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is there anyone out there that could tell me the formula used to
convert a point spread into a possible moneyline...example(-3.5 spread
= -170 or so on the moneyline)....???
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mmstinson98 | 1 |
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Quote Originally Posted by geoffrey: if your confident that the teams selected have a clear and
definite advantage in there match-ups this week,why not this many??
they only need to win the game.NO POINT SPREAD TO WORRY ABOUT.Why do you have to select so many teams?
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mmstinson98 | 10 |
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dolphins do not have the offensive firepower that the giants
have.furthermore the o-line is a joke.ware and company will have a
field day.as far as the giants go NO MANNING no chance against a good
packer defense..i don't think i have to say anything about the giants
defense,or lack there of..the lions offense will look nothing like the
falcons offense(non-existent)..the lions will divide and conquer that
defense.add to that the viking offense only accounted for 10 of the 24
points...LIONS ROAR in this home division game...
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mmstinson98 | 10 |
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What do y'all think about this?
Bengals over Browns Packers over Giants Saints over Bucs Lions over Vikings Cowboys over Dolphins Bears over Chiefs Jaguars over Falcons Steelers over Bills $1000 for undertermined amount |
mmstinson98 | 10 |
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there will be no camera man on the sideline for this one either(stealing signals)..
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DC@510 | 14 |
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i've noticed a difference of 12 to 20 pts. in the lines of beted when
compared to the lines of vegas sportsbooks...IS THIS NORMAL???or common
practice...
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mmstinson98 | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by archdriver: beliefs are called into question 24/7 365 by
most people.from your most devout christians to athiast...what's your
point??no matter how Mother Theresa was veiwed,she was no more or less
human than the rest of us.thus subjet to the same pitfalls as the rest
of us.that includes questioning her faith...No one acknowledges my
comment that Mother Teresa had deep
doubts aboout the existence of God and that of Jesus.
this stayed with her for 10 yrs or more.
so, if Mother Teresa cant quite
focus in and doesnt get a return call......
How could Vick ????
or for that matter, some of
our religous posters who seem so certain
of God's agenda.
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Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe: it's good to know C.P.R. still
works.you had me worried for a second....let me wipe the sweat off my
brow,i'll return a bit later ..peaceDon't worry my friend you didn't scare me off.I started to write a response,but just decided to let it go.I wasn't trying to debate some tired,old retread subject.I am sick of all the Vick talk,and don't even read most of the threads regarding the man.It is not an important issue to me.Obviously I think he's a disgusting human being who was out of his mind for doing the things he did.That being said,What the fuck can he do?He has hopefully been completely humbeled by this and can pay for his actions and move on.I'm not sure what this thread was all about or what you want to debate,but as far as Vick, I'll just let it play out. |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe: don't tell me! as usual,you
have nothing of substance to add?don't let me scare you off bro.i love
this kind of back and forth conversation.i love to play the devil's
advocate,but you obviously stand for nothing but bullshit...Thanks that's much better.By the way if I am interested in the conversation or have something to say that hasn't been said then I will add something. |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe: then why are you not only reading,but responding to the thread??Thanks that's much better.By the way if I am interested in the conversation or have something to say that hasn't been said then I will add something. |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe: You know,you never have anything thoughful to add to the conversation.Just an ANNOYING comment.What school did you go to where they taught that under no circumstances no matter what shall you ever capitalize a word to begin a sentence?JESUS CHRIST that's annoying. |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by PocketJacks: i beleive it is most of you saying the man should (burn in
hell),(be disgraced in the worse way a MAN could be in prison).you
people have reacted to this situation as if vick is the ANTI-CHRIST. it
makes no sense to me.to me you people have no eyes to look into on a
daily basis.if you did you would not be so judgemental and unforgiving.Easy there Father Nelson, didn't realize you were the one deciding who goes where when they die. Take it easy, I will find some alter boys for you to play with. |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Texan: reading into your statements here.i can tell
you are GUILTY of more than a few transgressions in your lifetime.being
forgiven is impossible.so vick will be sitting right next to you IN
HELL, don't think so,he has at least admitted to his wrong doing and
humbled himself.albiet in the face of controversy and scrutiny beyond
anything you will ever understand. i can see it right now, THE MICHAEL
VICK STORY,from DOGFGHTER to TOP DOG(SUPER BOWL CHAMPION).as a QB.the
ultimate story of redemption.not likely,but it would kinda be like ALI
when he was HATED by the MAJORITY of america......circumstances were
somewhat different,but not much.....Always at rock bottom.. I am
NOT rich by any stretch of the imagination, but my job has allowed me
to be near some very rich people. NONE of them every seem to find God
when they are making millions, doing cocaine off a strippers tits, and
drinking Louis XIII from crystal snifters. Let their stocks crash or
get busted by the cops and suddenly POOF ! I love God.
Howabout this...there is a legal loophole that Vick will get
off, NFL lets him back... doesn't have to pay a dime other than legal
fees. YOU THINK GOD IS GOING TO STICK ?
Hell NO ! he will grow those corn rows back out, and be in a strip
club getting lap dances from a person named Lexus by the end of the
week.
I am not bagging religion at all, but please ....please for the
love of God find it when you don't need it, not when you are facing 18
months in jail and losing $100,000,000 in endorsements, salary, legal
fees and signing bonuses.
He will be praying to God when those big thugs in
"da house" make him their bitch. You know those hard fuckers are
looking forward to those bragging rights.
Mike .. you should get what you deserve a life in a kennel ended
by a fight to the death with one of your co defendants. And then
drowned or hung like you did for fun when the worth of the dogs life
ran out.
