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replied to The Dirty Pigeon Saturday (3-4, -$1602.5) in MLB Betting also.. -6.xx units View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	3	April 11, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon Saturday (3-4, -$1602.5) in MLB Betting Yesterday was yesterday, and over the course of a season, yesterdays will happen. On to today. I absolutely love a much bigger slate of games than usual today... Usually don't have as much at play as usual, and I won't lie... Yesterday may play into that a bit here, but I'm usually fairly decent at not letting my judgment be clouded when it comes to work. So here goes... Plays: Reds @-118 4U, Atl @-115 4U Best bets: OAK @ -123 8U, LAD @-200 6U Dog of the day: Astros @ +118 5U, TOR @ +103 5U View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	3	April 11, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon Friday 2-0 (+8 units/+$2000) in MLB Betting Taking a look at San Diego as well. Will post if I play... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	2	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon Friday 2-0 (+8 units/+$2000) in MLB Betting 2-0 overall 2-0 best bets nothing out there to really love for me today, but here are my leans: TOR (sheer value play as I have as dead pk), TEX, DET, CWS, COL, BOS, WASH, MIA, NYM, MIL, ARZ, KC, SEA, SD Plays today: MIL 2U@-128 TEX 2U@-109, COL 2U@-125, Best bets: WASH 6U@-146, Dog o' the day: SEA 4U@101 Good luck to All! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	2	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting Thanks, Mozart! didn't know you could link... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting I'll also clarify that I will be tracking units and cash daily. I have a very different units system, using between one and eight. My unit is $250, I do this because it is a microcosm of my bankroll lay out and usage. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting Not a bad start. I'll keep my tabulations up, but the likelihood of me playing anything tomorrow is low. Maybe I'll jump on something, but I don't see much. Nats, but the ML might put me out of play there. Overall: 2-0 Best Bets: 2-0 Underdog of the day --- View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting I don't do basketball, so I'm here now. Please read my whole two previous posts if you'd like any background on me. This is what I do. Off to a good start, (14-7) but can't do much other than copy and paste bet slips on here, and people still question. So starting fresh... NYY 07 (-115) $1150/1000 TOR -112 $1120/1000 most days I'll give my lean for an entire card, then give who I'll actually play. Usually, I'll track any game I'm actually recommending, my best bets, and my underdog play(s) of the day. BOL to all and let's see how we go here... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 09, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Popping my covers cherry! Chi 2h in NBA Betting a bit of a marginal wager, as I don't particularly care to lay 10 points in a half, but I believe Thibodeau is one of the better coaches at making 2h adjustments and they aren't going to get 59 hung on them this half. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	1	January 30, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Powerful words, FiatLux4. I agree with both of your statements, actually. But it's like the darkside... lol ... very difficult to stay away from. And best of luck to you as well. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 30, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting LMFAO! Good post ST2ee! Tough not to enjoy the smokes if you're balls deep in this rat race. As for the trees... Man, I have tried and tried and tried and tried to go to spreadsheets. I love having the ability to sort through the information, because I wind up having to sort it by hand... which truly sucks. But I always and without fail, struggle to keep up with my notes in the spreadsheet, and I also struggle to focus on my losses. Every damn time I try, I'll sit there and sift through the W's, and not do my due diligence on those ugly, nasty L pieces. So I'm stuck in the freaking 1700's over here. smdh. And I'm not even an old guy who has the legitimate excuse that they didn't grow up on computers, which makes it that much more shameful. I guess one thing I did neglect to mention is that I do not have a single password to a single site. The wifey holds the keys to the castle in that regard. This is a relatively new development (August, 2010) but simply put, A) I am absolutely a degenerate, despite the fact that this is my job... and B) It prevents me from compounding my losses. I, just like everyone else, will look at my opens, compare it to my daily/weekly losses, and want to pound down. And it'll generally come in the form of a 2H bet for the dogs**t team I have on the full game number. So I book my bets between 8-10 every morning and am forced to leave them be. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Clarification... I am playing the game because it is the Super Bowl. If there were 15 other games this weekend, I would either be dodging this game altogether or I would be playing small on maybe a two. teamer. I have gotten a couple PM's asking how confident I am, or asking how large they should play. To answer a question like that, I'd have to know a lot more about your betting than just "I'm down and need to go out with a bang" .... Confidence isn't super high, but I do feel I'm on the right side of the game. If this were a regular game, I'd probably have $400 on Sea ML and $200 on Sea ML/Under. That's a total of $600, which equates to roughly 10% of what I would do when max betting a game. So take it with a grain of salt, but yeah, I like the Seahawks. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting General Chaos, my pleasure. PGA, Thanks and we sure can talk. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Thanks for the input Mr Fixers and Good Luck!!! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting nba, by every excercise and measure I have done, is the most difficult for me to handicap. Of the sports I bet, NFL, NCAAF, NBA, NCAAB, MLB, TENNIS, SOCCER, I have consistently had the least success in NBA by both record and units won. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting excellent buddy! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting ok cool Smalltimeboy. baronman: Aww how sweet, my first hate troll. LMFAO, 6'4" 180 pounds of delicious. 32 years old, sexy wife, 4 beautiful kids. Just because your life sucks isn't any reason to try and bring everyone else down. My goodness, I hate awful human beings. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to SHE-HAWK backers, if you're so sure.... then why..... in NFL Betting That's an incredibly silly question/statement. Who in their right minds would bet a house/car on a coin flip game, or any game for that matter? Regardless of confidence in a game, that's just not something someone does my man. View Post \| View Thread	FastLove	32	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Thanks man, you too! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting Young man, I literally created an account for the first time tonight to tell ask you to please reconsider what you are doing. I've been a lurker on this site for more than two years. I do this for a living, like to provide for myself, my wife, and my four children. And even with all that on the line, I don't walk up to a ticket window and play a game for a grand all willy-nilly. That isn't how this stuff works man. And trust me, if you honestly think you are good enough at this to where you can make it your given profession, you're going to lose a whole whole whole whole whole lot more than $3000, especially if this is your maiden voyage, as it sounds. I have exactly one other post on here, so you can realize I'm not bs'ing you. That said, if you are serious, here is some advice... 1. Go buy yourself a dozen of the biggest spiral notebooks you can. 2. Write down everything. I mean freaking everything. The games you played, the final results, notes on the games, why you played them... Everything. I mean everything you can possibly think of to write down... Line movements, an injury you missed, how many road dogs you lose with, how many in-conference 10+ point CBB favorites you lose with, and everything else possible for you to think of and write down. And learn your own betting traps and trends. Take bigger note of your losers than your winners. 3. DVR and watch every possible game you can. If this is your job, you have to treat it as one, and the hours are endless. Worse than any other job in America. Take some of that money and buy subscriptions to All-22 footage in football, the conference sites that replay their basketball games, etc. 3A. Hedging doesn't make you a puddy, it makes you profitable. And every once in a while, you get a little bonus and catch both sides. 4. If you have a site that allows open bet parlays, open 15-20 of them as soon as possible. This is your built in equalizer if you're having a bad week. Just go pop a one-away open parlay. Lol, I usually fade myself if I've been particularly awful that week. 5. NEVER bet more than 10% of your active bankroll on any single event ever. 6. Get the bleacher report, team stream, rotoworld, and all the other apps and make every team your favorite team. The local guys know far more than anyone in the mainstream media about teams and every once in a while, you get information... Like half the team spent the night in a hospital, which actually happened this year. 7. Use sites like covers to understand as much about a game as you can. *The most important information in your education is learning why people bet a certain way. This helps you understand why lines are where they are. Also, from time to time, you can find a guy to tail/fade (which, yes, I check covers to fade more often than tail, not that it makes my decision, but if I like something and 4 donkeys on here love the other side, I like it more)... but once again, if you write down these picks and where you got them, you can see trends... Like person X hits at about 52%, but man they hit 62% on SEC games. stupid stuff like that. 8. Understand "value"... Your book loves him some juice. And, at times, you can find better value on a -145 moneyline than laying points. Again, value, because one of the very very very very tiny infinitesimal advantages you have over the book is exposure. You are fully exposed to whatever bet you make, while a bookie doesn't have that luxury. And sometimes he'll juice a ML away from a dog, or maybe he'll take a knee jerk reaction at half time (usually the 2H favorite is the game favorite and if a bookie set a line at 10, and the team is up 15, and he still sets a line as that team -3/-120 2H, then that bookie is essentially telling you that he was 8 points off on opening spread??? Nope) wager. 9. WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN!!!!!!! 10. Work hard at your job. There is no glamour in this profession. I am sitting in my underwear in my garage smoking what is probably my 50th cigarette today, watching film of Texas/TCU, and looking at the blowout quarters to see who replaces starters and how they performed. Because somewhere, a guy that is setting lines has an entire army of computers being run from one big brain center that is doing the exact same thing. And you have to work hard to find tiny little specks that somehow may help you win a buck or two somewhere down the line. Good luck! PM me if you would like to hear any more of my rubbish. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread

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replied to The Dirty Pigeon Saturday (3-4, -$1602.5) in MLB Betting also.. -6.xx units View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	3	April 11, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon Saturday (3-4, -$1602.5) in MLB Betting Yesterday was yesterday, and over the course of a season, yesterdays will happen. On to today. I absolutely love a much bigger slate of games than usual today... Usually don't have as much at play as usual, and I won't lie... Yesterday may play into that a bit here, but I'm usually fairly decent at not letting my judgment be clouded when it comes to work. So here goes... Plays: Reds @-118 4U, Atl @-115 4U Best bets: OAK @ -123 8U, LAD @-200 6U Dog of the day: Astros @ +118 5U, TOR @ +103 5U View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	3	April 11, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon Friday 2-0 (+8 units/+$2000) in MLB Betting Taking a look at San Diego as well. Will post if I play... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	2	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon Friday 2-0 (+8 units/+$2000) in MLB Betting 2-0 overall 2-0 best bets nothing out there to really love for me today, but here are my leans: TOR (sheer value play as I have as dead pk), TEX, DET, CWS, COL, BOS, WASH, MIA, NYM, MIL, ARZ, KC, SEA, SD Plays today: MIL 2U@-128 TEX 2U@-109, COL 2U@-125, Best bets: WASH 6U@-146, Dog o' the day: SEA 4U@101 Good luck to All! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	2	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting Thanks, Mozart! didn't know you could link... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting I'll also clarify that I will be tracking units and cash daily. I have a very different units system, using between one and eight. My unit is $250, I do this because it is a microcosm of my bankroll lay out and usage. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting Not a bad start. I'll keep my tabulations up, but the likelihood of me playing anything tomorrow is low. Maybe I'll jump on something, but I don't see much. Nats, but the ML might put me out of play there. Overall: 2-0 Best Bets: 2-0 Underdog of the day --- View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 10, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic The Dirty Pigeon, First baseball picks in MLB Betting I don't do basketball, so I'm here now. Please read my whole two previous posts if you'd like any background on me. This is what I do. Off to a good start, (14-7) but can't do much other than copy and paste bet slips on here, and people still question. So starting fresh... NYY 07 (-115) $1150/1000 TOR -112 $1120/1000 most days I'll give my lean for an entire card, then give who I'll actually play. Usually, I'll track any game I'm actually recommending, my best bets, and my underdog play(s) of the day. BOL to all and let's see how we go here... View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	5	April 09, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Popping my covers cherry! Chi 2h in NBA Betting a bit of a marginal wager, as I don't particularly care to lay 10 points in a half, but I believe Thibodeau is one of the better coaches at making 2h adjustments and they aren't going to get 59 hung on them this half. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	1	January 30, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Powerful words, FiatLux4. I agree with both of your statements, actually. But it's like the darkside... lol ... very difficult to stay away from. And best of luck to you as well. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 30, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting LMFAO! Good post ST2ee! Tough not to enjoy the smokes if you're balls deep in this rat race. As for the trees... Man, I have tried and tried and tried and tried to go to spreadsheets. I love having the ability to sort through the information, because I wind up having to sort it by hand... which truly sucks. But I always and without fail, struggle to keep up with my notes in the spreadsheet, and I also struggle to focus on my losses. Every damn time I try, I'll sit there and sift through the W's, and not do my due diligence on those ugly, nasty L pieces. So I'm stuck in the freaking 1700's over here. smdh. And I'm not even an old guy who has the legitimate excuse that they didn't grow up on computers, which makes it that much more shameful. I guess one thing I did neglect to mention is that I do not have a single password to a single site. The wifey holds the keys to the castle in that regard. This is a relatively new development (August, 2010) but simply put, A) I am absolutely a degenerate, despite the fact that this is my job... and B) It prevents me from compounding my losses. I, just like everyone else, will look at my opens, compare it to my daily/weekly losses, and want to pound down. And it'll generally come in the form of a 2H bet for the dogs**t team I have on the full game number. So I book my bets between 8-10 every morning and am forced to leave them be. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Clarification... I am playing the game because it is the Super Bowl. If there were 15 other games this weekend, I would either be dodging this game altogether or I would be playing small on maybe a two. teamer. I have gotten a couple PM's asking how confident I am, or asking how large they should play. To answer a question like that, I'd have to know a lot more about your betting than just "I'm down and need to go out with a bang" .... Confidence isn't super high, but I do feel I'm on the right side of the game. If this were a regular game, I'd probably have $400 on Sea ML and $200 on Sea ML/Under. That's a total of $600, which equates to roughly 10% of what I would do when max betting a game. So take it with a grain of salt, but yeah, I like the Seahawks. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting General Chaos, my pleasure. PGA, Thanks and we sure can talk. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Thanks for the input Mr Fixers and Good Luck!!! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting nba, by every excercise and measure I have done, is the most difficult for me to handicap. Of the sports I bet, NFL, NCAAF, NBA, NCAAB, MLB, TENNIS, SOCCER, I have consistently had the least success in NBA by both record and units won. View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting excellent buddy! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting ok cool Smalltimeboy. baronman: Aww how sweet, my first hate troll. LMFAO, 6'4" 180 pounds of delicious. 32 years old, sexy wife, 4 beautiful kids. Just because your life sucks isn't any reason to try and bring everyone else down. My goodness, I hate awful human beings. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to SHE-HAWK backers, if you're so sure.... then why..... in NFL Betting That's an incredibly silly question/statement. Who in their right minds would bet a house/car on a coin flip game, or any game for that matter? Regardless of confidence in a game, that's just not something someone does my man. View Post \| View Thread	FastLove	32	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Some pretty cool wins from the 2014 season in NFL Betting Thanks man, you too! View Post \| View Thread	thedirtypigeon	28	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread
replied to WITHDREW ALL MY SAVINGS and trying to be a pro in NBA Betting Young man, I literally created an account for the first time tonight to tell ask you to please reconsider what you are doing. I've been a lurker on this site for more than two years. I do this for a living, like to provide for myself, my wife, and my four children. And even with all that on the line, I don't walk up to a ticket window and play a game for a grand all willy-nilly. That isn't how this stuff works man. And trust me, if you honestly think you are good enough at this to where you can make it your given profession, you're going to lose a whole whole whole whole whole lot more than $3000, especially if this is your maiden voyage, as it sounds. I have exactly one other post on here, so you can realize I'm not bs'ing you. That said, if you are serious, here is some advice... 1. Go buy yourself a dozen of the biggest spiral notebooks you can. 2. Write down everything. I mean freaking everything. The games you played, the final results, notes on the games, why you played them... Everything. I mean everything you can possibly think of to write down... Line movements, an injury you missed, how many road dogs you lose with, how many in-conference 10+ point CBB favorites you lose with, and everything else possible for you to think of and write down. And learn your own betting traps and trends. Take bigger note of your losers than your winners. 3. DVR and watch every possible game you can. If this is your job, you have to treat it as one, and the hours are endless. Worse than any other job in America. Take some of that money and buy subscriptions to All-22 footage in football, the conference sites that replay their basketball games, etc. 3A. Hedging doesn't make you a puddy, it makes you profitable. And every once in a while, you get a little bonus and catch both sides. 4. If you have a site that allows open bet parlays, open 15-20 of them as soon as possible. This is your built in equalizer if you're having a bad week. Just go pop a one-away open parlay. Lol, I usually fade myself if I've been particularly awful that week. 5. NEVER bet more than 10% of your active bankroll on any single event ever. 6. Get the bleacher report, team stream, rotoworld, and all the other apps and make every team your favorite team. The local guys know far more than anyone in the mainstream media about teams and every once in a while, you get information... Like half the team spent the night in a hospital, which actually happened this year. 7. Use sites like covers to understand as much about a game as you can. *The most important information in your education is learning why people bet a certain way. This helps you understand why lines are where they are. Also, from time to time, you can find a guy to tail/fade (which, yes, I check covers to fade more often than tail, not that it makes my decision, but if I like something and 4 donkeys on here love the other side, I like it more)... but once again, if you write down these picks and where you got them, you can see trends... Like person X hits at about 52%, but man they hit 62% on SEC games. stupid stuff like that. 8. Understand "value"... Your book loves him some juice. And, at times, you can find better value on a -145 moneyline than laying points. Again, value, because one of the very very very very tiny infinitesimal advantages you have over the book is exposure. You are fully exposed to whatever bet you make, while a bookie doesn't have that luxury. And sometimes he'll juice a ML away from a dog, or maybe he'll take a knee jerk reaction at half time (usually the 2H favorite is the game favorite and if a bookie set a line at 10, and the team is up 15, and he still sets a line as that team -3/-120 2H, then that bookie is essentially telling you that he was 8 points off on opening spread??? Nope) wager. 9. WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN!!!!!!! 10. Work hard at your job. There is no glamour in this profession. I am sitting in my underwear in my garage smoking what is probably my 50th cigarette today, watching film of Texas/TCU, and looking at the blowout quarters to see who replaces starters and how they performed. Because somewhere, a guy that is setting lines has an entire army of computers being run from one big brain center that is doing the exact same thing. And you have to work hard to find tiny little specks that somehow may help you win a buck or two somewhere down the line. Good luck! PM me if you would like to hear any more of my rubbish. View Post \| View Thread	Smalltimeboy	148	January 29, 2015 View Post \| View Thread

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