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@JimboSlice01

 I agree with you that tough throws and forcing turnovers are their way to victory. Touché on the Harrison point with last year’s game that occurred in South Bend. Who would have thought that Kyle McCord blew at Ohio State and went off at Syracuse? 

Should be a great game! Hopefully it isn’t lol. We are on opposite sides of the gambling tickets but I look forward to continued banter. Thanks for responding and having a civil debate about the game. A lot of mo mo’s on here are outrageous.

The only thing on this game is I hope you get a backdoor cover so I’m not sweating it out. ??. Enjoy the game bro!

@JimboSlice01

 Hey Jimbo,

I respect the fact that you have been on Notre Dame since the opening line. I believe you are more on the fact that ND will cover but not win. Correct me if I’m wrong on that.

I just don’t see many facets of the game where Notre Dame has an advantage and can exploit Ohio State. What WR do they have to cause pressure down the field? Riley Leonard is average to below average at best skill wise. He does run the ball extremely well and has a lot of intangibles that make him a very good college QB.

I believe Notre Dame’s defense will keep them in this game as long as they can but eventually the defense will get worn down. Whether it’s Egbuka and possession targets, Smith down the field, Junkins with tough running in the red zone and between the tackles, Henderson doing a little bit of everything; Notre Dame has A LOT of things to worry about especially when they play a ton of man and Cover 1. 

Jeremiah Smith will be targeted early and often. There is no way he’s going to have 1 catch for 3 yards in the Title Game. 

Now my respected questions to you are, “What type of game do you see Notre Dame winning? How would the flow have to go in order for the upset to occur?”

I have a +155 ticket at -375 right now. I feel confident about the situation that I’m in. 

I have decided that I am going to let it ride. I believe Ohio State is the better team with more talent. They have an offensive scheme where big time talent can take over. The only way they lose is if they are conservative, run the ball on first down, and don’t play with tempo at some point. 

This game could be close for a while but I believe the best unit in the game (The Buckeye Defense) will hold Notre Dame to under 20 points. Ohio State 24-13.

@TRAIN69

 Hi Train and Jimbo,

Obviously a TRUE Hedge is to take Notre Dame with the ML. I don’t think they are going to win the game. I believe Ohio State will win the game. 

I can absolutely take ND ML and watch a game coming out with $500 plus as profit.

I can also take ND with the points. Hopefully that number climbs. It’s at 8.5. 

Lastly, I can also “live bet” if Ohio State gets out to a 7-0 lead. Maybe get ND at +15.5 or +500. 

I am still deciding on what to do. I appreciate your comments and time answering my question. I’ll let you know my decision when it’s made. 

Thanks fellas.

Hello All,

I took FanDuel “QF Winner” Tennessee/Ohio State/Oregon for $600 at +155.

It would pay $1530 for a $930 profit if Ohio State wins.

Right now the line is ND +8.5 -114 on FanDuel with a +285 on the ML.

Would you let it ride, take ND plus the points to try to middle and sweep both, OR take ND on the ML for a guaranteed profit?

You might be better off taking $100 and ML Parlay Oregon and Georgia to win their QF Matchup. That pays +275. You’d be at $375.

Then do it one more time (if you get there) and you’d probably get 3-1 odds again most likely against Texas and Penn State. That would get you to around $1,100….

OR You throw out your wager at 16-1 to have Oregon beat Georgia. 

Oregon playing Georgia is +960 on FanDuel (though my first explanation probably pays higher). Oregon at +480 to win it seems like great value as well.

Georgia has a great road. The books think Texas and Penn State are going to get there. Wild! 

Everything I think about Texas is “can they win the line of scrimmage?” Against Georgia they cannot and they lost twice. Against ASU, most likely they do and they end up covering. I think Arizona State can hang with them BUT Texas is a force to be reckoned with when they dominate the trenches. I personally think Texas is OVERRATED and Ewers is mediocre. I’m staying away from this one but if I had to, I’d take Texas.

Boise is coming to play in this one. Oregon tore up PSU, and Boise will try to get this into a shootout EARLY. Jeanty and long drives in the second half. Gotta prove they can score with Penn State. Boise 35-31.

Oregon a 3.5 home dog and now a 2.5 neutral site dog to Ohio State? Something doesn’t make sense. Oregon wins and covers. They can play ANY style and win. I trust Gabriel with quick hitters, a nice deep ball and two good backs over Howard. Ohio State has the better skill players BUT Oregon finds a way 38-35.

Georgia plays ND. Low scoring blood bath and Georgia grinds em down. Both QB’s BLOW!

Hello All,

The hate and nasty remarks towards two people who give their opinions on college football games is beyond belief.

There are many times where I don’t agree with the side they pick. That being said, even if I don’t like their choice; they ALWAYS have valid points for liking their sides. 