Piece of shit ! Burn in Hell.
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Mikael99 | 61 |
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when YOU decide to do something,do YOU not intend to take on any
and all consequences of that decision .everyone knows that
driving while intoxicated can end in death,if not you then someone
else.if mr little took out your mother,daughter,sister,etc..would it
matter if it were INTENTIONAL OR NOT.the fact of the matter is
Mr.Little made a poor decision,and paid for it by serving 3 months in
jail and a 8 game suspension.DO YOU TRULY BELEIVE THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR
THE FAMILY AFFECTED BY HIS BAD DECISION.these were dogs.is what vick
did intentional?YES.is what vick did DISTURBING?yes.but by no means
should he not be forgiven if it's alright to forgive people for crimes
against humanity.
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Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984: did he get behind the wheel on purpose,or was it
by accident?he knew that he was impaired,yet he did it anyway.just
because the MAJORITY of us decide to get behind the wheel impaired,and
get away with it does not make it less outrageous,and should not be
more acceptable than dogfighting.when Mr.Little knowingly got behind
that wheel he knowingly accepted any and all consequences of that
DECISION.he has for the most part been forgiven .HE KILLED A INNOCENT
HUMAN BEING.yet it seems like you're trying to make it more
acceptable.michael vick FUCKED UP GOOD,but it is not worse than what
leonard little did or the other countless felons walking the streets
free.MOST OF YOU JACKASSES WANT TO SEND THE MAN TO MARS,and for
what?MICHAEL VICK DESERVES THE SAME CHANCE TO REDEEM HIMSELF AS THE
REST OF US GUILTY OF FUCKIN UP.none of you can go look in mirror and
say,I'M GUILTY OF DOING NOTHING WRONG IN MY LIFETIME.if you can,you're
living on the wrong planet...Small minds often need a helping hand. m-whatever-98: Did Mr.Little deliberately go out to kill that woman? did he get behind the wheel with the intentionality of not only aiming to act (drive) in such a way as to result in the death of another living being, but to have people profit off that death? I think you would find if the answer was yes to these questions - as they are in Mr.Vick's instance - then people would have a much different attitude to Mr.Little. But that wasn't Mr.Little's intentions. What the public see in Mr.Little's instance is "there but for the grace of God go I", since so many of the masses choose to drink (to whatever degree) then drive. If anything, Mr.Little invites sympathy. What so many of the masses dont do is bred dogs so they can't fight other dogs on the way to a painful death - its quite the opposite: many of the masses own dogs as family pets and as such view them with great love. therefore their perception of this event is naturally quite different to their relating to Mr.Little's event. You are comparing apples & oranges, and in so doing expect to somehow score points for the incongruency you're seemly revealing, when in fact you're only revealing the extent of your ignorance. Is it a good thing Mr.Little killed a woman while drunk? No. Does his sentence seem short in light of his actions? yes it does - I wouldn't be happy as the parent of the woman killed seeing her accidental killer serve such a short sentence. Is there any comparison of intentionality between Mr.Little & Mr.Vick's actions? None whatsoever.
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Mikael99 | 61 |
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NEVER done anything wrong! you mean to tell me there is ANOTHER
flawlless human being living amongst us.oh! i'm sorry,most of you are
clear of ANY wrong doing in your lifetime.i guess i truly just don't
get it.obviously the MAJORITY of you are PERFECT and would like to rid
the world of us mistake prone human beings.YOU ALL SHOULD MAKE A CALL
TO UNDERDOG.HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP..
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Mikael99 | 61 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99: ... On so Vick have people writing his statements now... he
have now found Jesus... for crying out loud. That seems to be the standard
excuse now a days... i found Jesus and i am sorry sorry sorry. "Vick also said he was sorry "to all the young
kids out there for my immature acts." "What I did was very immature so that means I need to grow up," he
said. He said that he was "disappointed in myself" and that "dog
fighting is a terrible thing and I ... reject it." He said, "Through this situation I've found Jesus." Well let's look at it like this folks... If your neighbor hated your DOG and one day you came out and it was strung up by it's ankles bleeding from the throat... you would be upset and even angry to the point of POSSIBLY seeking revenge....NOW If that was your daughter or son on their way home from prom having a good time SOBER obeying the laws that whomever has set forth then BOOM out of nowhere here comes Leonard Little DRUNK out of his mind and KILLS your daughter or your son and then what?? He gets 3 months in Jail and suspended for eight FUCKING games... Seriously?? Come on now! He is living the DREAM that most of us if not our children dream of DAILY!! Be serious. Would you rather your child be murdered or you DOG??????? And if you HAD to choose which would you? |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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I guess no one here has EVER done ANYTHING WRONG on any level,
and felt bad about it...and asked for forgiveness. Or maybe you did ask and did
not receive it the way you thought you should. Perhaps that's the reason for
the feeling of indifference about what happened today. The man seemed very
sincere in his apology about the HORRIBLE acts he took part in towards dogs.
Leonard Little killed a woman (a HUMAN BEING) while drunk behind the wheel. She
was as (if not more) defenseless as the dogs, yet Leonard got 3 MONTHS IN JAIL
and suspended for only 8 games!! I guess it's better to be a DOG in this
country than a HUMAN BEING! |
Mikael99 | 61 |
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week-3. both defenses weak against the pass and
mobile quarterbacks.if mother nature agrees this will go OVER(35) to
much speed and pride with both offenses to be shut down by these
mediorcre defenses..
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Mr_Covers | 19 |
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2 much turnover in both secondarys.need i say more.OVER (36.5).
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