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replied to NOTRE DAME -6 $1,700 in College Basketball Farrell was awful. Not only did he turn the ball over, but he mirrored Princeton's tempo. Ahhh never bet on those sketchy Irish!!!!! View Post \| View Thread	OCwager	20	March 16, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball Thanks for this responses everyone Quote Originally Posted by Dsr_9: From what I have read/seen, they have a computer program that calculates the points per minute and aggregates it out in game. So if they are scoring at a 3.5 pt/min clip, it will compute that for in-game totals. This is interesting. I wonder, do they have a human watching every game that's being offered live or do they just let the program do it's thing w/ some games? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 07, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball ^^^to clarify, in my example i"m buying the under, in-game, at 158.5.^^ View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 06, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball So...let's say you make a habit out of getting the best possible number w/ in-game wagering. Is this something that will get you shut down w/ online books if you're putting a healthy size behind the bet? What about books in vegas, will-hill mobile etc? EX: o/u 140, in-game o/u rises to 159 and you get 158.5. Basically, is making a habit out of getting numbers really far from the original line gonna get you in trouble? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 06, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting the Senior Bowl. in College Football Thanks for the info, looking forward to learning. From what you've seen in the past, how do these teams try to move the ball on offense? Are they trying to get as many plays in as possible, or are they chewing clock huddling etc? Additionally, if a team is up by 2-3 TDs in the 4th quarter, do they keep playing hard and normal or do they try to get out of there? View Post \| View Thread	alopez14325	7	January 13, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Live betting O/U general thoughts in College Football This season I started with $800 and am now sitting with 24k after 5k withdrawn...98% of my bets came after the game started and about 70% was betting 1h unders. However, I netted a lot more in CFB and gave some back trying to use the same strategies in NFL games. Here are some things that helped me and what I learned to avoid: -The trend is your friend, in CFB only: College, keep pounding the under as it's going down if that is the clear trend. NFL, you generally fade the action...buy over after punts, under after TDs etc because you get a lot of sucker trends. -Isolate teams with bad offenses, inept QBs and lack of athletes who win games by controlling the clock and LOS. B1G, I'm looking at you. Muschamp, I'm looking at you. If you find a situation where a team can really only score 7-14 pts (Washington vs Alabama), that's where you want to hit some in-game full game unders. Only 1 team will be scoring, and the other team will kill clock in the 2h. -On that note, look for situations where it makes sense for teams to chill in the 2nd half. Ex: bowl games where one team is ahead by a lot, teams trying to avoid injury, teams trying to avoid an embarrassing blowout. Try to find spots where offenses shrink the playbook and don't look to stretch the field. -Bad weather games in CFB, the weather is more impactful on the score than NFL. NFL QBs have rocket arms and can cut through the wind easier, while some of these poor college QBs just do not have enough arm strength to throw it downfield in a gale force Hurricane Matthew situation. On that note, use your eyes in those bad weather games. If the field is a swamp and no one can get their footing, it's a good time to hit the in-game under EVERY CHANCE you get. You'd be surprised to see how many times the books don't adjust their in-game spreads...for example in the ND-NC St game they were giving me normal o/u the entire first half while the field was a swamp w/ 30 mph winds. All of those Hurricane Matthew games in gale force winds, they didn't adjust the in-game o/u numbers. Amazed me. -The 2 min drill makes betting 1h unders VERY tough in the NFL unless you get it at a really good price. NFL coaches get so concerned about scoring and preventing a TD that clock management and D gets biased to the offensive side. I can't tell you how many times I got a bad price on a 1h under and seeing NFL teams score 10-14 pts in the final 2 minutes. They rarely just kill the clock with 1-2 min left in 1h like college teams do, because even the worst NFL QB can sling it down the field. -If you bet the under and see that the Run Ds suck, too much cushion for WRs etc, keep your loss to 1-2 bets. The goal is to hammer and hammer solid trends, while minimizing bets when it's clear your judgement was wrong and the Ds are soft. I'm wrong often, just with fewer bets. -Pick one or two days, and make a conscious effort to make ZERO bets to help build self-discipline. When I had good days I almost always gave