ItalianSharp

OKC has been playing sick basketball.

They'd lost half of their games without Durant.  Talking about MVP.

How did Josh screw your bet?

Hawks could have won it in OT as well.

Magic didn't have any business with this game tonight hadn't it been for the refs putting Atlanta in foul trouble after 1.30min into the 4th quarter.

agree

agree

typical overreaction by the books.  this game should go down to the wire.

same here.  Cavs +2 to the house.

The logic behind your reasoning is sound.  However, what you are missing out is that Cleveland may get some help from the officiating crew...couple of bad calls here, couple of bad calls there...Duncan hitting 2 fouls early...

Whenever a line makes no sense to me, I immediately think of the refs.  Most gamblers underestimate the importance of refs.

Ask Orlando backers from last night.

First foul was on Granger, but I am not sure he was touched.

Second fould was on TJF, who actually stepped out of bounds before being fouled.

Classic.

Whoever believes some of these games aren't fixes should watch the 4th quarter of this game tonight.

Refs were all over Indy +2 and did everything to get Indiana the cover or push.

I think Indiana players were on the take too.

Bucks players were like "WTF" is going on here???

Classic fixed game.  I had Pacers +2 and I can't believe I didn't lose this bet.  Indiana played at least 15pt worse than the Bucks and almost took it to OT.

well done vanzack.  I had the niners too as a system play, glad they pulled their heads outta their asses in the 2nd half.

I may be wrong, but I believe the Colts rookie corners aren't that bad at all.

Scratch off the New England game because it's pretty darn misleading.  Brady & Moss can't be stopped by any secondary, they are as good a tandem as it can get.  All secondaries would get burned by this New England offense.

On the other end, weren't you impressed by Indy's comeback against the Pats despite their "weak" secondary?

It's gonna be a very interesting matchup today.  I am all over Payton.

You really believe Vegas & the Ravens are part of the same conspiracy that masterminded the biggest trap-game of the year by having Baltimore showing no offense vs the Browns?

That would be mentally twisted to say the least.  And what about the offensive shit fest the Ravens put up against Cincinnati?  Was that part of the plan also?

Don't overanalyze this game.  It'll come down to whether the Ravens can score TDs vs the Colts defense and how the Ravens defense deals with Payton.

If Ravens can create a couple of TOs and keep the Colts out of the red zone, they have a chance.

Nevertheless, I can't pass on a big play on Indy,  These guys have won 18 consecutive games and I certainly dont wanna put myself against a freight train.

So just because Indy has won 18 consecutive games - 3 shy of the Patriots all-time record of 21 - and beaten the Ravens 5 consecutive times ----> Baltimore is the play?

Honestly I don't get it.  Are you guys scared by the low line?  You should be happy and licking your chops instead.

I don't get it how this game is a trap.  Colts are still favorite on the road against a solid home Ravens team.  If this game were played @ Indianapolis, the line would be Colts -7 at least.

It's not like Colts were playing @ Oakland.  They play Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, the tough scary Baltimore Ravens.

I've read thru this thread and there are a few statements I don't agree with.

1) Colts may be gassed out due to the miraculous comeback against the Patriots.  It could certainly be a possibility, but what about Colts being enthusiastic and on a hot winning streak?  When teams are on a winning streak, they don't like to let down.  They feed off wins and wanna keep winning.

2) Flacco is going to torch the Colts secondary.  I am looking forward to seeing that before I can believe it.  Flacco couldn't torch the Browns secondary which put close to zero pressure on him.  Colts have a very good pass rush and decent corners.  Ravens receivers are amongst the slowest in the NFL.  Mason can run routes as good as anyone out there, but he's getting old and doesn't represent a deep threat.  We are not talking about Tom Brady and Randy Moss here.

3) Colts are not in a must-win situation, while Ravens are.  So what?  Do you seriously believe Payton Manning is going to serve the Baltimore the game on a silver platter just because they need to win?  Colts haven't clinched the AFC home field advantage yet, and every win will get them closer to that goal.  Only then - maybe - will they start looking ahead to the playoffs.

