miami Loss -1100 FINAL AT END OF WEEK: -200 (I Get Paid 40.00) NET LOSS -$160 I am playing BOTH sides of every bet, but since I dont know which side is going to win or lose..... So unless ALL losses go on one account and ALL wins go on another account, the vig eats up the profits. Now if I just place one big bet, say of $10,000 on one account and played the other side on the other account, then that would work, but of course the books are going to stop that quickly..... I need a system, to where I can maybe chase? Or a service that I can see line moves and try to catch some middles?? I dunno..... Its frustrating, cuz I know it can be done, I just dont know how....
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bdarrell2011 | 7 |
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The other day i was able to catch a few MLB lines that looked like this.
u9.5 EVN o9.5 +105 I played 5,000 on each side. The under ended up hitting, which wasnt the best scenario, but there was no vig. So one account is up 5,000 and the other is down 5,000. So I am currently looking to make $1,000 in commission so far. Im thinking this may be only way for this system to work? Just dont know how many of these situations I will catch in a week?? Or if I could find a sports odds service that would give me an accurate head up of the line move to give me additional plays like this? I also have a ton of 1/2 variances. So if there were enough PUSHES in the week on the games I played, I wonder if those winning on one book and pushing on another book, would have me coming out ahead for the week as well??? I dunno? Would love to hear a few more angles on this concept.
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bdarrell2011 | 7 |
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If I have 3 separate account to place plays, all pay 20% commission if i lose. Is there a system I can use to come out ahead each week or no?? My brain is fried trying to figure it out, I just need some outside input to prove it can or cant be done.
I am trying to figure out how to place bets strategically so that even if i have to play both sides of a game i can either catch a MIDDLE or just simply win with one book, lose with another but my commissions will exceed the difference. Obviously if i just made a 10,000 bet on one side and play the opposite side of the same game for 10,000 = That would mean I would win $10,000 with one book, lose $11,000 with another book, but make $2,200 back in commissions, Thus netting me $1,200 for the week GUARANTEED without having to do a thing. However, I cant just place one bet a week or they will catch on. But i cant just place a million bets going both ways cuz if i push on both accounts, the vig will eat me up. Is there a DOUBLE up system I could use to make this work??? Im willing to pay someone if they can provide me with a system for this. IF IT IS POSSIBLE??? Please give me your thoughts. Good or bad, dont care. Just want some ideas or someone to kill the idea.
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bdarrell2011 | 7 |
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I posted a few days ago about me having several accounts that I am paid 20% commissions on. With no red figure. I assumed that if I played both sides of every game, only losing 10% vig each time, all while getting paid 20% commission on the losing accounts. This would net me a profit of 10%? But after doing the math, I am seeing that if unless you lose ALL the plays on one site, and win ALL the plays on the other site, that the juice starts chipping away at the profit.
Is there a way mathematically to make this work??? Or is it impossible?
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bdarrell2011 | 4 |
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Yes, That is my intentions. Im gonna give it a shot!
Thanks for your input and Ill send you a message later next week and tell you how things are going! Take Care
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bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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All Credit. No money up.
Is there a way for me to see if lines are going to move a little, one way or the other, so that I can try to catch a 1/2 point or a full point and try to catch some of the middles when games PUSH?? Cuz thats the REAL money if I can catch a few of those along the way. But yes, I can do all this right now. But I have to make sure I dont run out of money in one of the accounts, because if one account does happen to win $20,000 early in the week. Its going to look suspicious if i have to stop all betting on a thursday for example. should I space out the bets evenly during the week? These are the things I need to figure out.
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bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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To buy a 1/2 point, it costs me an extra 10% (ultimately my profit), so in order to hit middles, its going to take me catching the games that have the different lines, and having them be the ones that PUSH or possibly catch the middle and win both. I would have to be every single game to try and catch those.
Now baseball, I should be able to bet both sides, with only a 6%-7% variance..... which would net me 13%-14% commission on those plays. I am thinking it has to be laid out in an exact system, and follow it religiously. But the facts I am writing are all 100% accurate. It is what I tell you it is, now I just need to figure out the right way to work it. If I can work two accounts for $20,000 each per week..... the best I can do is win 20,000 on one side and lose 22,000 on another side and I will make $2,400 profit. But the most likely scenario would be that I would win $10,000 on side and lose $11,000 on the other. Making $1,200 profit on commission. If I can catch one or two middles along the way each week, then those will be a nice bonus I guess. |
bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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Hey, Im telling you what I get, you dont know me. I have no reason to lie.
