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Fsu is absolutely right, would have to be 100k plus put in play per week. Out in vegas if you wager at the same sportsbook regularly they consider you a big customer if you are wagering 250k plus per week. Friend of mine worked in Caesar's Palace book about 4 years ago and said it is very common to see people wager 50k + on a nightly basis. |
oli_renaud91 | 5 |
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DRevisHaSU | 8 |
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Sent you a friend request. |
Mycro22 | 2 |
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I sent you a friend request
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Chevyts2018 | 4 |
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playlive | 9 |
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rms8325 | 9 |
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danirae | 2 |
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Tell us a little more about the situation. |
smithy69 | 8 |
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This whole thread is like a bad gambling novel. Hope everyone pays or gets paid. Good luck....... |
BET THE HOOK | 64 |
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I'm a firm believer everyone is addicted to something. Some people have food, some shop, some are facebook addicts, religion addicts etc.. People lump addiction to what people consider "bad" or morally wrong normally. Strip club addiction, sex/porn addiction, gambling addiction etc.. Gambling is fine for 95 percent of people. They have fun do it and move on. The other 5 percent may or do become compulsive. I'm sure someone is studying why that is. The strange thing I've found is lots of people I know and would consider compulsive gamblers are upstanding members of the community and have a good career. One friend of mine blows every extra dollar he has on gambling to the tune of high five digits every year. He has a 6 figure job and gets huge bonuses that are spent before he even gets them on credit card related gambling debt. I'd be the first to say if I don't watch it I become a compulsive gambler. Been there done that. Betting games every night, some I had no idea about just to have "action". Thinking at work about who is playing that night and what my "play" was going to be etc.. Not a healthy place to be mentally for anyone. If it feels dirty or you are ashamed of it something is off and you should stop. Your "inner voice" or whatever you want to call it normally steers you in the right direction when it comes to these things... Good luck whatever you decide... |
MIZUNO22 | 14 |
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Ratpack, If you are dealing with people on credit people are going to screw you over. If you were a college kid its half his fault in my opinion. Sounds like he let you get in way too deep. I'd say 60-70 % of gamblers screw someone over at some point if they are allowed credit they can't financially handle. Water under the bridge for him I'm sure. Wrote that off long ago... The ones that piss them off are those that they pay then when they lose they run... Books take that personally |
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I agree the site is basically a glorified escort service. I'm sure there are a few real women on there. Hell of a concept man. They probably have a lifetime movie about this scenario. I see 3 main problems though... 1) It's not like you have video of them banging you or anyone else for that matter. 2) How is she going to sneak out large sums of money like that? Gonna take credit cards? 3) Jail or six feet under is a likely outcome. This scenario works best the other way around. Like if someone is ducking you for some money and its worth it, hire a hooker to seduce them video the deed and then use it as leverage to get paid. The beauty of that scenario is they are fucked either way. They go to the cops, hey guess what wifey finds out about the hooker tape. Women aren't gonna care if they were setup. Or they decide not to pay you probably an expensive divorce. Nothing like ruining someones life for being a deadbeat in my opinion. |
HoldEm00 | 17 |
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Here's a thought, maybe your bookie is running out of money and wants to make sure he can pay everyone who wins? I know it's a strange concept for most but not all locals have infinite pools of money. Most that are cutting your limits are probably running low on funds or have people that have stiffed them for large balances or are paying bits at a time. A book can be ruined by lack of cash flow. Lots of locals shut down for baseball because it's not worth being open anymore. A book with 50 football players might drop down to 8-10 for baseball season. If you think that sounds crazy just ask your guy, he will tell you. Taking bets from that small group is basically gambling on their end as most likely they would have an open position on every game. Bookies that gamble like that won't be in business long... Also of that 8-10 probably 30-40 percent have a winning week as baseball is hard to beat, so you do the math, tough to squeak out some cash there. And everyone pays on time and in full in the 60-70% yeah right... GL Mike |