a little back the next day getting my money in really thin situations. -For me it's easier to see disparities in CFB as opposed to NFL. NFL I gotta get too deep into match ups...CFB just watch the LOS for the most part and go with that trend. -DO NOT CHASE lines in NFL! That's the best way to give your money back on Sunday, lol. Teams are too professional and QBs are too good for massive trend betting. Good luck next season and manage your bankroll well! View Post \| View Thread	Learning	4	January 13, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cal +3.5 @ ASU in College Football This one will probably be available for in-game wagers. I'd rather wait and look for opportunities w/ the o/u. 80 is a number that suggests there will be volatility w/ in-game o/u. View Post \| View Thread	TheBlindDog	10	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Stanford Vs UCLA in College Football Stanford. But I'm like, 0-97 when I bet on Mora's UCLA, so I may be a bit tilted. View Post \| View Thread	ChickMagnut	96	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to 7-3 last week (some FSU thoughts) in College Football Thanks for the commentary. I was wondering why they didn't give #9 more carries...he looked like a size mismatch that FSU never took advantage of, and could have helped slowed the game down. Defense just did not look well prepared. Though that seems to be the pattern when the QB is dual-threat :( View Post \| View Thread	Billycool	6	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to USCe @ Kentucky -2.5, 56.5 in College Football I like the under as well. I don't love how USCe is batting 1.000 on unders thus far, yet it's still 56.5. Seems like square city. But Kentucky's defense has been terrible so far, & this is a spot where they should give a more inspired effort while not being athletically overwhelmed. + Muschamp being so defensive minded on offense in multiple game situations. View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic USCe @ Kentucky -2.5, 56.5 in College Football Anyone have a strong opinion on this one? Specifically interested in the o/u... View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cavs/Raptors total in NBA Betting I got a position in-game TOR 95 under. Shoulda added at 97...the pace is sooooo sloooow. View Post \| View Thread	mellow_wolf	8	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cavs allowed to win! in NBA Betting Need to see Cavs D in the 2nd half before reaching that conclusion. View Post \| View Thread	GreenBook	6	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Be very cautious in NBA Betting Quote Originally Posted by fitchris562: Up 2 G's this week and your post has me convinced to lay off OKC. Already won huge on OKC (my huge at least in game 4 ) They'll probably still roll but the rigged NBA is a fact and I don't need to get smacked in the face with this story book ending from the NBA. Thanks for the post! I'm in the same camp. Hammered OKC and hammered in-game GSW unders in 3 and 4. No need to force the action unless I see GSW quit, in game... View Post \| View Thread	TreyB1	24	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cleveland -9 1/2 on 5Dimes in NBA Betting No action for me, unless TOR begins to quit in the 2nd half. Then I'll hammer TOR's in-game under. No need to force the action tonight before the game starts. All four of these teams do a good job letting you know early in the game who wants it more... View Post \| View Thread	DukeBlueDevil89	9	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Arkansas lollll in College Basketball These guys look disinterested View Post \| View Thread	CaliPicks	2	March 19, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to F--K BYU!!!!!!!! in College Football I overrated this QB. He's too slow in making his progressions when he throws the football, and he doesn't like to pull the trigger throwing it downfield. Great runner though. Houston has some good athletes. They played well. View Post \| View Thread	Grandtheftauto4	5	September 12, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
replied to LT v NT in College Football How do these teams play on offense? Specifically, do they play uptempo, slow and methodical, or somewhere in between? View Post \| View Thread	AlligatorWax420	7	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Vegas sportsbooks with live CFB odds? in Las Vegas Primarily interested in sportsbooks that offer odds for thursday night and saturday games. Are there any located on the strip? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Arkansas +2 in College Football I prefer the +2 as opposed to ML. While I see ARK winning comfortably, TTECH could have the psychological advantage if the razorbacks don't put it away, and game came down to the wire. Some teams have difficulties figuring out how to win close games, and ARK still needs to prove themselves on this front IMO. View Post \| View Thread	jmyane	67	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread

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replied to NOTRE DAME -6 $1,700 in College Basketball Farrell was awful. Not only did he turn the ball over, but he mirrored Princeton's tempo. Ahhh never bet on those sketchy Irish!!!!! View Post \| View Thread	OCwager	20	March 16, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball Thanks for this responses everyone Quote Originally Posted by Dsr_9: From what I have read/seen, they have a computer program that calculates the points per minute and aggregates it out in game. So if they are scoring at a 3.5 pt/min clip, it will compute that for in-game totals. This is interesting. I wonder, do they have a human watching every game that's being offered live or do they just let the program do it's thing w/ some games? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 07, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball ^^^to clarify, in my example i"m buying the under, in-game, at 158.5.^^ View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 06, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic How long will they let you get away with getting the best in-game wagering numbers? in College Basketball So...let's say you make a habit out of getting the best possible number w/ in-game wagering. Is this something that will get you shut down w/ online books if you're putting a healthy size behind the bet? What about books in vegas, will-hill mobile etc? EX: o/u 140, in-game o/u rises to 159 and you get 158.5. Basically, is making a habit out of getting numbers really far from the original line gonna get you in trouble? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	8	March 06, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Betting the Senior Bowl. in College Football Thanks for the info, looking forward to learning. From what you've seen in the past, how do these teams try to move the ball on offense? Are they trying to get as many plays in as possible, or are they chewing clock huddling etc? Additionally, if a team is up by 2-3 TDs in the 4th quarter, do they keep playing hard and normal or do they try to get out of there? View Post \| View Thread	alopez14325	7	January 13, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Live betting O/U general thoughts in College Football This season I started with $800 and am now sitting with 24k after 5k withdrawn...98% of my bets came after the game started and about 70% was betting 1h unders. However, I netted a lot more in CFB and gave some back trying to use the same strategies in NFL games. Here are some things that helped me and what I learned to avoid: -The trend is your friend, in CFB only: College, keep pounding the under as it's going down if that is the clear trend. NFL, you generally fade the action...buy over after punts, under after TDs etc because you get a lot of sucker trends. -Isolate teams with bad offenses, inept QBs and lack of athletes who win games by controlling the clock and LOS. B1G, I'm looking at you. Muschamp, I'm looking at you. If you find a situation where a team can really only score 7-14 pts (Washington vs Alabama), that's where you want to hit some in-game full game unders. Only 1 team will be scoring, and the other team will kill clock in the 2h. -On that note, look for situations where it makes sense for teams to chill in the 2nd half. Ex: bowl games where one team is ahead by a lot, teams trying to avoid injury, teams trying to avoid an embarrassing blowout. Try to find spots where offenses shrink the playbook and don't look to stretch the field. -Bad weather games in CFB, the weather is more impactful on the score than NFL. NFL QBs have rocket arms and can cut through the wind easier, while some of these poor college QBs just do not have enough arm strength to throw it downfield in a gale force Hurricane Matthew situation. On that note, use your eyes in those bad weather games. If the field is a swamp and no one can get their footing, it's a good time to hit the in-game under EVERY CHANCE you get. You'd be surprised to see how many times the books don't adjust their in-game spreads...for example in the ND-NC St game they were giving me normal o/u the entire first half while the field was a swamp w/ 30 mph winds. All of those Hurricane Matthew games in gale force winds, they didn't adjust the in-game o/u numbers. Amazed me. -The 2 min drill makes betting 1h unders VERY tough in the NFL unless you get it at a really good price. NFL coaches get so concerned about scoring and preventing a TD that clock management and D gets biased to the offensive side. I can't tell you how many times I got a bad price on a 1h under and seeing NFL teams score 10-14 pts in the final 2 minutes. They rarely just kill the clock with 1-2 min left in 1h like college teams do, because even the worst NFL QB can sling it down the field. -If you bet the under and see that the Run Ds suck, too much cushion for WRs etc, keep your loss to 1-2 bets. The goal is to hammer and hammer solid trends, while minimizing bets when it's clear your judgement was wrong and the Ds are soft. I'm wrong often, just with fewer bets. -Pick one or two days, and make a conscious effort to make ZERO bets to help build self-discipline. When I had good days I almost always gave a little back the