Not many pick games at a 100 percent clip last time I checked. I firmly disagree with their principle of Bowl Betting except for the playoffs. They prove me wrong and win at a high clip on meaningless bowl games. My priority is not to wager them since I have no interest in them. So I don’t. 

To me it’s like anything else. Look at what they have to say or don’t. Don’t blindly tail these guys and expect a W. Then when you don’t get one, you blame them. Any person on here who blindly tails anyone shouldn’t be sports betting.

Wahoo and Train are two of the most knowledgeable college football information bettors on this Forum. I hope you guys keep winning and I look forward to reading/debating your thoughts on the Quarterfinals. 

@Boisestateand8

 Let’s call a spade a spade. You’ve been on a run of losing. Blame whatever reason for it. Bottom line is you lost your bankroll and are being responsible in stopping. 
I’d also suggest to stop betting meaningless bowl games between 18-22 year old kids that aren’t playoff games but you’re a grown man and you’ll do what you want.

This isn’t a nasty or arrogant post. This is just the harsh reality of what these people won’t tell you. They’ll all say “Thanks for your posts and happy holidays”, but it’s just kind words like “In my thoughts and prayers”.

Do some self reflecting and enjoy your Boise State Broncos! At the end of the day, the ONLY thing that matters is you STOPPED when you hit your spending limit. Kudos to you on that! Forget everything else! 

Everyone is Zigging one way. I’m going to Zag. 

I think the Clemson Texas game gets Over the total. Clemson essentially will not be able to run the ball on Texas and Klubnik will be throwing 40 plus times Saturday. 

Texas should be able to do what they like. I also think Manning gets red zone play and gives Clemson a different look. 

The weather is the only one where it’s in the 50’s. Texas gets at least 35 in this one. Texas is MAJORLY overrated or I’d take the spread. If Texas can’t run, Ewers is an average QB who can’t shoulder the load. I see this as a 35-27 type game. Clemson hitting 1-2 big play scores. 

Hello Mates:

Round 1: Love Notre Dame in this spot! Both teams play relatively non tempo on offense. Notre Dame dominates in the trenches. Indiana might score late like they did against Ohio State BUT I don’t see Notre Dame beating themselves. Strong dose of running game and ball control. 
Notre Dame to cover the 7.5.

If Penn State is the team that played against Oregon, then the hype is for real. Offensively they can go toe to toe with anyone in the country. I think the best play is Over 53.5 against an SMU team that can give up the big play. I also like Penn State over TT. SMU is going to be fighting up hill all day IF Penn State’s offense shows up like the Oregon game. I hope they do. 

Texas (who I think is completely overrated) rolls in this one. Clemson hits big plays and has no running game. Clemson then proceeds to get shut down in the second halves. I think Texas is too balanced, makes Clemson one dimensional and wins by about 17 in a game where they control from start to finish.

Is this the game where Ohio State uses their best position on the field and spread out the WR? I think this total is too low. Tennessee plays tempo, and even though they have had trouble scoring against very good defenses, they can find the end zone a few times at least. Ohio State needs to throw to set up the run. Egbuka and Smith need to go eat. If those guys can eat, Ohio State can beat anyone in the country. The problem is the coaches hold them back. Give me the Over 46.5 in a high scoring affair. 

Futures:

To me, the favorites (Oregon, Georgia, Texas) you can ML Rollover and get better value than a straight Futures play.

I like Arizona State +320 to make the Semifinals. I also like Boise State +270 to make the Semifinals and +1440 to make the Final.

Boise lost by 3 in Eugene. Boise has SMU or Penn State and if they get by, a Notre Dame or depleted Georgia team. Georgia is good BUT isn’t the same. I think it’s worth a flyer on Boise State.

Notre Dame +700 to win the Title has legs also. ND -1.5 Lookahead vs Georgia. ND can get to the Final and I can hedge depending on who is there.

Half a Unit on the Futures. Good luck to all. 

@Mskeets

 This post and this post specifically is WHY betting Bowl Games that aren’t meaningful are VERY difficult to gauge. This is NOT a knock on your parlay, etc. This is a post that simply states “knowing motivation, opt outs with the transfer portal, coaches leaving” make it incredibly difficult to follow and to potentially try (no guarantee) to hedge out for a small loss.

I know Train and Wahoo are very knowledgeable college football bettors. I wish everyone luck in here BUT just be wary of a line opening up one way and then all of the crazy movement in potentially another direction.

There are 11 games of playoffs. Those lines are sharper because there are fewer games but the meaning of those games has never been higher. 

Good luck to all of you in this Bowl Season. The Hoo Train will traditionally start their second thread of the Hoo Train soon. I will be tuning in once they talk playoffs. ?? 