All in all, I believe this line is low because of the must-win situation for the Ravens and the Colts injuries.  Most people still believe the Ravens defense is still as good as it used to be, when in reality they are older and have a couple of key injuries as well.

If there is anything I've learned about Manning over the years I've been watching him play is that he's as good as anyone in preparing for games and giving 100% effort.  He's a great competitor who's been leading its team to 18 consecutive victories.  Eight-fucking-teen.  3 shy of Brady's & Pats record of 21.  Hear that?  I am sure Payton and the Colts have that record in the back of their minds.  Colts vs Patriots has been the most heated rivalry of the last 10 years, Payton vs Tom, Belichick vs Payton, etc.  Now close your eyes and try to yourself into Payton's shoes just for one second:  wouldn't you want to get that streak to 22 and beat New England record?  You are just 3 wins shy of making history.

And from a purely technical standpoint, I can't see how this Ravens defense can stop the Colts.

To beat the Colts you have to play GREAT defense, force turnovers, and score lots of points.  Ah...don't forget time of possession.  Does Baltimore have a good running game?  Average at best.  Can Baltimore keep up with the Colts if they have to trail by double digits?  Just picture Baltimore down by 2 TDs.  How are they going to score quick points and keep the Colts scoreless at the same time?

I may be the biggest square in the world but honestly I couldn't care less.

If Payton and the Colts lay a goose egg and get demolished by the Ravens, so be it.

ditto.  the ole' sharp vs square paradigm.

As expected, the Pittsburgh defensive gameplan worked out nicely.  Denver's rushing offense was never allowed to click in, and Orton was forced to beat the Steelers secondary.  Although I believe Orton is pretty good in his short-range passing game, it's in those 3rd and long situations that the ability of a quarterback is tested.

Denver's defense was outstanding, I have to say that.  They did a hell of a job in the first 3 quarters keeping Denver in the game.  Problem was that Denver's offense couldn't get any points.

Denver is a good team as long as they aren't forced to play from behind.  Their offense is not structured to chase double digit deficit.

It slightly reminds of Miami, who is built on a great running game and lot of clock churning plays.  However, when they go down by DD deficit, they are forced to make big plays and they just don't have the personnel to do it.

Nice game last night, I enjoyed every bit of it.

Agree.  Those HFT programs provide liquidity to the market and help keep those spreads as narrow as possible.  Any intervention by the SEC to prohibit HFT and those spreads will immediately widen to insane levels.  I am sure this is not exactly what the Obama administration wants.  Higher spreads = higher volatility, which is not a good recipe for this ailing markets.

No venom at all, just quoting you on what you wrote earlier, that's all.

I am a futures daytrader but I don't do any type of high-freq trading nor do I use automated systems/black boxes/algos.  I trade off price action alone, no indicators just price and volume.

Now that you've clarified what you do, there is no chance in hell that I'd know your name even if you mentioned all of your patented softwares.

By the way, HFT has been the hot thing this year.  Goldman had all-time record quarters thanks to those infamous flash trades.  I now see why risk:reward means little to you since you are more focused on positive expectancy.

It does mean A LOT to me though because I have a different trading style than yours.

I am sorry if I came across as an impolite person, it's not something that usually happens to me.

Thanks for the invitations to the expos, but both towns are quite far away from Italy.

GL with your 30-0 quest.

it's funny because you were the one to bring your private business in here as if you needed some extra-proof to make yourself more credible and now you decide to leave business out of this thread.

i invited you to PM me and provide proof that you are not a BSer about your trading background and you suddenly refuse.

well guess what?  you just lost an opportunity to prove that what you say is no BS.

let's now see if now you come up with some other excuse to ditch the other fella you offered to take out on a drink.

GL with your streak.

Why do you have to get personal?  Did I get personal on you?  You seem to be a little cranky, hope you have a different attitude with trading.

I can assure you that I am not using your books nor strategies.  By the way, would you mind naming the books you have written?  You can PM me if you don't want to disclose the information publicly.