I get 30% commission, but i gut to make up a red figure if that account wins.... So thats tricky.... But the other two accounts, I make 20% commission on the players EVERY WEEK..... Swear on my kids lives..... Again, Im a stranger on here..... Not looking to impress anyone with this idea, just looking for a few people who are good with numbers to confirm what I am thinking about doing here. I appreciate any feedback I can get, as I myself, am looking for a reason NOT to bother trying, and I still cant find one......
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bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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EXACTLY KIRBY......
Thats what I was thinking. Now if you add in the fact that the lines are different sometimes. Then figure on a PUSH, I am winning one side and PUSHING the other. AND, On a 1.5 point difference, which I have seen between the two on some games, I could win BOTH sides! But then that would change the amount I would make on commissions if I happened to hit a few of those a week, I think that would cost me a little bit of those winnings??? If Im thinking correctly. I really have to put it on paper. Because you only used one example. What if I did that every night, and one bookie seemed to catch all the losers and the other got all the winners. If I ran out of money on one side, I would have to stop betting for the week, because I would have the credit to place it both ways. I think it could work. It could be a free $1,000-$3,000 a week if I played it right and I dont think any of them would ever catch on.
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bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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Both sides will pay off. Cant get too greedy! Im thinking of chipping at them for $3-4k per week. I already have 3 reputable sources. I can come up with a fourth. I know they are all big pockets who wont stiff. The question is how to spread it out and which plays to middle and how to orchestrate the accounts the right way.
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bdarrell2011 | 6 |
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Anyone help me with this??? I KNOW there is a way to middle games EVERY NIGHT with the setup that I currently have. I need some insight from someone who might have a setup like I currently do. 3 Local Bookies with unlimited $$$, I have separate accounts under all of them. $30,000 EACH. We will call them B1, B2, B3..... B1 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, And I get 30% commission on the total losses for each week. I do have a RED FIGURE to make up if I win with this guy. B2 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. B3 - 30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. Each website always has varying lines, sometimes a full point apart on some games! Am I wrong to assume that with the right system, I can play both sides of select games every night and not only win both sides on some middles, but with 20% commissions and NO RED figure, I am already beating the vig by 10% by taking both sides AS IS, without catching the middle!!???? Am I crazy to think this is possible or is someone interested in figuring it out with me and I will make it worth their while!! |
smitler | 2552 |
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I KNOW there is a way to middle games EVERY NIGHT with the setup that I currently have. I need some insight from someone who might have a setup like I currently do. 3 Local Bookies with unlimited $$$, I have separate accounts under all of them. $30,000 EACH. We will call them B1, B2, B3..... B1 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, And I get 30% commission on the total losses for each week. I do have a RED FIGURE to make up if I win with this guy. B2 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. B3 - 30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. Each website always has varying lines, sometimes a full point apart on some games! Am I wrong to assume that with the right system, I can play both sides of select games every night and not only win both sides on some middles, but with 20% commissions and NO RED figure, I am already beating the vig by 10% by taking both sides AS IS, without catching the middle!!???? Am I crazy to think this is possible or is someone interested in figuring it out with me and I will make it worth their while!! |
bdarrell2011 | 16 |
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LOL, Sorry, did i not explain that the right way???
If I play both sides of games at only a 10% vig, and im collecting 20% commissions with a bookie. I can make 10% on every game..... I just have to figure out a way to do it without it going detected. And a way to play some middles along the way to make it really profitable.
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bdarrell2011 | 6 |
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I KNOW there is a way to middle games EVERY NIGHT with the setup that I currently have. I need some insight from someone who might have a setup like I currently do. 3 Local Bookies with unlimited $$$, I have separate accounts under all of them. $30,000 EACH. We will call them B1, B2, B3..... B1 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, And I get 30% commission on the total losses for each week. I do have a RED FIGURE to make up if I win with this guy. B2 - $30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. B3 - 30,000 Limit, $1,000 Per Game, I get 20% commission on the total losses for each week. NO RED FIGURE EVER TO MAKE UP. Each website always has varying lines, sometimes a full point apart on some games! Am I wrong to assume that with the right system, I can play both sides of select games every night and not only win both sides on some middles, but with 20% commissions and NO RED figure, I am already beating the vig by 10% by taking both sides AS IS, without catching the middle!!???? Am I crazy to think this is possible or is someone interested in figuring it out with me and I will make it worth their while!! Let me know!
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bdarrell2011 | 6 |
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