ballerbooboo | 26 |
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Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:
The biggest drain on our health care system is the soda/fast food/alcohol We all know Marijuana isn't half as bad as alcohol so it should be legalized and profited from just like alcohol. The old conservative shrivs are dying off and maybe in a hundred years it will be legal Solid post there Dillon. Obesity kills/harms more people every year in the US than drugs ever thought about doing. Food and overeating act the same way as an addictive drug for lots of people, the results just take a little longer to develop most of the time. I don't think we should legalize hard core drugs like crack or meth but I think that firing someone who smokes weed is ridiculous unless they are doing it at work. Many employers have banned smoking on premises and I don't know of too many that allow alcohol consumption unless its part of your business(bar, brewery, etc..) The sad part is it is obesity is getting much worse. Kids that are at a healthy weight is no longer the norm especially in lower income areas. Healthcare costs are going to drain our economy and the average persons bank accounts slowly. GL Mike |
Randisist | 25 |
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I know there are services that will submit your Hilton NFL Supercontest picks for you in person since that's the only way they take them. Maybe look one of them up and give them a shot? |
JackSmack | 5 |
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
You don't give up do you.
First, you said the book wanted interest on the money, which I pointed out was less than a dollar.
Then, you said the playoffs might somehow end before the next round.
Now, you are saying " Sportsbooks are a business and business people like guaranteed money not possible money. ."
Every bet the book take is "possible" money If they wanted gauranteed money they'd open a bank, and not take bets. The more bets they take, the more money they make, which is why they would want to settle with the OP so he can make more bets.
And "Now my operators that should be taking bets are arguing with people about settling a wager that is going to win but the event hasn't actually happened...."
This is not about settling a bet that hasn't won. The OP has won his bet (unless the NHL playoffs are cancelled). If you are saying this about a guy wanting to get paid when his team is up 3 games to 0, then that is a totally different situation. We are talking about a situation where the OP win the same amount no matter what happens.
And if settling futures early is something gamblers want (which you admitted), why wouldn't the book accomodate this, to get more action? Or are going to say the books don't want more action, because they don't want to take more phone calls?
Give up? You bashed my first post chiming in with your opinion so no I'm just responding to your posts. Discussion is over on my end, thanks for the nuggets of wisdom since you are an expert on how to handle situations of rule changes at sportsbooks. Which one do you run again? |
Grizzvir | 51 |
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Have you seen interest rates lately? They are going to get around 75 cents interest in the 2 weeks it takes to play this round of the playoffs. So, on the one hand you have 75 cents, and on the other you have a really good chance the OP will wager this money at 10% juice.
Thorpe, Thanks for the feedback and lesson on interest rates. Sportsbooks are a business and business people like guaranteed money not possible money. Run your own business for awhile you will understand. I'd imagine this guy plays future bets quite a bit based on his post. The problem is now every time he has a future bet that is going to win he's going to call the sportsbook and ask for it to be settled early. It is bad business to bend rules period especially when it involves gambling. If they do it now everyone on covers.com and this guys buddies that gamble know that at sportsbook xyz will settle future wagers early. Think that might cause an issue? Now my operators that should be taking bets are arguing with people about settling a wager that is going to win but the event hasn't actually happened....
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Grizzvir | 51 |
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Why? The sooner the futures is settled, the sooner the money will be wagered again. Why wouldn't the book want that?
A couple of reasons. 1) Who says the money is going to be wagered again? Guy could request the full amount and take it out of the book. I'd rather hang on to it as long as I can and earn interest. 2) What if neither team wins the wager as stated? It is possible although extremely unlikely. |
Grizzvir | 51 |
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I'd be surprised if they let you.
Not a precedent they want to set, settling futures wagers early.
GL
Mike
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Grizzvir | 51 |
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Lets face the facts man who doesn't like a milf? Win some lose some |
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