@BiaSaigon

 Hey Bia. This bracket is a little off. Oregon and Ohio State would be a Quarterfinal matchup. 

Texas would play Oregon in a Semifinal potentially. Oregon has a TOUGH path with two talented teams possibly ahead of them.

Someone commented and I agree, that Georgia has a QB issue that we don’t know will be resolved by New Years Day. 

Boise State can make the title! Call me crazy. They lost to Oregon by 3. Boise gets the winner of SMU and Penn State. Neither of these teams showed me anything dominant. I’m just saying hold the horses. 

This year has NO CLEAR FAVORITE as I have pointed out. Georgia healthy would beat Texas AGAIN! I don’t know why everyone loves Texas. 

Every team has some type of weakness…

Texas, when not able to run the ball cannot depend on Ewers throwing the ball 35 plus times without a few turnovers.

Oregon is undefeated BUT got gashed by Ohio State and Penn State in its two biggest games. They will have to win in a shootout against most teams.

Georgia has been inconsistent and showed what it’s capable of in the SEC Title Game. It also has shown getting carved by GT and UMass. 

Ohio State has a terrible coach with the most talent on the field. Not to mention an average QB who makes critical mistakes. 

Boise State and Arizona State have a bye. I’m not saying they are going to win the title but how can one not like their odds via FanDuel?

+320 to make the semifinals

+1820 to make the Title Game. 

Both are run dominant teams who can play ball control. A little flyer on them on all 3 plays. Oregon SHOULD win it. Ohio State has the most talent. Georgia QB situation is unknown. Can we please stop with Texas? There’s no clear favorite in 2024. Should be a great playoff. 

I don’t post often here but this is a HUGE game for Big 10 Title Possibilities and a Top 4 spot in the CFP.

Ohio State -3.5 with a Total of 52.5

My favorite play on this game is the Under. We have two offenses who love to control the line of scrimmage by establishing the run. Both of these offenses to not run at high speed, pre snap tempo. 

Will Howard and Dillon Gabriel are turnover prone and are not the best QB’s we have seen at these schools in a while. I see efficient drives being the source of scores with quick strikes being limited. Ohio State has a LOT more big play potential as well. 

Defensively, these two units could be the best two on the field. Stopping the run and getting sacks on third down are key for both teams. 

I trust Will Howard more and I trust the skill position players of Ohio State that much more. Action Network has a potential of this being a CFP Game at a neutral site where Ohio State is favored by 6. Ohio State is the better team and I expect a hard fought contest for much of the game. College kickers can be inconsistent and we might get a lot of empty possessions due to that, Lanning’s bonehead gambles that he has had in the past, etc.

Id take Ohio State on the ML and the Under.

23-20 Buckeyes. 

Maybe I was wrong about stats but a Big W in the form of 71-0!

65-0 at the half. 

Maybe I was wrong about stats but not about outcome. Big W!

Alternate spread Tennessee -50.5 at +104. Tennessee is going to roll! Their backups didn’t play well against Chattanooga and I expect a better performance this time in the second half. The starters might go for 49 by halftime.

Kent State is horrific and just lost to FCS St Francis 23-17. 

Two Team Parlay

Tenn TT over 56.5 and Kent St TT Under 6.5 at +315 (200 to win 631).

Tennessee -50.5 (400 to win 416).

Nico continues the early Heisman stat padding. Throws for 300 and 3 TD in the first half. Vols will roll 63-3.

@HockeyNight11

 I think you are definitely the only person who thinks they got worse with a Senior transfer QB who almost beat Texas and had his team playing for a Conference Title and winning it two years ago. Then getting blown out by Bryce Young and Alabama.

In relation to Lanning, Oregon coaches find ways to lose BIG games. Oregon at home against Ohio State in October will tell you everything you need to know; when those coaches go against one another. 

Lanning has been aggressive against Washington in the last two years and lost. Especially 2022, that gift on fourth down. Lanning will learn from his mistakes and Oregon is going to roll this year. 

Ryan Day has lost a Natty and has been not been able to beat Michigan. When you had CJ Stroud, Wilson, Olave, Smith Njigba, Henderson in the backfield and NOT win a title, it is very hard to debate you about Day. It’s now or never for that loaded defense he has!

@The007

 First off, I did one last year around the midway point of the season on FanDuel. I went 5-2 and Round Robin’ed it in 2-6’s. I suggest you do that first and foremost so you get the most value and you don’t lose as much with wagers. If one of your teams loses, it’s essentially toast.

Second, I think identifying your knowledge of conferences and then applying who you think wins each conference is the way to go. You have way too many favorites for an early futures!

Liberty is the most likely team to run their conference and win it. 

I like to wait a 5-6 weeks and put one in mid season. You can gauge who the best teams are and map out a schedule. Best of luck!