next day getting my money in really thin situations. -For me it's easier to see disparities in CFB as opposed to NFL. NFL I gotta get too deep into match ups...CFB just watch the LOS for the most part and go with that trend. -DO NOT CHASE lines in NFL! That's the best way to give your money back on Sunday, lol. Teams are too professional and QBs are too good for massive trend betting. Good luck next season and manage your bankroll well! View Post \| View Thread	Learning	4	January 13, 2017 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cal +3.5 @ ASU in College Football This one will probably be available for in-game wagers. I'd rather wait and look for opportunities w/ the o/u. 80 is a number that suggests there will be volatility w/ in-game o/u. View Post \| View Thread	TheBlindDog	10	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Stanford Vs UCLA in College Football Stanford. But I'm like, 0-97 when I bet on Mora's UCLA, so I may be a bit tilted. View Post \| View Thread	ChickMagnut	96	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to 7-3 last week (some FSU thoughts) in College Football Thanks for the commentary. I was wondering why they didn't give #9 more carries...he looked like a size mismatch that FSU never took advantage of, and could have helped slowed the game down. Defense just did not look well prepared. Though that seems to be the pattern when the QB is dual-threat :( View Post \| View Thread	Billycool	6	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to USCe @ Kentucky -2.5, 56.5 in College Football I like the under as well. I don't love how USCe is batting 1.000 on unders thus far, yet it's still 56.5. Seems like square city. But Kentucky's defense has been terrible so far, & this is a spot where they should give a more inspired effort while not being athletically overwhelmed. + Muschamp being so defensive minded on offense in multiple game situations. View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic USCe @ Kentucky -2.5, 56.5 in College Football Anyone have a strong opinion on this one? Specifically interested in the o/u... View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 20, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cavs/Raptors total in NBA Betting I got a position in-game TOR 95 under. Shoulda added at 97...the pace is sooooo sloooow. View Post \| View Thread	mellow_wolf	8	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cavs allowed to win! in NBA Betting Need to see Cavs D in the 2nd half before reaching that conclusion. View Post \| View Thread	GreenBook	6	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Be very cautious in NBA Betting Quote Originally Posted by fitchris562: Up 2 G's this week and your post has me convinced to lay off OKC. Already won huge on OKC (my huge at least in game 4 ) They'll probably still roll but the rigged NBA is a fact and I don't need to get smacked in the face with this story book ending from the NBA. Thanks for the post! I'm in the same camp. Hammered OKC and hammered in-game GSW unders in 3 and 4. No need to force the action unless I see GSW quit, in game... View Post \| View Thread	TreyB1	24	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Cleveland -9 1/2 on 5Dimes in NBA Betting No action for me, unless TOR begins to quit in the 2nd half. Then I'll hammer TOR's in-game under. No need to force the action tonight before the game starts. All four of these teams do a good job letting you know early in the game who wants it more... View Post \| View Thread	DukeBlueDevil89	9	May 27, 2016 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Arkansas lollll in College Basketball These guys look disinterested View Post \| View Thread	CaliPicks	2	March 19, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to F--K BYU!!!!!!!! in College Football I overrated this QB. He's too slow in making his progressions when he throws the football, and he doesn't like to pull the trigger throwing it downfield. Great runner though. Houston has some good athletes. They played well. View Post \| View Thread	Grandtheftauto4	5	September 12, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
replied to LT v NT in College Football How do these teams play on offense? Specifically, do they play uptempo, slow and methodical, or somewhere in between? View Post \| View Thread	AlligatorWax420	7	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Vegas sportsbooks with live CFB odds? in Las Vegas Primarily interested in sportsbooks that offer odds for thursday night and saturday games. Are there any located on the strip? View Post \| View Thread	Learning	3	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Arkansas +2 in College Football I prefer the +2 as opposed to ML. While I see ARK winning comfortably, TTECH could have the psychological advantage if the razorbacks don't put it away, and game came down to the wire. Some teams have difficulties figuring out how to win close games, and ARK still needs to prove themselves on this front IMO. View Post \| View Thread	jmyane	67	September 11, 2014 View Post \| View Thread

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